God created evil for his pleasure. Do you recognize the pleasure of creating and doing evil?

[ding]

Of all the things that God created and made, for His pleasure, according to the Bible, death and evil are not once to be named among them.

If god didn't create death how did he provide garments for Adam?

God killed animals ( his own creation)in early genesis

God created heaven for us. If not for Adam's sin, then we'd be in heaven now. One doesn't have death in heaven do they?

Thus, you are missing some things in regards to knowledge of the Bible or you have been misled.

That doesn’t make any sense that God would punish everyone for the mistake of two people.

It makes more sense that ancient man understood that man’s pride and selfishness prevents him from being what he was intended to be. And this allegorical account was how he passed down that knowledge to future generations. Man is different from God’s other creatures because only man has knowledge of good and evil. No other animal perceives things as good and evil.

 

[Newtonian]

IS God to blame for the wars fought by humankind? “No, God does not want war

It seems God wanted and did wage war in the OT. We are supposed to have a war of good vs evil and Jesus vs Satan during end times. To answer your question, God does wage war in order to save the innocent even though he may not want war. There is no question God has killed more people than Satan, but Satan wants to kill as many souls as possible and send them to the Lake of Fire in the afterlife. That's where he wants to be like God.

Yes, under the law of Moses - but Jesus changed that - and we follow Jesus:

Matthew 5:43, 44 (KJV)
Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Niemoller admitted Christendom is largely to blame for the wars in its history and God is not to blame.

In pre-Christian Jewish history God-ordained wars were actually executions since if any Jews practiced what Canaanites practiced those Jews would have been executed within Israel. But Jesus did not authorize his followers to execute anyone for anything. The governments of this world do have that right though - see Romans 13:1-5 but compare Romans 12:17 which comes just before.

See this another thing I really cant comprehend, jesus said in the gospel he didnt come to condemn the law of Moses but rather fulfill it

Sometimes I think the 13 letters of paul is a hack in the NT

Jesus fulfilled the law by obeying it perfectly. As a result, he deserved eternal life and could thus ransom us which imperfect humans could not do - as foretold of the Messiah in Isaiah 53:10,12 and Daniel 9:24-27.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Of all the things that God created and made, for His pleasure, according to the Bible, death and evil are not once to be named among them.

If god didn't create death how did he provide garments for Adam?

God killed animals ( his own creation)in early genesis

God created heaven for us. If not for Adam's sin, then we'd be in heaven now. One doesn't have death in heaven do they?

Thus, you are missing some things in regards to knowledge of the Bible or you have been misled.

That doesn’t make any sense that God would punish everyone for the mistake of two people.

It makes more sense that ancient man understood that man’s pride and selfishness prevents him from being what he was intended to be. And this allegorical account was how he passed down that knowledge to future generations. Man is different from God’s other creatures because only man has knowledge of good and evil. No other animal perceives things as good and evil.

The entire world is the descendants of two people, science even backs this up every one in the world is related.

So yes we suffer the sins of just two people.

 

[Newtonian]

Of all the things that God created and made, for His pleasure, according to the Bible, death and evil are not once to be named among them.

If god didn't create death how did he provide garments for Adam?

God killed animals ( his own creation)in early genesis

God created heaven for us. If not for Adam's sin, then we'd be in heaven now. One doesn't have death in heaven do they?

Thus, you are missing some things in regards to knowledge of the Bible or you have been misled.

That doesn’t make any sense that God would punish everyone for the mistake of two people.

It makes more sense that ancient man understood that man’s pride and selfishness prevents him from being what he was intended to be. And this allegorical account was how he passed down that knowledge to future generations. Man is different from God’s other creatures because only man has knowledge of good and evil. No other animal perceives things as good and evil.

Consider Romans 5:12 scientifically. We inherit, by our imperfect DNA, both sin and death from Adam and Eve because they had no children before they sinned and their DNA became imperfect.

Man was created to live a certain way - much like a perfect car would still need to be operated according to the owner's manual. A perfect car will die if one does not add oil - for one example. Adam and Eve's DNA was damaged due to living opposite to what their created them for.

A specific example:

Our DNA has DNA repair mechanisms - these could have a perfect program that would eternally repair any cause for degeneration of the DNA - but it no longer has a perfect program for this and therefore we die.

 

[Newtonian]

T

Of all the things that God created and made, for His pleasure, according to the Bible, death and evil are not once to be named among them.

