Electric Car Sales Double

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Rightwing, sheik lovin', Koch duped, Murdoch readin', carbon suckers need to get over it - alternative energy is on it's way and it's here to stay.
I would think, instead of fighting it, righties would be investing in and making a ton-o-dough in-----in the alternative energy market but-----but far be it from Republicans to invest in an American growth industry.

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Electric Car Sales Double

Jul 23, 2013

This is a good time to be in the business of selling electric vehicles.

Once moribund, sales of electric cars have more than doubled in the U.S. during the first six months of 2013 compared to the same time period in 2012. Americans have purchased 41,447 of plug-in electric vehicles since January. Thirty-six percent of all the electric cars on the road today have been bought in the previous six months.

The sales figures mark a bold turnaround. It was only February when President Obama backtracked from a stated goal of putting more than 1 million electric cars on the road by 2015. While the recent sales surge won't revive those early hopes -- EV sales still represent only 1.23 percent of the total market -- they are a firm sign of encouragement.

"It highlights the fact you can't look at one month or two months of data," said Patrick Davis, director of the vehicle technology office at the Department of Energy.

"It's the nature of the vehicle market for growth to initially seem slow," he said. "As a matter of fact, through the years, when you look at the introduction of new technologies, whether it's front-wheel drive or airbags or whatever, it happens slow at first and then sort of takes off. Growth happens very quickly."

In some areas of the country, the Nissan Leaf electric vehicle is selling so well that dealerships are running out of inventory.

The automaker reported sales of 2,225 Leafs in June, more than quadruple the 535 sold in the same month one year ago. Through the first half of 2013, sales of the Leaf have jumped 214.6 percent.

The once-beleaguered Chevy Volt is selling even better. General Motors sold 2,698 Volts in June, an increase of 59.2 percent compared to the same month on year prior.


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Oh goody! 47,000 sold in January....compared to the paltry sum of what 15.22 MILLION regular cars. Growth industry? Yeah, I guess. I wouldn't call it booming though.....





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And more and more auto manufactures adding EVs to their line. Home solar prices declining rapidly, even as the choice in EVs increases. And as the advances in batteries continues, and the price per kWhr declines, the EV will be more attractive to a much larger part of the market.
 
Of course, just double is only 47,000. 94,000 next year. 188,000 in two years, ect. LOL, the numbers get big very quickly.

Spot on Old Rocks and-----and I'm guessing the truthiness of this part of the article flew right over westwall's head; "It's the nature of the vehicle market for growth to initially seem slow," he said. "As a matter of fact, through the years, when you look at the introduction of new technologies, whether it's front-wheel drive or airbags or whatever, it happens slow at first and then sort of takes off. Growth happens very quickly."



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Kroger's is committed to charging stations at all their stores

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Keep dreaming boys. And it is good to dream. However, so long as the cost of EV's is as high as it is forget huge growth. They are the playthings of the well to do and will be for many a year.

Just save the hyperbole.
 
If a factory sells 500 units in a year and somehow keeps from going bankrupt and sells 2,000 units the next year you could say they quadrupled their sales but they still only sold 2,000 units. Ford sold 84,000 Edsels in 1957 and they called it a failure.
 
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Rightwing, sheik lovin', Koch duped, Murdoch readin', carbon suckers need to get over it - alternative energy is on it's way and it's here to stay.
Electricity isn't an "alternative energy", nincompoop.


If you want to play semantic games about how electricity is produced, go play with yourself.




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Rightwing, sheik lovin', Koch duped, Murdoch readin', carbon suckers need to get over it - alternative energy is on it's way and it's here to stay.
Electricity isn't an "alternative energy", nincompoop.


If you want to play semantic games about how electricity is produced, go play with yourself.
Irrelevant.

Electricity has been around for over a century...The only things that it is any alternative to are wood-fired stoves and beasts of burden.

But you go ahead and keep pretending that heavy metals and toxic electrolytes -along with all the hazmat disposal liabilities that come with them- are a superior trade-off to hydrocarbon fuel.....Because they're not for the vast majority of consumers who lack 7-figure bank accounts.
 
