Generating electricity for cities in cities

[Old Rocks]

Bullshit. Wind turbines are especially INEFFICIENT, because if the wind velocity is too high they feather, if the wind velocity is too low they are immobile.

These lies have nothing to do with reality.

So that is the reason those ultra-liberals in Texas are installing so much wind power. LOL

 

[westwall]

So that is the reason those ultra-liberals in Texas are installing so much wind power. LOL

No, they are doing it because they are being PAID by taxpayer dollars to do it.

 

[trevorjohnson83]

I think we all know who wins here, I do

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[Sunsettommy]

So that is the reason those ultra-liberals in Texas are installing so much wind power. LOL

They are installing them for the massive tax breaks, shall I have to bring up Warren Buffet again who got over $6 billion in tax returns in just a few years' time, he says the Windpower is a cash bonanza for the rich, the rest of us gets the shaft in increased pricing.

 

[ding]

Now look at the consumption site.
Or keep using bad physics and bad math.

Waste heat from electricity usage is the same. Not so for the generation.

 

[ding]

Someone has never heard of conservation of energy.

The law of conservation of energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed from one form to another, and the total energy in an isolated system remains constant.

Definition​

The law of conservation of energy asserts that in any isolated system, the total energy remains constant over time. This means that while energy can change forms—such as from potential energy to kinetic energy—it cannot be created or annihilated. For example, when a ball is thrown into the air, its kinetic energy decreases as it rises, while its potential energy increases until it reaches its highest point, where kinetic energy is at its minimum and potential energy is at its maximum.
BYJU'S+1

Historical​

The concept was first proposed and tested by the French mathematician and philosopher Émilie du Châtelet in the 18th century. It is a fundamental principle in physics and is often referred to as the first law of thermodynamics.
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The waste heat for electricity usage is the same for all cases. Not so for generation. Fossil fuels produce way more waste heat generating electricity than solar. Whereas solar creates localized cooling at the solar farms.

I don’t know why you are having a problem with this. Isn’t the point of switching to solar to cool the planet?

 

[ding]

Why yes, it is cooler under the panels. Which makes them ideal for covering canals, parking lots, and using in agrivoltaics for some crops. Also cools roofs in the summer while providing some insulation in the winter. In fact, many farmers have found that certain crops not only thrive, but provide better crops under the panels, while the panels provide a second source of income.

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Satellite measurements at 116 large solar farms show it’s cooler above the panels during the daytime. Any photons converted into electricity are photons that don’t produce heat at the surface. Conservation of energy.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Waste heat from electricity usage is the same.

And that's why your claim that solar power cools the planet was so laughable.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Satellite measurements at 116 large solar farms show it’s cooler above the panels during the daytime. Any photons converted into electricity are photons that don’t produce heat at the surface. Conservation of energy.

Right. Cooler at the panel, warmer where the power is used.
Now the issue is the lower albedo means net warming.

Any photons absorbed by the panel aren't reflected by the surface.

 

[trevorjohnson83]

I think ding is right that the sun's heat would convert to mechanical motion which would make it slightly cooler but ding what if the electricity is used to power light bulbs or heating elements? then it just turns right back into heat heating the atmosphere?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I think ding is right that the sun's heat would convert to mechanical motion which would make it slightly cooler but ding what if the electricity is used to power light bulbs or heating elements? then it just turns right back into heat heating the atmosphere?

How much of the solar generated power is converted to mechanical motion?

 

[trevorjohnson83]

How much of the solar generated power is converted to mechanical motion?

heck do I know

your blender and other stuff with electric motors I guess

so I'd ballpark some of a fraction

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

heck do I know

your blender and other stuff with electric motors I guess

so I'd ballpark some of a fraction

Right.
So that all ends up as heat.

 

[ReinyDays]

Portland is a very small area in Oregon. There are vast areas that get ample sunlight even in the winter. Like the areas south of Burns, or between Bend and Burns. Quite obviously you have seen very little of Oregon.

Hey Moron ... Burns has a population of 2,700 ... Harney County itself is the size of Massachusetts and a total population of seven thousand ... I've lived there myself ...

AND they have hydropower out the ass as well ... the stupidity here is Greater Metro Portland is HALF the state's population ... the trunk lines down to California run right through Bend and Klamath Falls ... BPA powers everything from Sacramento to Seattle back East to Bozeman ... besides, if you'd ever slither out of the basement you live in long enough you might have known Bend already has 100 MW of "name-plate" solar production ... still can't use Google? ... here let me help {Cite}] ...

AI has you trained to demand more energy ... energy you don't need ... my comment was about roof-top solar ... that's how hateful you are ...

 

[ReinyDays]

Waste Heat ...

 

[trevorjohnson83]

Right.
So that all ends up as heat.

can opener, blender, small motors, and robotics are all converting that heat into mechanical energy.

 

[trevorjohnson83]

Hey Moron ...

again statements like this where you add the little dots arbitrarily turn out kind of funny 'hey moron' and then pause to think why? why did I just call him a moron? you need to gather your wits?

 

[hjmick]

Just wait till one wants to install a (SMR) small modular nuke reactor.

This one was certified in 2023.

US Certifies First Small Modular Nuclear Reactor

This certification paves the way for companies to construct reactors that require less space, capital, and labor than their conventional counterparts.

www.extremetech.com

I'm thinking about buying some of their stock.

 

[1srelluc]

I'm thinking about buying some of their stock.

I don't know how they are performing stock wise but it's the future.

 

[hjmick]

I don't know how they are performing stock wise but it's the future.

They closed Friday at $38.00.

I just read an article that said they're working with RoPower (Romania) "to assess the potential customer's plans to build a nuclear power plant using NuScale Power's SMRs. The intent is to link six units together to create a larger power plant, another benefit of the modular approach of SMRs."

MSN

I'll keep an eye on it for a week or so before I make the decision to pull the trigger, but I do like the concept.