If god didn't create death how did he provide garments for Adam?

God killed animals ( his own creation)in early genesis

God created heaven for us. If not for Adam's sin, then we'd be in heaven now. One doesn't have death in heaven do they?

Thus, you are missing some things in regards to knowledge of the Bible or you have been misled.

That doesn’t make any sense that God would punish everyone for the mistake of two people.

It makes more sense that ancient man understood that man’s pride and selfishness prevents him from being what he was intended to be. And this allegorical account was how he passed down that knowledge to future generations. Man is different from God’s other creatures because only man has knowledge of good and evil. No other animal perceives things as good and evil.

The entire world is the descendants of two people, science even backs this up every one in the world is related.

So yes we suffer the sins of just two people.

True - e.g. the mitochondrial Eve and the Y-chromosomal Adam.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Of all the things that God created and made, for His pleasure, according to the Bible, death and evil are not once to be named among them.

If god didn't create death how did he provide garments for Adam?

God killed animals ( his own creation)in early genesis

God created heaven for us. If not for Adam's sin, then we'd be in heaven now. One doesn't have death in heaven do they?

Thus, you are missing some things in regards to knowledge of the Bible or you have been misled.

That doesn’t make any sense that God would punish everyone for the mistake of two people.

It makes more sense that ancient man understood that man’s pride and selfishness prevents him from being what he was intended to be. And this allegorical account was how he passed down that knowledge to future generations. Man is different from God’s other creatures because only man has knowledge of good and evil. No other animal perceives things as good and evil.

I would have to disagree on the statement no animal perceives things as good and evil...

We seen elephants, dogs, whales, dolphins perceive good and evil, by helping one another, I remember a few months ago reading about a a whale helping a diver from a great white shark by keeping him close to her.

 

[Newtonian]

Of all the things that God created and made, for His pleasure, according to the Bible, death and evil are not once to be named among them.

If god didn't create death how did he provide garments for Adam?

God killed animals ( his own creation)in early genesis

God created heaven for us. If not for Adam's sin, then we'd be in heaven now. One doesn't have death in heaven do they?

Thus, you are missing some things in regards to knowledge of the Bible or you have been misled.

Actually, if Adam and Eve had not sinned, they would eventually have been permitted to eat from the tree of life and would therefore have had eternal life on a paradise earth - see Psalms 37:29

Flesh and blood bodies were not created to live in heaven - see 1 Corinthians 15:50.

 

[Newtonian]

Of all the things that God created and made, for His pleasure, according to the Bible, death and evil are not once to be named among them.

If god didn't create death how did he provide garments for Adam?

God killed animals ( his own creation)in early genesis

God created heaven for us. If not for Adam's sin, then we'd be in heaven now. One doesn't have death in heaven do they?

Thus, you are missing some things in regards to knowledge of the Bible or you have been misled.

That doesn’t make any sense that God would punish everyone for the mistake of two people.

It makes more sense that ancient man understood that man’s pride and selfishness prevents him from being what he was intended to be. And this allegorical account was how he passed down that knowledge to future generations. Man is different from God’s other creatures because only man has knowledge of good and evil. No other animal perceives things as good and evil.

I would have to disagree on the statement no animal perceives things as good and evil...

We seen elephants, dogs, whales, dolphins perceive good and evil, by helping one another, I remember a few months ago reading about a a whale helping a diver from a great white shark by keeping him close to her.

A more accurate statement would be that no animal worships according to any religion.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Of all the things that God created and made, for His pleasure, according to the Bible, death and evil are not once to be named among them.

If god didn't create death how did he provide garments for Adam?

God killed animals ( his own creation)in early genesis

God created heaven for us. If not for Adam's sin, then we'd be in heaven now. One doesn't have death in heaven do they?

Thus, you are missing some things in regards to knowledge of the Bible or you have been misled.

Actually, if Adam and Eve had not sinned, they would eventually have been permitted to eat from the tree of life and would therefore have had eternal life on a paradise earth - see Psalms 37:29

Flesh and blood bodies were not created to live in heaven - see 1 Corinthians 15:50.

Wow thanks for pointing that out, so paul once again goes against luke in 17:21 saying the kingdom of god is in your mist?

1 Corinthians 15:50-58 New International Version (NIV)
50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God,

 

[Wyatt earp]

Of all the things that God created and made, for His pleasure, according to the Bible, death and evil are not once to be named among them.