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Electricity isn't an "alternative energy", nincompoop.


If you want to play semantic games about how electricity is produced, go play with yourself.
Irrelevant.

Electricity has been around for over a century...The only things that it is any alternative to are wood-fired stoves and beasts of burden.

But you go ahead and keep pretending that heavy metals and toxic electrolytes -along with all the hazmat disposal liabilities that come with them- are a superior trade-off to hydrocarbon fuel.....Because they're not for the vast majority of consumers who lack 7-figure bank accounts.


If-----if you had paid closer attention to your education-----your education at a time when Lincoln's
land-grant universities were offering an education at reasonable tuition, you too could have a seven figure bank account by this time of your life (is that a lot? I think I remember you whining that a quarter mil a year ain't much). Of course-----of course you're overlooking, new products start out high, remember the cost of your first cell phone, mine was a little over $600 bucks. So check it out dude/dudette, the cost of EV's is already starting to drop; "The base price of the 2014 Focus EV will be $35,200, down from $39,200 on the outgoing 2013 model. Factoring in a $7,500 federal tax credit, a customer could now buy a Focus EV for $27,700; in California, where there are added incentives, that cost is $25,200.

Nissan Motor Nissan Motor started the price war back in January, when it when it cut the starting price on its slow-selling LEAF to $28,800 and offered a $199 monthly lease. Honda Motor HMC -0.23% slashed the lease price on its plug-in Honda Fit from $389 to $259 a month and included a free home charging station. General Motors GM -0.16% cut the price of its Chevrolet Volt by $4,000-$5,000 and is offering a $199 per month lease on its newly launched Chevy Spark EV. The Fiat 500e EV, which goes on sale later this summer, also has a $199-per-month lease.

Just a few weeks ago, Ford insisted it didn’t need to match price cuts by Chevrolet, Nissan, Honda and Fiat because EVs are just a small part of its fuel-efficient lineup, said Joe Hinrichs, Ford’s president of The Americas. Unlike some other manufacturers, he said, Ford is not dependent on electric car sales to meet the government’s stricter fuel economy standards. The carmaker has seven models that get more than 40 miles per gallon and later this year, it will add a 1.0-liter engine to its expanding EcoBoost powertrain lineup. Also, the Michigan factory where it makes the Focus EV is among its most flexible, building other versions of the Focus as well as the C-MAX hybrid and C-MAX Energi, a plug-in hybrid. That flexibility allows Ford to match production to demand, Hinrichs said.

So far this year, Ford has sold just 900 Focus EVs. It sold 685 in 2012. By comparison, Ford has sold more than 20,000 C-MAX hybrids and plug-in hybrids so far in 2013. There’s no sense building cars that people don’t want.

But Ford couldn’t afford to be out of sync with the competition, either. Nissan saw an 18 percent jump in LEAF sales after the price cut.

“The new starting (price) of $35,200 keeps us competitive in the marketplace and is an important part of our commitment to provide customers with a range of electrified vehicles to choose from,” a spokeswoman said."

Car manufacturers are all-in-----all-in or left behind!

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Don't give a shit...I can still pick up a very nice low-mileage Subaru for 10K- 12K....Can drive it all day, too.

Don't need your grossly overpriced status symbol hobby car for rich liberoidal assholes.

Don't need to nag gubmint to install charging stations for me to keep it going, either.
 
Don't give a shit...I can still pick up a very nice low-mileage Subaru for 10K- 12K....Can drive it all day, too.

Don't need your grossly overpriced status symbol hobby car for rich liberoidal assholes.

Don't need to nag gubmint to install charging stations for me to keep it going, either.


Really? You really "Don't give a shit" about your fellow Americans-----your fellow Americans jobs,
American industry and-----and you "Don't give a shit" about how America will meet it's future energy needs? Really?-----really, you didn't have to tell us that you hate America and Americans - we already knew.

