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I was just telling my son about how when I was in High School, I had an honors Am. History course, where we had to do a term paper about what would've happened if just one thing in history had changed.
I couldn't think of anything, so I asked my teacher, he was a great guy, for some ideas.
He suggested doing research into what would have happened if the US had broken the Japanese navel code before the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor.
So I started researching it.
That's when my high school eyes were opened. Holy shit. That teacher knew what he was doing all along.
The answer? Nothing. Absolutely nothing would have happened differently. The British had broken that code before Japan had attacked, and there were none of the U.S.'s most powerful navel assets at that base on purpose.
He just wanted me to find out the truth on my own.
Conspiracy theories (really lies) is what government and it's many court jesters tell us.If You've Heard of Someone, Don't Listen to HimHe actively implemented a plan to position Japan into attacking, knew it was coming, and purposely refused to warn anyone.
Government is a most heinous force.
Happy Pearl Harbor day.
Don't believe what you're told anywhere. Conspiracy theories are plants meant to throw you off on a wild goose chase.
It is said truth is stranger than fiction...most certainly true when dealing with politicians. Sadly foolish statists and those brainwashed in government schools, don't want the truth.
Here is the truth...can you accept it?
Stinnett conclusively demonstrates with vast and incontrovertible documentary evidence that in order to precipitate an unwilling American public into supporting intervention in the Second World War, President Roosevelt oversaw the contrivance and deployment of a closely-guarded secret plot to goad the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor. The plan was set in motion in October 1940, and its development closely monitored through decoded intercepts of Japanese diplomatic and military radio communications. Knowledge of the plan was limited to 13 Roosevelt administration members and chief military officers, and 21 members of Naval Intelligence and related operations. Once it produced the intended result and the attack impended, the Pacific fleet’s modern naval vessels were sent to sea from Pearl Harbor, leaving seven antiquated World War One battleships as decoys. Meanwhile, the Japanese fleet was tracked with radio intercepts from its formation off the Kuril Islands on November 16, and its sailing for Hawaii on November 26; its course was cleared of all shipping with a Vacant Sea order on the 22nd; and Pearl Harbor naval patrols were ordered out of the area on the 25th. Intelligence of the impending attack was withheld from the officers (Admiral Kimmel and General Short) charged with defending Pearl Harbor, who were kept uninformed of the plan and intelligence of the impending attack, and scape-goated afterward.
“Previous accounts have claimed that the United States had not cracked Japanese military codes prior to the attack. We now know this is wrong. Previous accounts have insisted that the Japanese fleet maintained strict radio silent. This, too, is wrong. The truth is clear: FDR knew.” [5]
Pearl Harbor Facts and Proof
Conspiracy theories (really lies) is what government and it's many court jesters tell us.If You've Heard of Someone, Don't Listen to HimHe actively implemented a plan to position Japan into attacking, knew it was coming, and purposely refused to warn anyone.
Government is a most heinous force.
Happy Pearl Harbor day.
Don't believe what you're told anywhere. Conspiracy theories are plants meant to throw you off on a wild goose chase.
Never believe what government tells you. It lies always which is why liars tend to be politicians...the worst among us.
War is the health of the state...and this is absolutely true for all US wars.It is said truth is stranger than fiction...most certainly true when dealing with politicians. Sadly foolish statists and those brainwashed in government schools, don't want the truth.
Here is the truth...can you accept it?
Stinnett conclusively demonstrates with vast and incontrovertible documentary evidence that in order to precipitate an unwilling American public into supporting intervention in the Second World War, President Roosevelt oversaw the contrivance and deployment of a closely-guarded secret plot to goad the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor. The plan was set in motion in October 1940, and its development closely monitored through decoded intercepts of Japanese diplomatic and military radio communications. Knowledge of the plan was limited to 13 Roosevelt administration members and chief military officers, and 21 members of Naval Intelligence and related operations. Once it produced the intended result and the attack impended, the Pacific fleet’s modern naval vessels were sent to sea from Pearl Harbor, leaving seven antiquated World War One battleships as decoys. Meanwhile, the Japanese fleet was tracked with radio intercepts from its formation off the Kuril Islands on November 16, and its sailing for Hawaii on November 26; its course was cleared of all shipping with a Vacant Sea order on the 22nd; and Pearl Harbor naval patrols were ordered out of the area on the 25th. Intelligence of the impending attack was withheld from the officers (Admiral Kimmel and General Short) charged with defending Pearl Harbor, who were kept uninformed of the plan and intelligence of the impending attack, and scape-goated afterward.