If god didn't create death how did he provide garments for Adam?

God killed animals ( his own creation)in early genesis

God created heaven for us. If not for Adam's sin, then we'd be in heaven now. One doesn't have death in heaven do they?

Thus, you are missing some things in regards to knowledge of the Bible or you have been misled.

That doesn’t make any sense that God would punish everyone for the mistake of two people.

It makes more sense that ancient man understood that man’s pride and selfishness prevents him from being what he was intended to be. And this allegorical account was how he passed down that knowledge to future generations. Man is different from God’s other creatures because only man has knowledge of good and evil. No other animal perceives things as good and evil.

I would have to disagree on the statement no animal perceives things as good and evil...

We seen elephants, dogs, whales, dolphins perceive good and evil, by helping one another, I remember a few months ago reading about a a whale helping a diver from a great white shark by keeping him close to her.

A more accurate statement would be that no animal worships according to any religion.

I disagree look at ants and Bees ( for that of us that is old enough had those plastic ant colonies ) they worship and work for the queen

 

[Newtonian]

Of all the things that God created and made, for His pleasure, according to the Bible, death and evil are not once to be named among them.

If god didn't create death how did he provide garments for Adam?

God killed animals ( his own creation)in early genesis

God created heaven for us. If not for Adam's sin, then we'd be in heaven now. One doesn't have death in heaven do they?

Thus, you are missing some things in regards to knowledge of the Bible or you have been misled.

Actually, if Adam and Eve had not sinned, they would eventually have been permitted to eat from the tree of life and would therefore have had eternal life on a paradise earth - see Psalms 37:29

Flesh and blood bodies were not created to live in heaven - see 1 Corinthians 15:50.

Wow thanks for pointing that out, so paul once again goes against luke in 17:21 saying the kingdom of god is in your mist?

1 Corinthians 15:50-58 New International Version (NIV)
50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God,

Luke 17:21 is only in harmony with the rest of the Bible if it is translated that way. When I was Lutheran they taught that the kingdom of God was within them - in their hearts. But Jesus was talking to the pharisees whose hearts were corrupt.

The verse simply means that Jesus was in their midst (among them) and that since Jesus was anointed to be King of God's kingdom, he represented the kingdom of God. As in the English prefix of the word kingdom.

As in Jesus' model prayer (Lord's prayer aka the 'our Father') in Matthew 6:9,10 when God's kingdom comes God's will is to be done on earth just as in heaven. As in the suffix of the word 'kingdom' wherein the domain and dominion of the King (Jesus) will include both heaven and earth.

Matthew 5:5 quoting Psalms 37:10,11,29 - the meek shall inherit the earth.

 

[Newtonian]

Of all the things that God created and made, for His pleasure, according to the Bible, death and evil are not once to be named among them.

If god didn't create death how did he provide garments for Adam?

God killed animals ( his own creation)in early genesis

God created heaven for us. If not for Adam's sin, then we'd be in heaven now. One doesn't have death in heaven do they?

Thus, you are missing some things in regards to knowledge of the Bible or you have been misled.

That doesn’t make any sense that God would punish everyone for the mistake of two people.

It makes more sense that ancient man understood that man’s pride and selfishness prevents him from being what he was intended to be. And this allegorical account was how he passed down that knowledge to future generations. Man is different from God’s other creatures because only man has knowledge of good and evil. No other animal perceives things as good and evil.

I would have to disagree on the statement no animal perceives things as good and evil...

We seen elephants, dogs, whales, dolphins perceive good and evil, by helping one another, I remember a few months ago reading about a a whale helping a diver from a great white shark by keeping him close to her.

A more accurate statement would be that no animal worships according to any religion.

I disagree look at ants and Bees ( for that of us that is old enough had those plastic ant colonies ) they worship and work for the queen

Yes, many animals still have instinctive wisdom from God - concerning ants:

Proverbs 6:6
Go to the ant, you lazy one;+
Observe its ways and become wise.

However, Ants do not pray to Jehovah.

Some aunts do though!

 

[Wyatt earp]

Of all the things that God created and made, for His pleasure, according to the Bible, death and evil are not once to be named among them.

If god didn't create death how did he provide garments for Adam?

God killed animals ( his own creation)in early genesis

God created heaven for us. If not for Adam's sin, then we'd be in heaven now. One doesn't have death in heaven do they?

Thus, you are missing some things in regards to knowledge of the Bible or you have been misled.

