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GOP Senate Filibusters Debt Ceiling Bill...Shutdown Looms

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McConnell has said how important it is to pass this...and blocks it's passage.

These GOP freaks need to be voted OUT

They are two separate issues the dems are boot strapping together. The debt ceiling does not have to be raised to fund the government. They can avoid the shutdown by passing a budget without raising the debt ceiling (that isn't even reached for several more months). The dems are trying to force the increase in debt so they can do another reconciliation end run on their $3.5T infrastructure bill. The dems are the ones who are being reckless by trying to extort an unnecessary debt ceiling increase out of a budget bill.
 

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Republican have always been big on shutting down the government. What else is new?

List of All Government Shutdowns and Their Duration​


This list of government shutdowns in the past was drawn from Congressional Research Service reports:
  • 2018-2019 (President Donald Trump): December 22, 2018 to January 25, 2019 - 34 days
  • 2018 (President Donald Trump): January 20 to January 23 - 3 days
  • 2018 (President Donald Trump): February 9 – 1 day.
  • 2013 (President Barack Obama): October 1 to October. 17 - 16 days
  • 1995-1996 (President Bill Clinton): December 16, 1995, to January 6, 1996, - 21 days
  • 1995 (President Bill Clinton): Nov. 14 to 19 - 5 days
  • 1990 (President George H.W. Bush): October 5 to 9 - 3 days
  • 1987 (President Ronald Reagan): December 18 to December 20 - 1 day
  • 1986 (President Ronald Reagan): October 16 to October 18 - 1 day
  • 1984 (President Ronald Reagan): October 3 to October 5 - 1 day
  • 1984 (President Ronald Reagan): September 30 to October 3 - 2 days
  • 1983 (President Ronald Reagan): November 10 to November 14 - 3 days
  • 1982 (President Ronald Reagan): December 17 to December 21 - 3 days
  • 1982 (President Ronald Reagan): September 30 to October 2 - 1 day
  • 1981 (President Ronald Reagan): November 20 to November 23 - 2 days
  • 1979 (President Jimmy Carter): September 30 to October 12 - 11 days
  • 1978 (President Jimmy Carter): September 30 to October 18 18 days
  • 1977 (President Jimmy Carter): November 30 to December 9 - 8 days
  • 1977 (President Jimmy Carter): October 31 to November 9 - 8 days
  • 1977 (President Jimmy Carter): September 30 to October 13 - 12 days
  • 1976 (President Gerald Ford): September 30 to October 11 - 10 days
We need to do something. Spending is out of control
 

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MAYBE...Republicans shouldn't play policitcs and do what they KNOW needs to be done

Which is allow this vote and pass it
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We need to do something. Spending is out of control
Don't worry Azog. Spending only becomes important when a Democrat is in office. The Republicans will shut it down for no telling how long, and then they will come to agreement. Just be glad you don't have government contracts, a government job, not in the military, border patrol, not dependent on air traffic controllers, meat inspectors, don't go to national parks, transportation inspectors, don't eat fresh fruit and vegetables from out of state, that sort of thing. It will work out like it always does.
 

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Don't worry Azog. Spending only becomes important when a Democrat is in office. The Republicans will shut it down for no telling how long, and then they will come to agreement. Just be glad you don't have government contracts, a government job, not in the military, border patrol, not dependent on air traffic controllers, meat inspectors, don't go to national parks, transportation inspectors, don't eat fresh fruit and vegetables from out of state, that sort of thing. It will work out like it always does.
A little pain may be necessary
 

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Don't worry Azog. Spending only becomes important when a Democrat is in office. The Republicans will shut it down for no telling how long, and then they will come to agreement. Just be glad you don't have government contracts, a government job, not in the military, border patrol, not dependent on air traffic controllers, meat inspectors, don't go to national parks, transportation inspectors, don't eat fresh fruit and vegetables from out of state, that sort of thing. It will work out like it always does.
how droll...

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Republican have always been big on shutting down the government. What else is new?

