Zone1 Have we lost The Bible Story?

[ding]

Neither of us can see the impossibilities of stories such as the 'big fish' story, expressly because it's a fringe belief.

I don't believe you can see anything. I think you are deaf, dumb and blind.

 

[ding]

i might add something further after reading Meri's reply.

I can hardly wait for your "intellectual" thoughts.

 

[kjw47]

Most won't repent until the resurrection.

Acts 3:19--Repent and turn around to get sins blotted out)))= true repentance = stopping doing the sin.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

What does evolution have to do with how we treat strangers, give to the poor, or our relationship with God?

Every bit of existence has evolved and is evolving. The God of Abraham evolved in human minds on the evolutionary process of survival of the fittest as far as war gods go.

Monotheism tends to be more fit than polytheism. However, we are not done evolving.

The white Christianity that has voted regressive Republicanism the past eight years is not fit for successful evolution in my view. The rest of Christianity will succeed as it escapes from the problem it has with white grievance as America’s white dominated melting pot becomes the colors of a rainbow.

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i. What's wrong with Christianity 210811 {post•6}. ding Aug’21 wwwcz: Christianity gave us America. Aug 11, 2021. dvng 210811 Swwwcz00006

ii. Evolution of Rational Theism beyond Christianity gave us America. 241007 {post•1}. NotfooledbyW Oct’24 Veortb: What Christianity as practiced today by supporters of Don Trump is morally, spiritually, and civically antithetical to the solid American principle of Civil Religion and freedom of conscience.

The idea that Christianity had something to do with the founding of America is a unfounded,

Saint Ding is afoul of the truth in paragraph i.

iii. A little history about the evolution of Christianity itself; excepts from “The Evolution of God” by Robert Wright

TEofG pg 288: It didn’t take Christians long to start annoying people as early as 64 CE, before all the books of the New Testament had been written, the Emperor Nero was having followers of Jesus smeared with pitch, put on crosses and set on fire. The thrifty persecutor, Nero (according to the Roman historian Tacitus), used the flaming bodies to serve as lights when daylight failed. The emperor’s immediate aim was to make Christian scapegoats, to blame them for a devastating fire that some people were blaming on him. But there was a less informal source of tension between the Christians and Roman rulers. Christians didn’t fit the Roman model of religion.

The Roman government let people worship whatever God they chose so long as they also paid homage to the official guards of the Empire. Christians refused to worship state gods, and they couldn’t honestly grant legitimacy to the various other gods people worshiped, either. In fact, they actively challenged that legitimacy because Christians weren’t just monotheistic; they were monotheists prone to proselytizing. .

The proselytizing outweighed the persecution, and Christianity grew until, in 312, it crossed its famous threshold: Emperor Constantine, inspired by a vision, decided to fight a crucial battle under the symbol of the cross. The ensuing victory elevated Jesus in his esteem and helped usher in an error of official tolerance for Christianity. By the end of the fourth century, Christianity was the official religion of the empire, and pagan religions were banned.

iv. Evolution of Rational Theism beyond Christianity gave us America. 241007 {post•1}. NotfooledbyW Oct’24 Veortb: It is not even remotely possible to believe America was created by any organized religion, including white protestant Christianity just before the turn of the 19th century.?

That one thing Saint Ding says above is part of one of the greatest and longest sustained lies in human history. nfbw 241007 Verotb00001

 

[Woodznutz]

There are no contradictions in I.C. That's been dealt with and set aside.

The B.F. was reduced to it's simplest form by mainstream science.

B.F. ?

 

[Woodznutz]

Acts 3:19--Repent and turn around to get sins blotted out)))= true repentance = stopping doing the sin.

Many unbelievers repent.

14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another.

 

[Woodznutz]

Those who have found peace with their religious beliefs won't be seen or heard arguing it here. This is a place for Christians to ask some of the nagging questions, and for atheists like me to offer answers.

It's a place for discussing religious beliefs and arguing over differences.

 

[Woodznutz]

There are no contradictions in I.C. That's been dealt with and set aside.

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I've been known to reject truths that I don't agree with as well.

 

[Donald H]

B.F. ?

If you don''t know then I'm wasting my time with you.

 

[ding]

This is a place for Christians to ask some of the nagging questions, and for atheists like me to offer answers.

Does evil exist?

 

[Meriweather]

Jesus ministry to the Jews was a failure. While some believed on him most didn't and wanted him dead. He left Jewry because of that and went on to his primary ministry, the lost sheep. He also instructed the disciples to go only to the lost sheep. He built his church among them as one can see today. The history of the church is in northwest Europe among the descendants of the northern kingdom, and later wherever those people migrated, not in Judea among the Jews. Few Jews today believe in the divinity of Christ.

I see it quite differently.

 

[Meriweather]

The others didn't know what the 'qualification' was that permits Catholics to accept and believe in Darwinian evolution, but I'm quite sure both you and Ding did. Why the reluctance to state it?

What you label "reluctance" is lack of interest in the feeble attempt to drag science under the umbrella of philosophy and faith. It would be more meaningful for you to ask what the 'qualification' was that permits Catholics to enjoy a chocolate chip cookie.

 

[kjw47]

Many unbelievers repent.

14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another.

Yes even those who God view as wicked repent of some things as well, but fail in Obeying Jesus. There is only the righteous and the wicked in Gods view of who is who on Earth. And his view differs greatly from mans view. Even Jesus warned the Laodiceans--If they are sitting on the fence( perse) he will vomit them out.

 

[Woodznutz]

If you don''t know then I'm wasting my time with you.

Which one is it?

The BF meaning in Science terms is "Beyond Freedom". There are 13 related meanings of the BF Science abbreviation.

1. Beyond Freedom
2. Benjamin Franklin
3. Befactor
4. Beaufort
5. Basic Function
6. Bone Fragment
7. Body Fluids
8. Bomb Factory
9. Breiten Lohner-Freedman
10. B Factor
11. Basal Forebrain
12. Bacteroides Fragilis
13. Bachelor of Fisheries

 

[Woodznutz]

I see it quite differently.

I see it Biblically.

 

[SweetSue92]

Sue, do you not understand that alang1216 is not a believer?

Of course, and you're trying to convince him to believe with non-Biblical lies.

 

[SweetSue92]

Pride: Not agreeing with SweetSue92.

Not agreeing with God's Word

 

[SweetSue92]

Jesus ministry to the Jews was a failure. While some believed on him most didn't and wanted him dead. He left Jewry because of that and went on to his primary ministry, the lost sheep. He also instructed the disciples to go only to the lost sheep. He built his church among them as one can see today. The history of the church is in northwest Europe among the descendants of the northern kingdom, and later wherever those people migrated, not in Judea among the Jews. Few Jews today believe in the divinity of Christ.

Ah, cute. Those dirty Jews and dark people.....but the whites man, the best Christians around.

I wish I could tell you that people using the Bible to justify all kinds of repulsive worldviews is NEW but, it's not.

Go your way. I understand, but in no way endorse. Sandals, dust, moving on

 

[BreezeWood]

I wish I could tell you that people using the Bible to justify all kinds of repulsive worldviews is NEW but, it's not.

well, that's the reason the 4th century crucifiers wrote the christian bible in their beginning for the purpose to use their victims, jesus for their own purposes to promote their own religion of servitude and denial ... the very act itself, crucifixion to silence the lamb.

 

[Meriweather]

I see it Biblically.

What you wrote is not seeing Biblically, but from a personal perspective based on proof-texting fragments of the Bible. We all have to be careful of personal perspectives which use .001 of the Bible and pass over the other 99.999 percent.