Actually, if Adam and Eve had not sinned, they would eventually have been permitted to eat from the tree of life and would therefore have had eternal life on a paradise earth - see Psalms 37:29

Flesh and blood bodies were not created to live in heaven - see 1 Corinthians 15:50.

Wow thanks for pointing that out, so paul once again goes against luke in 17:21 saying the kingdom of god is in your mist?

1 Corinthians 15:50-58 New International Version (NIV)
50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God,

Luke 17:21 is only in harmony with the rest of the Bible if it is translated that way. When I was Lutheran they taught that the kingdom of God was within them - in their hearts. But Jesus was talking to the pharisees whose hearts were corrupt.

The verse simply means that Jesus was in their midst (among them) and that since Jesus was anointed to be King of God's kingdom, he represented the kingdom of God. As in the English prefix of the word kingdom.

As in Jesus' model prayer (Lord's prayer aka the 'our Father') in Matthew 6:9,10 when God's kingdom comes God's will is to be done on earth just as in heaven. As in the suffix of the word 'kingdom' wherein the domain and dominion of the King (Jesus) will include both heaven and earth.

Matthew 5:5 quoting Psalms 37:10,11,29 - the meek shall inherit the earth.

I dont think so, when you accept god is your savior, rose from the dead, confess with your mouth (Roman's 10:9) repent and be baptized (Peter saying it in acts) you will get the holy spirit in you

The holy spirit is a wonderful gift, that's how you can tell real Christian's from fake ones.

 

[GreatestIam]

Not sure what you mean by this post, so you saying you have no soul?

We do not define soul the same way.

Gnostic Christians hold no supernatural fantasy beliefs.

We have grown into mental maturity and put away the things of children as scriptures urge us to do.

Gnostic Jesus was questioned as to what sees the vision?

Primary Sources - The Gospel Of Mary | From Jesus To Christ | FRONTLINE | PBS

The Saviour answered and said, 'He does not see through the soul nor through the spirit, but the mind which [is] between the two - that is [what] sees the vision...'

For where the mind is, there is the treasure.

Christianity does not quite agree, wording wise, with us.

Matthew 6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

The treasure is in you and all you know enters you through your mind and consciousness. The mind is more of where the treasure is than the heart.

Our hearts just confirm that the vision is a treasure.

Regards
DL

I read the the gospel of mary , the other not canonized books of her, they came along in like the years four hundreds or so, way after the fact of Jesus.

The last book canonized was revelation 95 years after he died from the cross

We were talking definitions.

Who cares when the gospels were written and rewritten and plagiarized and rewritten again?

Regards
DL

 

[Wyatt earp]

Not sure what you mean by this post, so you saying you have no soul?

We do not define soul the same way.

Gnostic Christians hold no supernatural fantasy beliefs.

We have grown into mental maturity and put away the things of children as scriptures urge us to do.

Gnostic Jesus was questioned as to what sees the vision?

Primary Sources - The Gospel Of Mary | From Jesus To Christ | FRONTLINE | PBS

The Saviour answered and said, 'He does not see through the soul nor through the spirit, but the mind which [is] between the two - that is [what] sees the vision...'

For where the mind is, there is the treasure.

Christianity does not quite agree, wording wise, with us.

Matthew 6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

The treasure is in you and all you know enters you through your mind and consciousness. The mind is more of where the treasure is than the heart.

Our hearts just confirm that the vision is a treasure.

Regards
DL

I read the the gospel of mary , the other not canonized books of her, they came along in like the years four hundreds or so, way after the fact of Jesus.

The last book canonized was revelation 95 years after he died from the cross

We were talking definitions.

Who cares when the gospels were written and rewritten and plagiarized and rewritten again?

Regards
DL

It means alot, it's all about cannoizing the bible, protestants got rid of a bunch of old books in the bible because they where not written in Hebrew, when the Dead Sea scrolls where found they unearthed part of the book of Tobit written in Hebrew.. and the book of jude mentions the book of tobit found in the eastern orthodox catholic bible

 

[GreatestIam]

Unfortunately, and historically the answer is No.

The religious have been the vasy majority for the last 5,000 years of our history of almost non-stop war.

Only really stupid people will think the small minority of atheists manipulated the religious to fight all those wars, but hey, if you want to thing theists that stupid, go ahead.

I see that you do not argue against the modern statistics that show atheists are a lot more moral than theists. Smart that as you look foolish enough already.

