Zone1 Have we lost The Bible Story?

[Woodznutz]

Judaism was never destroyed, is a living faith, and is producing fruit. Think! If Judaism died in 70 A.D., we would not be discussing its current existence today, two thousand years later.

A "living faith" in the Law, which was changed on the cross.

 

[Meriweather]

A "living faith" in the Law, which was changed on the cross.

Fulfilled, not changed.

 

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oh, the hereditary idolatry of abraham the apartheist, the liar moses and their false commandments et al - gentiles as a reference ...

the current megalomaniacs of the middleast ...

- the lack of goodness is what blinds many people.

What good has YOUR religion done?

 

[BreezeWood]

Judaism was never destroyed

Fulfilled, not changed.

only the deranged believe judaism will ever be fulfilled ...

the first century is the repudiation of judaism - the only fulfillment is the outcome the crucifiers feel for their crime they yet have been brought to justice for. a sin sustained by christianity.

 

[Arlette]

All the popular Bible stories are ridiculous. Laughable

 

[Woodznutz]

Fulfilled, not changed.

So, Paul was wrong? Hebrews 7.

 

[Meriweather]

So, Paul was wrong? Hebrews 7.

Was Jesus? He said he came to fulfill the law, not change/abolish it.

 

[Woodznutz]

Was Jesus? He said he came to fulfill the law, not change/abolish it.

The Law is bound up in the old covenant. It did not cross over into the new covenant. "Love your neighbor as yourself" is the new covenant law.

 

[Meriweather]

The Law is bound up in the old covenant. It did not cross over into the new covenant. "Love your neighbor as yourself" is the new covenant law.

More to it than that. First we are to love God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength. Both parts Jesus took straight out of Old Testament/Old Covenant scripture.

 

[Woodznutz]

More to it than that. First we are to love God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength. Both parts Jesus took straight out of Old Testament/Old Covenant scripture.

Loving yourself, and loving your neighbor equally is the evidence that you love God. So, the operative law is loving your neighbor as you love yourself. The first commandment is rarely mentioned while the entire New Testament focuses on the second.

Matthew 22:
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

1John 4:
20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
21 And this commandment have we from him, that he who loveth God love his brother also.

 

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Loving yourself, and loving your neighbor equally is the evidence that you love God.

Not everyone loves themselves so much, so wouldn't that be a low bar?

 

[ding]

The Law is bound up in the old covenant. It did not cross over into the new covenant. "Love your neighbor as yourself" is the new covenant law.

Maybe you didn't understand the old covenant. All laws are founded on loving your neighbor as you would yourself. As for your tiresome letter of the law, legal positivism mentality that's a product of you worshiping a book instead of God.

 

[Woodznutz]

Maybe you didn't understand the old covenant. All laws are founded on loving your neighbor as you would yourself. As for your tiresome letter of the law, legal positivism mentality that's a product of you worshiping a book instead of God.

I think you are confused. This comment must be meant for someone else.

 

[Woodznutz]

Not everyone loves themselves so much, so wouldn't that be a low bar?

The biggest problem that humanity faces is lack of self-love and respect. We cannot love either God or neighbor if we don't love ourselves.

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The biggest problem that humanity faces is lack of self-love and respect. We cannot love either God or neighbor if we don't love ourselves.

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I see it the other way around.

 

[Woodznutz]

I see it the other way around.

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People love themselves too much.

 

[BreezeWood]

We cannot love either God or neighbor if we don't love ourselves.

there is no equivalency for any of the three above particularly for the desert religions of servitude and denial - where is there any love at all as seen throughout recorded history for those religions of despair.