Generating electricity for cities in cities

[Toddsterpatriot]

Google it.

Knock yourself out.

 

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Knock yourself out.

I already know. Depending upon the efficiency of the plant it’s 40% to 60%. How much waste heat is there from generating electricity from solar panels.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I already know. Depending upon the efficiency of the plant it’s 40% to 60%. How much waste heat is there from generating electricity from solar panels.

About 80% waste heat.

 

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About 80% waste heat.

converting to solar reduces waste heat and causes a cooling affect at solar farms.

 

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About 80% waste heat.

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[Toddsterpatriot]

Link

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

converting to solar reduces waste heat and causes a cooling affect at solar farms.

How is waste heat reduced by solar?

Post the steps you took to come to that conclusuion.

 

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Try asking it the right way, dum dum.

 

[trevorjohnson83]

never fear! look at this!

 

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How is waste heat reduced by solar?

Post the steps you took to come to that conclusuion.

Fossil fuels produce vastly more waste heat and solid waste than solar energy, with most of the energy from burning coal and gas being lost as heat, contributing to the inefficiency and environmental burden of these sources.

Waste Heat from Fossil Fuels

• High Energy Loss:
  Burning fossil fuels like coal and natural gas is inherently inefficient; a large portion of the energy is lost as heat to the environment, never becoming useful electricity.
• Age and Inefficiency:
  Older power plants are less efficient and lose more energy as heat, exacerbating the problem.

Waste Heat and Solid Waste from Solar Energy

• Low Waste Heat:
  Solar energy, as a direct conversion of sunlight into electricity, has minimal waste heat compared to the thermal processes of fossil fuels.
  
  
• Waste Stream:
  The primary waste issue for solar is the eventual disposal of the solar panels themselves at the end of their 30-year lifespan.
  
  
• Trivial Compared to Fossil Fuels:
  Even considering the waste from their production and disposal, solar panels generate a negligible amount of waste compared to the vast quantities of waste, including coal ash and oily sludge, produced by fossil fuels.

 

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How is waste heat reduced by solar?

Post the steps you took to come to that conclusuion.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Fossil fuels produce vastly more waste heat and solid waste than solar energy, with most of the energy from burning coal and gas being lost as heat, contributing to the inefficiency and environmental burden of these sources.

Waste Heat from Fossil Fuels

• High Energy Loss:
  Burning fossil fuels like coal and natural gas is inherently inefficient; a large portion of the energy is lost as heat to the environment, never becoming useful electricity.
• Age and Inefficiency:
  Older power plants are less efficient and lose more energy as heat, exacerbating the problem.

Waste Heat and Solid Waste from Solar Energy

• Low Waste Heat:
  Solar energy, as a direct conversion of sunlight into electricity, has minimal waste heat compared to the thermal processes of fossil fuels.
  
  
• Waste Stream:
  The primary waste issue for solar is the eventual disposal of the solar panels themselves at the end of their 30-year lifespan.
  
  
• Trivial Compared to Fossil Fuels:
  Even considering the waste from their production and disposal, solar panels generate a negligible amount of waste compared to the vast quantities of waste, including coal ash and oily sludge, produced by fossil fuels.

Fossil fuels produce vastly more waste heat and solid waste than solar energy,

Cool story. So what?

Solar energy, as a direct conversion of sunlight into electricity, has minimal waste heat

Now show how a solar panel cools the planet.

 

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Fossil fuels produce vastly more waste heat and solid waste than solar energy,

Cool story. So what?

Solar energy, as a direct conversion of sunlight into electricity, has minimal waste heat

Now show how a solar panel cools the planet.

Like I said… I can’t think of a better way to usher in the next glacial period other than the widespread use of solar power.

Large solar farms create localized cooling and replacing fossil fuels with solar power greatly reduces waste heat.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Like I said… I can’t think of a better way to usher in the next glacial period other than the widespread use of solar power.

Large solar farms create localized cooling and replacing fossil fuels with solar power greatly reduces waste heat.

Like I said… I can’t think of a better way to usher in the next glacial period other than the widespread use of solar power.

Now show that using solar cools the planet.

Large solar farms create localized cooling.

Now look at the entire path of the energy.

and replacing fossil fuels with solar power greatly reduces waste heat.

Your original claim said nothing about replacing.

 

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Like I said… I can’t think of a better way to usher in the next glacial period other than the widespread use of solar power.

Now show that using solar cools the planet.

Large solar farms create localized cooling.

Now look at the entire path of the energy.

and replacing fossil fuels with solar power greatly reduces waste heat.

Your original claim said nothing about replacing.

I already did.

Large solar farms create localized cooling and replacing fossil fuels with solar power greatly reduces waste heat.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0038092X23008320#:~:text=During%20the%20daytime,%20cooling%20with,(10%20out%20of%2022).&text=Fig.,both%20in%20sign%20and%20magnitude

 

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Now look at the entire path of the energy.

I did. If you think converting photons into electricity and then using that electricity creates more waste heat than burning fossil fuels to create electricity and then use that electricity, then you are an idiot.

Are you an idiot? Do you believe sea levels aren’t rising because of a photo of the Statue of Liberty? Are you that big of an idiot?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I already did.

Large solar farms create localized cooling and replacing fossil fuels with solar power greatly reduces waste heat.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0038092X23008320#:~:text=During%20the%20daytime,%20cooling%20with,(10%20out%20of%2022).&text=Fig.,both%20in%20sign%20and%20magnitude

Large solar farms create localized cooling

Right. While also heating the planet.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I did. If you think converting photons into electricity and then using that electricity creates more waste heat than burning fossil fuels to create electricity and then use that electricity, then you are an idiot.

Are you an idiot? Do you believe sea levels aren’t rising because of a photo of the Statue of Liberty? Are you that big of an idiot?

Your original idiotic claim didn't involve replacing fossil fuels.

 

[westwall]

What percentage of heat is lost generating electricity from natural gas or coal?

Depends on the system you are using, but the best nat gas systems lose around 40%, while coal is in the 60 to 70% range.

But, more advanced systems can lower that loss.

 

[trevorjohnson83]

if light is a density on the aether, spreading to less dense aether, the infinite vastness of the aether must exist at depths of cold an emptiness approaching infinity or else heat and light would slow down when it traverses the relative density of the aether, objects would slow down for that matter as well. What do you think Toddsterpatriot ? professor ding ?