Regards
DL

And the history of Christendom is the most violent of any group despite the fact that they claim they are following Jesus who taught us to love our enemies.(Matthew 5:44)

Those of my religion do not go to war (Isaiah 2:2-4)

Christianity uses Jesus as their scapegoat so they can abdicate their own responsibility for their sins, so it is quite natural for them to blame everyone but themselves.

Inquisitions and jihad are all they have since they cannot argue for the goodness of their genocidal and ever so good god.

They call evil good and good evil and blame atheists for everything they can.

That is why they run for the hills whenever one tries to have them look at their vile morals.

Regards
DL

We call them Christendom - they are not true Christians because they do not follow what Jesus taught.

As I posted above, Christendom has the most violent history of any group - thank you for noting the inquistions. (Jihad is Islam btw). As Lutheran pastor Niemoller noted after observing the evidence of the holocaust:

Who Is to Blame for War? — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY

This is an authorized Web site of Jehovah’s Witnesses. It is a research tool for publications in various languages produced by Jehovah’s Witnesses.

wol.jw.org

"IS God to blame for the wars fought by humankind? “No, God does not want war.” That is how Martin Niemöller, a well-known German Protestant clergyman, answered this question shortly after the end of World War II. His comments were published in 1946 in a book called Ach Gott vom Himmel sieh darein—Sechs Predigten (O God, Look From Heaven—Six Sermons).* The book states:

“Whoever wants to blame God for [wars] does not know, or does not want to know, God’s Word. Of course, it is a different question whether or not we Christians bear a good measure of guilt for the incessant wars. And we cannot escape this question so easily. . . . It can also be accurately recalled that Christian churches have, throughout the ages, repeatedly given themselves to blessing wars, troops, and weapons and that they prayed in a very unchristian way for the destruction of their enemies at war. All this is our fault and the fault of our fathers, but by no means is God to blame. And we Christians of today stand ashamed before a so-called sect like the Earnest Bible Students [Jehovah’s Witnesses], who by the hundreds and thousands went into concentration camps and [even] died because they declined service in war and refused to fire on humans.”

The bible is all about god wanting wars and genocides.

Both Christianity and Islam are fascist religions and both have policies of eventually killing all who do not follow them. That is scripture and Qur'an.

Regards
DL

 

[ESay]

Of all the things that God created and made, for His pleasure, according to the Bible, death and evil are not once to be named among them.

If god didn't create death how did he provide garments for Adam?

God killed animals ( his own creation)in early genesis

God didn't kill any animal until the Great flood happened, did He?

And what garments do you mean? If you mean 'the dress of skin' He made for Adam and Eve after they had eaten from the tree, then these garments may have nothing to do with animals.

 

[Newtonian]

Unfortunately, and historically the answer is No.

The religious have been the vasy majority for the last 5,000 years of our history of almost non-stop war.

Only really stupid people will think the small minority of atheists manipulated the religious to fight all those wars, but hey, if you want to thing theists that stupid, go ahead.

I see that you do not argue against the modern statistics that show atheists are a lot more moral than theists. Smart that as you look foolish enough already.

Regards
DL

And the history of Christendom is the most violent of any group despite the fact that they claim they are following Jesus who taught us to love our enemies.(Matthew 5:44)

Those of my religion do not go to war (Isaiah 2:2-4)

Christianity uses Jesus as their scapegoat so they can abdicate their own responsibility for their sins, so it is quite natural for them to blame everyone but themselves.

Inquisitions and jihad are all they have since they cannot argue for the goodness of their genocidal and ever so good god.

They call evil good and good evil and blame atheists for everything they can.

That is why they run for the hills whenever one tries to have them look at their vile morals.

Regards
DL

We call them Christendom - they are not true Christians because they do not follow what Jesus taught.