Stop and think about it, if you would have paid attention in school, worked hard, or got lucky you'd be able to afford a better lifestyle than buying junk cars--blame yourself.
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Don't give a shit...I can still pick up a very nice low-mileage Subaru for 10K- 12K....Can drive it all day, too.

Don't need your grossly overpriced status symbol hobby car for rich liberoidal assholes.

Don't need to nag gubmint to install charging stations for me to keep it going, either.


Really? You really "Don't give a shit" about your fellow Americans-----your fellow Americans jobs,
American industry and-----and you "Don't give a shit" about how America will meet it's future energy needs? Really?-----really, you didn't have to tell us that you hate America and Americans - we already knew.

Stop and think about it, if you would have paid attention in school, worked hard, or got lucky you'd be able to afford a better lifestyle than buying junk cars--blame yourself.
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There are lots of American jobs all over the nation, building conventional piston engined cars...Lots of jobs to be had maintaining, repairing and producing fuel for them, too.

WTF are you blabbering about?
 
Don't give a shit...I can still pick up a very nice low-mileage Subaru for 10K- 12K....Can drive it all day, too.

Don't need your grossly overpriced status symbol hobby car for rich liberoidal assholes.

Don't need to nag gubmint to install charging stations for me to keep it going, either.


Really? You really "Don't give a shit" about your fellow Americans-----your fellow Americans jobs,
American industry and-----and you "Don't give a shit" about how America will meet it's future energy needs? Really?-----really, you didn't have to tell us that you hate America and Americans - we already knew.

Stop and think about it, if you would have paid attention in school, worked hard, or got lucky you'd be able to afford a better lifestyle than buying junk cars--blame yourself.
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We won't meet the demand with alternative energy systems for a host of reasons. First off they are nowhere near as efficient and as the windmill debacle becomes obvious in the next ten years you will see them disappear, and that doesn't even take into account the massacre of birds both endangered and common, or the under water Cuisinart that will kill untold numbers of fish and marine mammals.
 
Murdoch rightwing blah blah. What the hell are you treehugger Leftytoons smoking? No one is against electric cars.
 
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Rightwing, sheik lovin', Koch duped, Murdoch readin', carbon suckers need to get over it - alternative energy is on it's way and it's here to stay.
Electricity isn't an "alternative energy", nincompoop.


If you want to play semantic games about how electricity is produced, go play with yourself.

Really don't know what problem you think you are solving here.. Other than throwing your political jihad mottos all over the place...

If we all got into our coal-fired battery wagons and drove at 60mph, we'd all be drawing the equiv. electricity that an average house uses every hour ---- each 2.6 minutes that we drive. THAT NUMBER -- aint gonna change with battery capacity or even much with battery efficiency..

Should we all be sucking up a house hour's worth of electricity every 2.6 minutes Star?

I think EVs are nifty.. But the future of EVs is in fuel cells and hydrogen --- NOT plug-in batterywagons..

Oddball already told ya that this is NOT about alternative energy.. The picture book of energy sources that you gave us is chock full of patently BAD IDEAS for alternative energy.

You like geothermal --- but probably don't like fracking right? Geothermal is where we LEARNED to frack.. And it's enviro impact is several times GREATER than an oil pump.. Not even RENEWABLE by rigorous definition.. The wells cool out and need to be redrilled.

Biomass? Seriously? Burning garbage? How do you burn garbage cleanly if you don't believe that coal can burned cleanly??

Tidal ?? You for real?? Ever see the plans for sectioning off multiple square miles of tidal basins like huge back-filled dams and the impact on shorelife? Pretty much creating a dead zone.. That is not environmentalism unless you're a complete hypocrit..

Roughly -- you're not solving anything with 1/2 of that list.. Or with just multiplying EVs by government subsidy and/or edict..

Tell us PLEASE --- what problem do you THINK you're solving?

Have you figured in the timescale and costs of EXPANDING the grid distribution and generation to every nooky cranny of the nation?
 
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