Oldestyle
Diamond Member
I'd be more than happy to give Obama credit or economic growth, Jack if you can just tell me what economic policies of HIS made that happen!How do you explain the Trump economy BEFORE Covid 19 then, Jack? How are some of the best economic numbers ever recorded not a "success"?I ask you which President saw income inequality increase more during his Presidency...Trump or Obama and you totally tried to dodge the question, Jack! Why is that? Because you know as well as I do that it grew far more during Barry's Administration than during Trumps?What institutions has Trump "undermined"? Oh wait...you mean his demanding that the higher ups at the FBI, the Justice Department, the CIA and the NSA be held responsible for their illegal actions both before the election and after? I'm sorry, Jack but that doesn't undermine ANY of those agencies! It goes to restoring their reputations! Reputations that were sullied by the likes of Comey, Clapper, Page, Strozk and Brennan!The "fresh young leaders" are still under the thumbs of old guard establishment douchebags like McConnell, Graham, and McCarthy.....And even guys like Make Lee have been slowly selling out.The truth of the matter is that it's the GOP that has fresh young leaders emerging to lead the party!
The GOP sucks worse than ever.
The GOP simply needs to continue preaching what works...and pointing out how the other guy's agenda DOESN'T work! That message isn't getting old because it's not bullshit. The Democrats are veering hard to the left with their party leaders like Pelosi and Schumer scared to death of people like AOC and the rest of her "squad"!
Now more than anytime I can think of...we need to think long and hard about what America is going to be going forward! Do you want to be Venezuela? That's what the Democrats are leading us towards. Use your common sense, folks! If you think America is a special place...you need to understand what made it that in the first place!
The GOP has had four decades to prove that their policies work. Multiple supply side economic policies that have made the economic situation worse, led to higher deficits, and led eventually to a recession...that a Democrat had to come in and bail the country out of. The only thing that's happened is we know Republicans can't govern. First two years of the Trump admin was a perfect example. Nothing gets done. Venezuela? You're closer to that with a wanna be strongman like Trump. And right wingers bleat like sheep that the left wants totalitarianism. But you guys do spend a lot of time working yourselves into a frenzy over a couple of first term congresswomen who probably aren't your representatives. As far as I can see, the moderates still guide the Democrat party. Unlike the whack-a-doodles that been allowed to take over the Republican party. If the GOP thinks this is what "works", they are in a huge amount of trouble.
What a crock, Jack! You're really going to come on here and claim that Donald Trump is the second coming of Hugo Chavez? Chavez is what you get when you let liberals take control of a country! He did away with the Constitution of Venezuela. His policies turned a wealthy nation into one that's now teetering on total collapse! Donald Trump is NOTHING like Hugo Chavez!
I don't have to claim anything. I can see it with my own eyes. Undermine institutions that can place him in check. Ignore the rule of law. Making the press an enemy. Touting conspiracy theories, and dividing the country with rhetoric. So yeah. He's more like Chavez than any Democrat. Trump doesn't have to get rid of the Constitution. He's just made a mockery it. Venezuela is what you get when you have autocratic dictator who bleeds his country dry consolidating wealth into the hands of the elites. Funny how Republicans seem to follow a lot of that mantra, making sure that money always gets into the hands of the 1%, huh?
Trump doesn't make an enemy of the "press"...he simply points out that the Main Stream Media IS his enemy and has been since before he was elected! Chavez totally controlled the Press in Venezuela! They wouldn't DARE to write what the media writes about Trump here!
As for your claim that Trump has only helped the "1%"? Simple question...under which Presidency...the Barack Obama Administration...or the Donald Trump Administration did we see the biggest increases in income inequality?
Let's see, in no particular order. The DOJ, The Supreme Court (but McConnell gets an assist here), The FEC, The CDC, the entire Legislative branch....I could go on but you get the idea. Trump makes an enemy of the press. You can see it in the bottled blonde's Fox News press conference style. He doesn't like getting asked tough questions so he goes on the attack. He screws up constantly, he goes on the attack. He puts his entire leg in his mouth and gets whacked when he tries to walk it back, he goes on the attack. That is the textbook definition of a strongman (wannabe). It's never about taking responsibility. Or the buck stops here. I believe he even said several months ago, "I don't take responsibility for anything".
Trump only helped the 1%? Well yeah, but I was referring to Republicans. Specifically the latest tax gift in 2017. But Trump had little or nothing to do with that. That was Ryan and McConnell's baby. They just told Trump to sign and he could hold a nice press conference with lots of photo ops, smiling and waving. And unless you've been hiding under a rock, income inequality has been an issue since Reagan. What's that? Four Republicans vs Two Democrats.
Kind of sucks when someone blows up one of your talking points like that...doesn't it?
You're the one who brought up income inequality. I just pointed out that there are no conservative policies that have been successes. The answer to your question is Reagan. I don't know what you think is being "blown up"..but I think you need to start consuming some alcohol.
Again. All Trump had to do was not screw it up. Barack Obama handed off to him a booming, growing economy. It was already a success. I know you can't give Obama any credit because that blows your narrative up.
Let's face it. Trump got handed the baton..and then proceeded to not only drop it, but throw it into the fire to melt it.
So I gotta ask. Given the absolute bloodbath on the horizon for the GOP, when do you cut bait with a guy that is going to lead your party to ruin in November?
Barack Obama didn't "hand off" anything, Jack! He was about as bad with the economy as any President we've ever had! You can see just how bad he was in the first two years of his Administration when Democrats could pass whatever they wanted. The only think that saved his ass from having the worst economic numbers EVER is the Republicans taking away control of Congress from the Democrats in the 2010 midterms!
Or did you want to tell us all the wonderful economic policies of Barry's that grew the economy and created jobs, Jack? I could use a laugh!
Oh jeez just stop. Bush Jr handed off the worst economic situation we saw in our lifetime. Obama was elected and you righties lost..your..shit. Sorry Oldstyle. I know you're a true believer. And I fault the Democrats for not standing up and punching Republicans and Conservatives in the gut over the passage of Obamacare (the reason for Republicans taking Congress in 2010) and the whole rise of the Tea Party abortion. If you're that disingenuous that you won't even give Obama credit for the economic growth he handed off to your savior then by all means, sip that grape Kool-Aid...can you just let me know quickly if it tastes funny?