As I posted above, Christendom has the most violent history of any group - thank you for noting the inquistions. (Jihad is Islam btw). As Lutheran pastor Niemoller noted after observing the evidence of the holocaust:

Who Is to Blame for War? — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY

This is an authorized Web site of Jehovah’s Witnesses. It is a research tool for publications in various languages produced by Jehovah’s Witnesses.

wol.jw.org

"IS God to blame for the wars fought by humankind? “No, God does not want war.” That is how Martin Niemöller, a well-known German Protestant clergyman, answered this question shortly after the end of World War II. His comments were published in 1946 in a book called Ach Gott vom Himmel sieh darein—Sechs Predigten (O God, Look From Heaven—Six Sermons).* The book states:

“Whoever wants to blame God for [wars] does not know, or does not want to know, God’s Word. Of course, it is a different question whether or not we Christians bear a good measure of guilt for the incessant wars. And we cannot escape this question so easily. . . . It can also be accurately recalled that Christian churches have, throughout the ages, repeatedly given themselves to blessing wars, troops, and weapons and that they prayed in a very unchristian way for the destruction of their enemies at war. All this is our fault and the fault of our fathers, but by no means is God to blame. And we Christians of today stand ashamed before a so-called sect like the Earnest Bible Students [Jehovah’s Witnesses], who by the hundreds and thousands went into concentration camps and [even] died because they declined service in war and refused to fire on humans.”

The bible is all about god wanting wars and genopcides.

Both Christianity and Islam are fascist religions and both have policies of eventually killing all who do not follow them. That is scripture and Qur'an.

Regards
DL

You forget Matthew 5:44 where Jesus told us to love our enemies. True Christians do not go to war - see Isaiah 2:2-4.

Of all the things that God created and made, for His pleasure, according to the Bible, death and evil are not once to be named among them.

If god didn't create death how did he provide garments for Adam?

God killed animals ( his own creation)in early genesis

God created heaven for us. If not for Adam's sin, then we'd be in heaven now. One doesn't have death in heaven do they?

Thus, you are missing some things in regards to knowledge of the Bible or you have been misled.

Actually, if Adam and Eve had not sinned, they would eventually have been permitted to eat from the tree of life and would therefore have had eternal life on a paradise earth - see Psalms 37:29

Flesh and blood bodies were not created to live in heaven - see 1 Corinthians 15:50.

Wow thanks for pointing that out, so paul once again goes against luke in 17:21 saying the kingdom of god is in your mist?

1 Corinthians 15:50-58 New International Version (NIV)
50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God,

Luke 17:21 is only in harmony with the rest of the Bible if it is translated that way. When I was Lutheran they taught that the kingdom of God was within them - in their hearts. But Jesus was talking to the pharisees whose hearts were corrupt.

The verse simply means that Jesus was in their midst (among them) and that since Jesus was anointed to be King of God's kingdom, he represented the kingdom of God. As in the English prefix of the word kingdom.

As in Jesus' model prayer (Lord's prayer aka the 'our Father') in Matthew 6:9,10 when God's kingdom comes God's will is to be done on earth just as in heaven. As in the suffix of the word 'kingdom' wherein the domain and dominion of the King (Jesus) will include both heaven and earth.

Matthew 5:5 quoting Psalms 37:10,11,29 - the meek shall inherit the earth.

I dont think so, when you accept god is your savior, rose from the dead, confess with your mouth (Roman's 10:9) repent and be baptized (Peter saying it in acts) you will get the holy spirit in you

The holy spirit is a wonderful gift, that's how you can tell real Christian's from fake ones.

Love is the primary identifying mark of Jesus' true followers:

John 13:34,35
I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you,+ you also love one another.+ 35 By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.”+

Many in many religions claim to have God's spirit - however they do not manifest the fruits of God's spirit outlined in Galatians 5:22,23 which includes love, peace and kindness. Clearly those who go to war (Matthew 5:44) are not manifesting the fruits of God's spirit - therefore they do not have God's spirit.

But if there is some miraculous spirit they are manifesting ...________________

 

[GreatestIam]

God created evil for his pleasure

You know this how?

I was thinking of his point a few weeks ago..


God created the world/ universe

God created man and woman

God created the devil

God created death/ killed the first animal in the garden of eden to feed Adam and Eve

God created sin

God came down from heaven and died for our sins

We believe in god

We die

We go to heaven

We run around sing songs for god in heaven, cant get married (and I assume no sex allowed)

Why was God so bored and vane, what was the point in all of this grand experiment?

While it is true his creation glorifies him, I don’t believe that’s why he created the material world. He created the material world to share his love and to share in our experiences. He experiences the material world through us.

Lots of people blame God for the bad man does. Few give him credit for the good man does. It seems to be entirely unbalanced and subjective.

I actually like this, something to think about..


He created the material world to share his love and to share in our experiences. He experiences the material world through us.

It’s the logical conclusion.

Jeremiah says he knew us before we where we were born in verse 1:5 , so logically where did we come from?