“Previous accounts have claimed that the United States had not cracked Japanese military codes prior to the attack. We now know this is wrong. Previous accounts have insisted that the Japanese fleet maintained strict radio silent. This, too, is wrong. The truth is clear: FDR knew.” [5]
Pearl Harbor Facts and Proof
I guess it depends on the fiction.
When my son was old enough, I had to teach him the truth about politics and war. We sat down to watch a movie to broach the topic. It was a movie about how the establishment is interested in fooling the population to achieve it's own agenda.
You mean Roosevelt, (yes, both of them, remember, Teddy and his Rough Riders wanted war with Spain) would manipulate events to produce a war?
Great movie to open young minds to the nature of reality.
Espionage, piracy, extraordinary rendition, torture, covert ops., special forces, false flags, clandestine arts, hell, it's got it all.
. . . oh, and love.
They would STILL be investigatingCan't understand why Republicans in the Congress did not investigate Pearl Harbor, if they had, some of these charges might have some validity.
Silly...because the Rs are statists just like Ds and just like YOU. If you don't know that at your advanced age, you never will.Can't understand why Republicans in the Congress did not investigate Pearl Harbor, if they had, some of these charges might have some validity.
Purple[edit]
The Japanese code dubbed "Purple", which was used by the Foreign Office and only for diplomatic (but not for military messages), was broken by Army cryptographers in 1940. A 14-part message using this code, sent from Japan to its embassy in Washington, was decoded in Washington on 6 and 7 December. The message, which made plain the Japanese intention to break off diplomatic relations with the United States, was to be delivered by the Japanese ambassador at 1 p.m. Washington time (dawn in the Pacific). Colonel Rufus S. Bratton, then serving as an aide to Marshall, took this to mean that the Japanese intended to attack at dawn somewhere in the Pacific. Marshall ordered a warning message sent to American bases in the area, including Hawaii. Due to atmospheric transmission conditions the message was sent out via Western Union rather than the usual signal channels and was not received until the attack was already underway.[27]
Pearl Harbor advance-knowledge conspiracy theory - Wikipedia
They knew it was coming and helped it happen...Any military planner worthy of the term, looking at the pre-Dec. 1941 map of the Pacific and familiar with the previous thirty years' history, would not have been 'surprised' that Japan did what it did.
That US military planners claim to have been surprised is, therefore, not believable. However, that does not clarify much in the way or any conspiracy theories. It may merely reflect upon competence.
Yet it does not explain what they mean by provoking Japan to attack the US..Nor does it specify that FDR knew the time, date and place of the attack.Purple[edit]
The Japanese code dubbed "Purple", which was used by the Foreign Office and only for diplomatic (but not for military messages), was broken by Army cryptographers in 1940. A 14-part message using this code, sent from Japan to its embassy in Washington, was decoded in Washington on 6 and 7 December. The message, which made plain the Japanese intention to break off diplomatic relations with the United States, was to be delivered by the Japanese ambassador at 1 p.m. Washington time (dawn in the Pacific). Colonel Rufus S. Bratton, then serving as an aide to Marshall, took this to mean that the Japanese intended to attack at dawn somewhere in the Pacific. Marshall ordered a warning message sent to American bases in the area, including Hawaii. Due to atmospheric transmission conditions the message was sent out via Western Union rather than the usual signal channels and was not received until the attack was already underway.[27]
Pearl Harbor advance-knowledge conspiracy theory - Wikipedia
Best not to cite government jester websites...
Have you bothered to read Churchill's comments on the matter?...well go to this cite and learn something.
PEARL HARBOR:
FDR KNEW
Churchill wrote in his Nobel Prize winning series on WWII that FDR knew about the Japanese plans to attack Pearl Harbor. The following is from pages 602-603 of THE GRAND ALLIANCE, c1950. Churchill makes these points about his good friend and colleague FDR, accusing him of treason while knowing that the facts would eventually come out:
PEARL HARBOR: FDR KNEW
- Hawaii's commanders did not get proper warning.
- Churchill was not going to judge what FDR did at Pearl Harbor.
- FDR and he were very afraid that the US could not come into the war unless Japan attacked the U.S.
- Pearl Harbor was worth the price.
- FDR "knew the full and immediate purpose" of the Japanese at Pearl Harbor.
