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Good.
That puts all immoral homophobic and misogynous Christians in hell with their god.
It's not good. It's evil that is immoral. God is against atheism, agnosticism, homosexuals, and misogynists. Basically, those who put false gods before him. Thus, Jesus judges the non-believers based on that. For the believers, he judges based on our love for God. It determines our places in heaven.
This is what God has said and not wrong opinions of those in the immoral categories.
I think what we find is you have taken the words of God in the Bible and have twisted them with your gnarled and mangled mind into making God evil and Satan good. You have put a false god like Satan in place of the real God.
Sure lucifer made people like Job miserable, but God didn't let him kill him
It was Satan who killed Job's family and God let him.
Satan wants to kill as many souls
True Christians do not go to war
We had no God with the Nazis,
and we follow Jesus:
Evill is the absence of good.
Only G-d, and external moral authority, can show what is right, and what is evil.
No. The things that God created, for His pleasure, were good.God created evil for his pleasure
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for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
For God made not death: neither hath he pleasure in the destruction of the living. For he created all things, that they might have their being: and the generations of the world were healthful; and there is no poison of destruction in them, nor the kingdom of death upon the earth:
Of all the things that God created and made, for His pleasure, according to the Bible, death and evil are not once to be named among them.
What do you mean by dualistic universe?God is dualistic and so is the universe as shown with the tree of good and evil.
Btw A enjoyable thread preachers I know are pissed off about me..
Have you ever considered that all the things you think you know are wrong?
You deal with atheist, who read them who doesn't have the holy spirit in them, so unfortunately it's just word salad to them
It's all Good until it's Evil.
Of all the things that God created and made, for His pleasure, according to the Bible, death and evil are not once to be named among them.
If god didn't create death how did he provide garments for Adam?
God killed animals ( his own creation)in early genesis
God created heaven for us. If not for Adam's sin, then we'd be in heaven now. One doesn't have death in heaven do they?
Thus, you are missing some things in regards to knowledge of the Bible or you have been misled.
What do you mean by dualistic universe?God is dualistic and so is the universe as shown with the tree of good and evil.
Yes, under the law of Moses - but Jesus changed that - and we follow Jesus:IS God to blame for the wars fought by humankind? “No, God does not want war
It seems God wanted and did wage war in the OT. We are supposed to have a war of good vs evil and Jesus vs Satan during end times. To answer your question, God does wage war in order to save the innocent even though he may not want war. There is no question God has killed more people than Satan, but Satan wants to kill as many souls as possible and send them to the Lake of Fire in the afterlife. That's where he wants to be like God.
Matthew 5:43, 44 (KJV)
Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Niemoller admitted Christendom is largely to blame for the wars in its history and God is not to blame.
In pre-Christian Jewish history God-ordained wars were actually executions since if any Jews practiced what Canaanites practiced those Jews would have been executed within Israel. But Jesus did not authorize his followers to execute anyone for anything. The governments of this world do have that right though - see Romans 13:1-5 but compare Romans 12:17 which comes just before.
See this another thing I really cant comprehend, jesus said in the gospel he didnt come to condemn the law of Moses but rather fulfill it
Sometimes I think the 13 letters of paul is a hack in the NT
Jesus fulfilled the law by obeying it perfectly. As a result, he deserved eternal life and could thus ransom us which imperfect humans could not do - as foretold of the Messiah in Isaiah 53:10,12 and Daniel 9:24-27.
Btw A enjoyable thread preachers I know are pissed off about me..
Of course. You can think.
Lying preachers do not like thinkers who see their con.
Regards
DL
Actually, if Adam and Eve had not sinned, they would eventually have been permitted to eat from the tree of life
Yes, under the law of Moses - but Jesus changed that - and we follow Jesus:IS God to blame for the wars fought by humankind? “No, God does not want war
It seems God wanted and did wage war in the OT. We are supposed to have a war of good vs evil and Jesus vs Satan during end times. To answer your question, God does wage war in order to save the innocent even though he may not want war. There is no question God has killed more people than Satan, but Satan wants to kill as many souls as possible and send them to the Lake of Fire in the afterlife. That's where he wants to be like God.
Matthew 5:43, 44 (KJV)
Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Niemoller admitted Christendom is largely to blame for the wars in its history and God is not to blame.
In pre-Christian Jewish history God-ordained wars were actually executions since if any Jews practiced what Canaanites practiced those Jews would have been executed within Israel. But Jesus did not authorize his followers to execute anyone for anything. The governments of this world do have that right though - see Romans 13:1-5 but compare Romans 12:17 which comes just before.
See this another thing I really cant comprehend, jesus said in the gospel he didnt come to condemn the law of Moses but rather fulfill it
Sometimes I think the 13 letters of paul is a hack in the NT
Jesus fulfilled the law by obeying it perfectly. As a result, he deserved eternal life and could thus ransom us which imperfect humans could not do - as foretold of the Messiah in Isaiah 53:10,12 and Daniel 9:24-27.
You take an immoral position. I am here if you wish to know the moral one.
On Jesus dying for you.
It takes quite an inflated ego to think a god would actually die for you, after condemning you unjustly in the first place.
You have swallowed a lie and don’t care how evil you make Jesus to keep your feel good get out of hell free card.
It is a lie, first and foremost because, like it or not, having another innocent person suffer or die for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral. To abdicate your personal responsibility for your actions or use a scapegoat is immoral.
You also have to ignore what Jesus, as a Jewish Rabbi, would have taught his people.
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.
Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
There is no way that you would teach your children to use a scapegoat to escape their just punishments and here you are doing just that.
Jesus is just a smidge less immoral than his demiurge genocidal father, and here you are trying to put him as low in moral fibre as Yahweh.
Jesus wants us to walk his walk, not ride him like you want to do.
Regards
DL