Jehovah knew Jeremiah before he was born, not before he was conceived.

Back on topic - you all seem to be ignoring Genesis 6:6.

How is one ignoring Genesis 6:6? Of course God regreted

He fucking regretting making Saul in 1st Samuel 15:11

But why did Jehovah feel hurt at heart - what does the context of Genesis 6:6 reveal?

He regreted making mankind, so that is telling my simple mind that:

That he knew us before we where born

Made us in the flesh

And had to finish his mistake in John 19:30

Jehovah sees the embryo before birth:

Psalms 139:16
Your eyes even saw me as an embryo;
All its parts were written in your book
Regarding the days when they were formed,
Before any of them existed.

Genesis 6:6 is not God's mistake, it was man's sin. The context shows why God felt hurt at heart:

Genesis 6:5,6
Consequently Jehovah saw that the badness of man was abundant in the earth and every inclination+ of the thoughts of his heart was only bad all the time.*+ 6 And Jehovah felt regrets+ that he had made men in the earth, and he felt hurt at his heart.+

Man was created in God's image and thus with the capacity to show love - as in Greek agape: love based on principles. Love cannot be predestined - the type of love God has and we can have involves free will. Adam and Eve chose to not love God with all their heart (Matthew 22:37-40). They made that choice, not God.

I might add that no one can force you to love someone or not to love someone. Evidence of this is in the Song of Solomon.

Man was created in OUR image not his image.

Our is plural not one.

Once again Angel's was not humans, God knew us before we where born..

So perhaps he created the universe for our souls, made us in the flesh and let us grow up and realize.....

...…. that he is a genocidal satanic god.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Unfortunately, and historically the answer is No.

The religious have been the vasy majority for the last 5,000 years of our history of almost non-stop war.

Only really stupid people will think the small minority of atheists manipulated the religious to fight all those wars, but hey, if you want to thing theists that stupid, go ahead.

I see that you do not argue against the modern statistics that show atheists are a lot more moral than theists. Smart that as you look foolish enough already.

Regards
DL

And the history of Christendom is the most violent of any group despite the fact that they claim they are following Jesus who taught us to love our enemies.(Matthew 5:44)

Those of my religion do not go to war (Isaiah 2:2-4)

Christianity uses Jesus as their scapegoat so they can abdicate their own responsibility for their sins, so it is quite natural for them to blame everyone but themselves.

Inquisitions and jihad are all they have since they cannot argue for the goodness of their genocidal and ever so good god.

They call evil good and good evil and blame atheists for everything they can.

That is why they run for the hills whenever one tries to have them look at their vile morals.

Regards
DL

We call them Christendom - they are not true Christians because they do not follow what Jesus taught.

As I posted above, Christendom has the most violent history of any group - thank you for noting the inquistions. (Jihad is Islam btw). As Lutheran pastor Niemoller noted after observing the evidence of the holocaust:

Who Is to Blame for War? — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY

This is an authorized Web site of Jehovah’s Witnesses. It is a research tool for publications in various languages produced by Jehovah’s Witnesses.

wol.jw.org

"IS God to blame for the wars fought by humankind? “No, God does not want war.” That is how Martin Niemöller, a well-known German Protestant clergyman, answered this question shortly after the end of World War II. His comments were published in 1946 in a book called Ach Gott vom Himmel sieh darein—Sechs Predigten (O God, Look From Heaven—Six Sermons).* The book states:

“Whoever wants to blame God for [wars] does not know, or does not want to know, God’s Word. Of course, it is a different question whether or not we Christians bear a good measure of guilt for the incessant wars. And we cannot escape this question so easily. . . . It can also be accurately recalled that Christian churches have, throughout the ages, repeatedly given themselves to blessing wars, troops, and weapons and that they prayed in a very unchristian way for the destruction of their enemies at war. All this is our fault and the fault of our fathers, but by no means is God to blame. And we Christians of today stand ashamed before a so-called sect like the Earnest Bible Students [Jehovah’s Witnesses], who by the hundreds and thousands went into concentration camps and [even] died because they declined service in war and refused to fire on humans.”

That's just plain ridiculous, God used people in the bible to start wars against his enemies on earth . In fact Lucifer never killed anyone in the bible.

Sure lucifer made people like Job miserable, but God didn't let him kill him

Not Job, but Satan did kill his children and others. All under god's permission.

God is like a don who sends out his hit man. God is more culpable for those murders than Satan.

Regards
DL