First SNAP Ban on Candy and Soda Set To Become Law

[toobfreak]

Nope. I don't owe your kid anything.

You have no say in the matter. You owe the government taxes and the government decides who is owed what.

 

[toobfreak]

Taking a reasonable position

What is reasonable about barring disabled people from drinking a can of soda even if it is sugar free? Just how unhealthy do you think diet cola is? It is carbonated water.

So we have ruled out the saving money argument because there is none.

Now we have ruled out the health argument because there is none.

All that remains is taking away the only pleasure in some people's lives just because they are poor and sick and you think you can do it, despite it not doing them a bit of good nor saving you a penny.

And if this is the case, I say, let us bar ALL people from cola, candy and junk food or anything unhealthy.

 

[XponentialChaos]

I have no problem with this.

People are getting the food assistance they need. And they are also incentivized to work.

If they want Skittles and soda, they need to get it with their own money.

 

[toobfreak]

You’ve changed. I think someone hacked your account. You are taking the liberal position - that welfare recipients are as “entitled” to use other people’s money to buy whatever they want as responsible, self-supporting people do.

No liberal position, it is a constitutional one.

1. Singling out one group for discrimination (and that is what it is) just because they are stuck depending on government programs is unlawful.
2. The government telling people what they are and are not allowed to eat is unconstitutional.

I get it that people on welfare are not a popular lot, I'm just surprised by how quickly otherwise constitutionally-minded people fail in their logic when it comes to a group of people they don't favor just because they resent paying into said programs!

Worse, I am shocked that these same people would support an unconstitutional, discriminatory practice by Big Government without failing to realize that by doing so, they merely open the door for the government eventually imposing its will on THEM.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

doesnt matter,,

dont like it do like the rest of the world does ad use your own money,,

I use my own money, unfortunately many folks aren't fortune enough to use their own money. How about those restrictions or are you just telling us what you wish it was?

 

[JustAGuy1]

You have no say in the matter. You owe the government taxes and the government decides who is owed what.

So you and your family are nothing more than leaches. Got it. You must be so proud.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

They can’t buy food from those hot buffets you see at the grocery stores,

Correction: they can buy them. Just not with OPM.

There should be a list:

Chicken, fish, beef, eggs, cheese, juice, milk, cereal, tuna, bread, bags of frozen veggies, fruit, PB&J, and basic condiments (mayo, ketchup).

The extra stuff they can use they own money.

They can buy it and go home and cook it.

Too bad you don't write the list of what they can buy.

 

[Leo123]

Junk food is only junk food if you eat too much of it. Most things we eat are not going to kill us, that’s why I don’t agree with Kennedy on this. Let me have my Coke With the high fructose corn syrup I will decide how much. Thank you.

 

[toobfreak]

There should obviously be exceptions,

But you and I both know there won't be because the government is incapable of judicious managing "exceptions."

but able bodied, working age people shouldn't be getting food stamps to begin with.

Of course not, but then, where did I ever say anything about able-bodied young people? What are they doing on welfare? I'm talking about old, sick, disabled people with no choice forced onto welfare. Maybe even disabled through the government's own actions itself. Telling these people they must give up the only judicious pleasure left in their life is insane, not just for the discriminatory nature and unconstitutionality of it, but because it doesn't make anyone healthier nor save a dime.

You realize you have crapitus agreeing with you...

No, I have Creepy on Ignore, but that is no matter. In a nation founded on personal liberty, you are making a H U G E mistake empowering the government in savagely and arbitrarily curtailing people's right to choose for themselves what they can and cannot eat. You have to reaslize that it begins by attacking welfare recipients. As soon as that is the norm, now you and I will be next.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Junk food is only junk food if you eat too much of it. Most things we eat are not going to kill us, that’s why I don’t agree with Kennedy on this. Let me have my Coke With the high fructose corn syrup I will decide how much. Thank you.

Nobody has an issue anything you can buy you yourself, but when to candy and shit on the dole, nope,

 

[progressive hunter]

I use my own money, unfortunately many folks aren't fortune enough to use their own money. How about those restrictions or are you just telling us what you wish it was?

the restriction are here for a reason,,

don like them dont take the vouchers,,

 

[toobfreak]

Junk food is only junk food if you eat too much of it.