List of All Government Shutdowns and Their Duration​


This list of government shutdowns in the past was drawn from Congressional Research Service reports:
  • 2018-2019 (President Donald Trump): December 22, 2018 to January 25, 2019 - 34 days
  • 2018 (President Donald Trump): January 20 to January 23 - 3 days
  • 2018 (President Donald Trump): February 9 – 1 day.
  • 2013 (President Barack Obama): October 1 to October. 17 - 16 days
  • 1995-1996 (President Bill Clinton): December 16, 1995, to January 6, 1996, - 21 days
  • 1995 (President Bill Clinton): Nov. 14 to 19 - 5 days
  • 1990 (President George H.W. Bush): October 5 to 9 - 3 days
  • 1987 (President Ronald Reagan): December 18 to December 20 - 1 day
  • 1986 (President Ronald Reagan): October 16 to October 18 - 1 day
  • 1984 (President Ronald Reagan): October 3 to October 5 - 1 day
  • 1984 (President Ronald Reagan): September 30 to October 3 - 2 days
  • 1983 (President Ronald Reagan): November 10 to November 14 - 3 days
  • 1982 (President Ronald Reagan): December 17 to December 21 - 3 days
  • 1982 (President Ronald Reagan): September 30 to October 2 - 1 day
  • 1981 (President Ronald Reagan): November 20 to November 23 - 2 days
  • 1979 (President Jimmy Carter): September 30 to October 12 - 11 days
  • 1978 (President Jimmy Carter): September 30 to October 18 18 days
  • 1977 (President Jimmy Carter): November 30 to December 9 - 8 days
  • 1977 (President Jimmy Carter): October 31 to November 9 - 8 days
  • 1977 (President Jimmy Carter): September 30 to October 13 - 12 days
  • 1976 (President Gerald Ford): September 30 to October 11 - 10 days
Piglosi ran the House during all of the shutdowns under Trump.

Reagan never had a Republican Congress.

Thanks for the link showing Dims shut down the gover me the.
 

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I agree. The FF wanted the states to have the power along with a SMALL federal Government. We can all see how that worked out.
 

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Good 'ole Mitch has decided he wants the United States to default on its debt.

Yesterday it was "the Democrats need to do this themselves, we will not help.

Today they actually blocked the funding bill which is something completely different. Not unexpected, mind you, but different.


This may finally persuade the holdouts to dump the filibuster. It's time to change the rules and get some shit done.



 

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Such is the reprehensible, partisan right: party before country.
 

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Good 'ole Mitch has decided he wants the United States to default on its debt.

Yesterday it was "the Democrats need to do this themselves, we will not help.

Today they actually blocked the funding bill which is something completely different. Not unexpected, mind you, but different.


This may finally persuade the holdouts to dump the filibuster. It's time to change the rules and get some shit done.



It'll happen, at the last hour, like it always does. Neither side is going to let the country default. McConnell will eventually cave, and you'll have your victory. Then you'll be able to pass the 3.5 trillion spending bill using reconciliation, and have another victory.

Prepare to rub it in the faces of every republican, you'll have it all very soon.

I wouldn't get worked up over it.
 

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This may finally persuade the holdouts to dump the filibuster. It's time to change the rules and get some shit done.
I doubt Manchin or Sinema will take action that they understand will break this nation apart, possibly violently. Passing HR1 will effectively create a single-party country, and it will lead to war on some level. Packing SCOTUS and using a politicized court to ram through massive 2A restrictions would set the country on fire as well.

The Ds will blink on this unless THEY want the default. They cannot deny the truth of what the Turtle is saying. They control both houses of Congress AND the White House. It's on THEM and they better choose carefully because there is no way they can obfuscate the rest of the country just because their voters are so easy to convince. This is a purely political issue because Nancy and Chuck are too gutless to risk the repercussions that are GUARANTEED from this kind of insane money creation. They are going to do their best to blame others when their 3.5 $T crashes and burns but they'll have to accept that even THEY aren't willing to collapse the global economy without having a certain way to spread the blame.
 

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Good 'ole Mitch has decided he wants the United States to default on its debt.

Yesterday it was "the Democrats need to do this themselves, we will not help.

Today they actually blocked the funding bill which is something completely different. Not unexpected, mind you, but different.


This may finally persuade the holdouts to dump the filibuster. It's time to change the rules and get some shit done.

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