- FDR welcomed the attack.
- And this amazing statement: "Nor must we allow the account in detail of diplomatic interchanges to portray Japan as an injured innocent..." That is an admission, granted forced by the facts, that Japan WAS the injured innocent, maneuvered into firing the first shot, as Secretary of War Stimson put it. Cabinet Minister Sir Oliver Lyttelton, expressed the same point on June 20, 1944, to the American Chamber of Commerce: "Japan was provoked into attacking the Americans at Pearl Harbor. It is a travesty on history ever to say that America was forced into the war. Everyone knows where American sympathies were. It is incorrect to say that America was ever truly neutral even before America came into the war on a fighting basis." - See PH VERDICT OF HISTORY, Prange, pp 39-40.
Historian and acclaimed Reagan biographer Craig Shirley, author of the just releasedDecember 1941, doesn't blame FDR for blowing it, but instead tells Whispers that it "does suggest that there were more pieces to the puzzle" that the administration missed. The 70th anniversary of the attack is next month.
When asserting such charges, real evidence is needed, like a copy of the orders or memos regarding the actions There are none in this blog review..There are no direct citations with visible evidence...Only what someone writing the book claims...In other words, you, the reader,, are just to assume what is said is the truth...They knew it was coming and helped it happen...Any military planner worthy of the term, looking at the pre-Dec. 1941 map of the Pacific and familiar with the previous thirty years' history, would not have been 'surprised' that Japan did what it did.
That US military planners claim to have been surprised is, therefore, not believable. However, that does not clarify much in the way or any conspiracy theories. It may merely reflect upon competence.
Knowledge of the plan was limited to 13 Roosevelt administration members and chief military officers, and 21 members of Naval Intelligence and related operations. Once it produced the intended result and the attack impended, the Pacific fleet’s modern naval vessels were sent to sea from Pearl Harbor, leaving seven antiquated World War One battleships as decoys. Meanwhile, the Japanese fleet was tracked with radio intercepts from its formation off the Kuril Islands on November 16, and its sailing for Hawaii on November 26; its course was cleared of all shipping with a Vacant Sea order on the 22nd; and Pearl Harbor naval patrols were ordered out of the area on the 25th. Intelligence of the impending attack was withheld from the officers (Admiral Kimmel and General Short) charged with defending Pearl Harbor, who were kept uninformed of the plan and intelligence of the impending attack, and scape-goated afterward. A coverup of the entire operation was maintained through eight official and Congressional investigations between 1941 and 1946, and down to Strom Thurmond’s inquiry in 1995.
Pearl Harbor Facts and Proof
My post was not in reference to anything other than what was apparent at the time. Japan had the biggest navy in the world, by far the most aircraft carriers, an absolute dependence upon imported resources, a history of 'surprise' attacks, and a radical, out-of-control militarist, fascist, right wing government in charge.When asserting such charges, real evidence is needed, like a copy of the orders or memos regarding the actions There are none in this blog review..There are no direct citations with visible evidence...Only what someone writing the book claims...In other words, you, the reader,, are just to assume what is said is the truth...They knew it was coming and helped it happen...Any military planner worthy of the term, looking at the pre-Dec. 1941 map of the Pacific and familiar with the previous thirty years' history, would not have been 'surprised' that Japan did what it did.
That US military planners claim to have been surprised is, therefore, not believable. However, that does not clarify much in the way or any conspiracy theories. It may merely reflect upon competence.
Knowledge of the plan was limited to 13 Roosevelt administration members and chief military officers, and 21 members of Naval Intelligence and related operations. Once it produced the intended result and the attack impended, the Pacific fleet’s modern naval vessels were sent to sea from Pearl Harbor, leaving seven antiquated World War One battleships as decoys. Meanwhile, the Japanese fleet was tracked with radio intercepts from its formation off the Kuril Islands on November 16, and its sailing for Hawaii on November 26; its course was cleared of all shipping with a Vacant Sea order on the 22nd; and Pearl Harbor naval patrols were ordered out of the area on the 25th. Intelligence of the impending attack was withheld from the officers (Admiral Kimmel and General Short) charged with defending Pearl Harbor, who were kept uninformed of the plan and intelligence of the impending attack, and scape-goated afterward. A coverup of the entire operation was maintained through eight official and Congressional investigations between 1941 and 1946, and down to Strom Thurmond’s inquiry in 1995.
Pearl Harbor Facts and Proof