EXACTLY TRUE. There is nothing on this Earth you can eat that will harm you if it is consumed in moderation.

Candy is expensive. If a welfare person buys nothing but candy bars and Coke, they will run out of food in about a week having spent their entire monthly SNAP allotment on it.

I bet there is not one person here calling for welfare people to give up all sweets and stuff that is willing to give up eating all pizza, hamburgers, hot dogs, cake, pie, and ice cream.

 

[toobfreak]

Nobody has an issue anything you can buy you yourself, but when to candy and shit on the dole, nope,

Let's take your logic one step farther: I have no issue with you driving on the highways I finance, but if you are going to use them, then I ordain you must drive a tiny shitbox car in order to save wear and tear on my roads.

And while we are at it, I'm sick of you wasting my electricity, so I ordain you use nothing over a 40 watt light bulb and only two hours of TV a day. Oh and you only get one refrigerator.

I won't have you wasting my electricity and highways on the dole anymore.

 

[toobfreak]

So you and your family are nothing more than leaches. Got it. You must be so proud.

Where did I ever say a word about me or my family? I'm talking strict legality and constitutionalism.

I just do not want the government having any power to be telling me how I live much less what I eat, and this is right where giving the government any power leads.

Really amazing how people who otherwise call themselves "conservative" jump ship to think just like an EU fascist statist.

 

[scruffy]

Can't buy ready to eat food with food stamps

Yes you can.

All over Los Angeles.

Chick-fil-A, Burger King, and any hot food at 7/11.

 

[toobfreak]

You have the freedom of choice for what YOU can afford. If I am paying for YOU, I should have a say.

Where is that in the Constitution? Where is that applied to other groups? When did you begin thinking you had any say in how the government runs any government program just because you pay into it? You have no choice but to pay into it--- try telling the government you are finished with paying into welfare programs because you don't agree with how they spend it, and see what the government thinks of "your say."

Worse, many people DO NOT have the freedom of choice on what they can afford because their ability to work for themselves and earn their own money was taken away from them through no fault of their own.

So where did it ever happen that it was decided such people should be punished and forced to live an austere life despite there being neither any health nor financial benefit for them or you???

THE PROBLEM IS, there are a hundred different reasons why a person might be on welfare. I cannot think of anything more dangerous and stupid then giving a state bureaucrat the power to make one single BLANKET decision that applies the same to all.

 

[XponentialChaos]

EBT cash can’t be used to buy alcohol or cigarettes.

How is this any different?

 

[progressive hunter]

Let's take your logic one step farther: I have no issue with you driving on the highways I finance, but if you are going to use them, then I ordain you must drive a tiny shitbox car in order to save wear and tear on my roads.

And while we are at it, I'm sick of you wasting my electricity, so I ordain you use nothing over a 40 watt light bulb and only two hours of TV a day. Oh and you only get one refrigerator.

I won't have you wasting my electricity and highways on the dole anymore.

the world doesnt revolve around you or your opinion,,

you dont like the cars WE DRIVE AND PAID for you can fuck off,,

 

[Crepitus]

A Big Gulp is soda. At least here in CA, you can blow your entire month's EBT on soda.

I do not believe that is true.

 

[westwall]

Where is that in the Constitution? Where is that applied to other groups? When did you begin thinking you had any say in how the government runs any government program just because you pay into it? You have no choice but to pay into it--- try telling the government you are finished with paying into welfare programs because you don't agree with how they spend it, and see what the government thinks of "your say."

Worse, many people DO NOT have the freedom of choice on what they can afford because their ability to work for themselves and earn their own money was taken away from them through no fault of their own.

So where did it ever happen that it was decided such people should be punished and forced to live an austere life despite there being neither any health nor financial benefit for them or you???

THE PROBLEM IS, there are a hundred different reasons why a person might be on welfare. I cannot think of anything more dangerous and stupid then giving a state bureaucrat the power to make one single BLANKET decision that applies the same to all.

Where is SNAP in the Constitution?