How can we Help James Renner 77, Confessed MI. Fake Elector, Climb Out of the QAnon/Trump Rabbit Hole?

[Rigby5]

Why does the US need electors ?
It seems to be a device that can only add confusion and give bad actors an opportunity to cause mischief.
Like trump is doing.

It is very simple.
If one does go by the popular vote of a democracy, it essentially is a lynch mob, and emotions then rule instead of logic, reason, justice, or truth.

The electoral college is necessary in any republic, since you want selected representatives to be of higher ethics and intellect than the common man.

And no, there is no possible opportunity for elector fraud.
It is the state legislature that invites the correct electors to their session to be officially certified, not the other way around.

 

[konradv]

It is very simple.
If one does go by the popular vote of a democracy, it essentially is a lynch mob, and emotions then rule instead of logic, reason, justice, or truth.

The electoral college is necessary in any republic, since you want selected representatives to be of higher ethics and intellect than the common man.

And no, there is no possible opportunity for elector fraud.
It is the state legislature that invites the correct electors to their session to be officially certified, not the other way around.

The electoral college IS NOT necessary to have a republic and the only lynch mob we saw was on J6, when the Trumpistas refused to accept the decision of the Electoral College.

 

[Rigby5]

Every state has its own formula. Simply showing up with a slate isn’t enough.

No, every state follows about the same formula.
The parties pick the alternate electors before the election.
And then the state legislature invites the electors they decide won the election, to their session to have their vote officially announced.
The state legislature knows who the electors are and how they are supposed to vote, ahead of time.
So there really is no real opportunity for elector fraud in the main election.
It is only the primary that elector fraud is possible, since that is not under government control and there are obvious means of fraud built in, like super-delegates who can vote unpredictably.
Which is why we need to get rid of primaries run by the parties.
We need to let all candidates into the general election, and have voters rank all candidates, to avoid the need for a run off.

 

[Rigby5]

The electoral college IS NOT necessary to have a republic and the only lynch mob we saw was on J6, when the Trumpistas refused to accept the decision of the Electoral College.

Wrong.
The electoral college is necessary in order to have a republic, because majority rule is not a valid means of determining what is right or not.
What if the UN were to be based on popular vote instead of ignoring population sizes?
Should China and India be able to rule the UN?
Of course not.
Population size does not make an opinion more valid.

The reality is that large population states like CA, NY, FL, TX, etc., likely should not even be in the US, but be their own countries, where they can make what laws they want.
But they are totally corrupt in my opinion, and the last thing I would want is for them to have even more power.
The larger the population, the more corrupt.
That is always the case.
And like the invasion of Iraq that was extremely popular, popularity is almost never right.

The J6 protests were correct, because regardless of who actually won the election, there was never the legally required investigation into voter fraud. The 2000 election also was very badly done. Most elections are badly done. We should do all of them much better.

But look at the claims against the J6 protest, and it is easy to see they are lying.
They are claiming the protestor wanted to prevent election certification in order to somehow keep Trump in office. And that obviously is a lie. If the vote is NEVER certified, then Trump would still be out of office. His term would expire regardless. So then clearly there is no possible illegal motive for the protest. Right or wrong, its motives have to be clean. All they could possibly have hoped for was an investigation. And that is their right. We SHOULD have had a much better investigation.

 

[konradv]

Wrong.
The electoral college is necessary in order to have a republic, because majority rule is not a valid means of determining what is right or not.
What if the UN were to be based on popular vote instead of ignoring population sizes?
Should China and India be able to rule the UN?
Of course not.
Population size does not make an opinion more valid.

The reality is that large population states like CA, NY, FL, TX, etc., likely should not even be in the US, but be their own countries, where they can make what laws they want.
But they are totally corrupt in my opinion, and the last thing I would want is for them to have even more power.
The larger the population, the more corrupt.
That is always the case.
And like the invasion of Iraq that was extremely popular, popularity is almost never right.

The J6 protests were correct, because regardless of who actually won the election, there was never the legally required investigation into voter fraud. The 2000 election also was very badly done. Most elections are badly done. We should do all of them much better.

But look at the claims against the J6 protest, and it is easy to see they are lying.
They are claiming the protestor wanted to prevent election certification in order to somehow keep Trump in office. And that obviously is a lie. If the vote is NEVER certified, then Trump would still be out of office. His term would expire regardless. So then clearly there is no possible illegal motive for the protest. Right or wrong, its motives have to be clean. All they could possibly have hoped for was an investigation. And that is their right. We SHOULD have had a much better investigation.

What makes an idea more valid? I don’t see how weird voting laws do. When a party only wins one popular vote in eight, yet wins three presidential contests, people are going to assume the fix is in in favor of the Republicans.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

How can we Help James Renner 77, Confessed MI. Fake Elector, Climb Out of the QAnon/Trump Rabbit Hole?​

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Will you affirm Saint Lisa558 that what you wrote in POST Strfcb00976 should be applicable fo DJT being held criminally responsible under due process of law for engaging in a criminal conspiracy with others in seven states that Biden/Harris to get Republican elected officials to violate their oath of office in order to corruptly overturn the Trump/Pence loss in each respective state?

And when each elected or appointed officer of each state rejected being used in the commission of election fraud, DJT and his campaign staff and lawyers acted criminally to solicit fake Republican electors to be used by Mike Pence if willing to become party to the fraudulent unconstitutional attempt to stay in power beyond January 20, 2021. Pence refused to participate in the plot so on Jan6 the MAGA mob chanted Hang Mike Pence Hang Mike Pence as DJT sat and watched after tweeting to an already violent mob that essentially MPence betrayed them because he is a coward.

Why isn’t DJT to be held Saint Rigby5 to account for such obvious suspected criminal acts under due process of law?

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