Unkotare
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Yeah, you don't give a **** about anything. Keep trying to be 'proud' of that, you nihilistic waste of a human life. You're just an empty shell taking up space in my country.
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Yeah, you don't give a **** about anything. Keep trying to be 'proud' of that, you nihilistic waste of a human life. You're just an empty shell taking up space in my country.
SFC Ollie
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It's obvious that there are certain people on this thread that if the USA were ever to come under attack they would simply be happy to take the winners side. Of course they would hide under their beds until it was over.........
Desperado
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Again that statement changes everything. Which is why (at first) it was acceptable to the US to attack Afghanistan.... However, 12 years in country and trying to get Afghanistan to sign a treaty to allow US troops there till 2024 is totally unacceptable.
SFC Ollie
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As i earlier stated we had good reasons for going into both Afghanistan and Iraq. But we should have been out of both within about 6 months...
SFC Ollie
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Now think about it, "That changes everything". Does it?
So fair weather Americans are OK with you? When the going gets tough the wannabes hide until the shit is over.
I don't need any Fair weather Americans. I would be ashamed to even mention half the BS on this thread at my American legion Post. Those veterans would offer several of you a hanky and a one way boat ticket...
So fair weather Americans are OK with you? When the going gets tough the wannabes hide until the shit is over.
I don't need any Fair weather Americans. I would be ashamed to even mention half the BS on this thread at my American legion Post. Those veterans would offer several of you a hanky and a one way boat ticket...
Desperado
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As I stated earlier, I agree, we had good reasons for going into Afghanistan.....However we had no business starting a pre-emptive war in Iraq, where the "Mission Statement" kept changing.
Im just glad to see that there are more people that question the government and just not accept its' word anymore. Our government lost that credibility years ago.
I would not call them "Fair weather Americans" but rather right thinking Americans and I would rather have them than the "Ours not to reason why, ours but to do and die" wingnuts.
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SFC Ollie
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The USA was the greatest Country to ever be on this earth.
What a sad sad sentence.
What a sad sad sentence.
High_Gravity
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Yes.
I'm not sure the phrase "if the US were ever to come under attack" is even realistic. Outside of Pearl Harbor (which was annexed territory anyway), some skirmishes leading up to the War of 1812, and the Revolution itself (which is our starting point), is there even a single instance where that's ever happened on American soil, in American skies or on American waters?
9/11 counts, though that's not traditional war, hence the support for action in Afghanistan to get to the source. That's legitimate.
On the other hand there are myriad examples of us invading somebody else (Canada, Mexico, Cuba, Iraq, Panama, Libya, Grenada...) or jumping into an existing foreign conflict on foreign soil (Vietnam, Korea, the World Wars, some of which may be justified). But what's ever happened here?
Now if Canada suddenly gets taken over by Nazis, if Mexico overnight gets a nuke, then we may then begin to approach what is to this point an abstract theory. But that's not exactly on the horizon.
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Spiderman
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Your country?
That's funny.
I daresay I own more of this country than you.
I don't concern myself with things like pride and patriotism. What's the sense in being proud of something you had absolutely nothing to do with like where you were born.
I don't care what you think because you can't think for yourself you just do as your told. I actually care about people I don't give a shit where they are from and I have no illusions of superiority simply because I happened to have been born in a particular place.
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I don't find anything to particularly recommend that top-dog assessment.
The US is a cool country.
Canada is a cool country.
Denmark is a cool country.
I don't need to rank them or pick out "X" is better than "Y". Everybody's got their own character. And that's a good thing.
This international competitive thing has always mystified me. Why do we need maxims of superiority? What's the point of crowing "we're the greatest"? Seems to me the goal of a country is to nurture and protect its citizens that they may thrive. If we're doing that, why fixate on what everybody else is doing?
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If you aren't willing to do what needs to be done to pass the rights and freedoms gifted you by our forefathers to our children and grandchildren you're part of the problem and (IMO) have no right to consider this your country.
It is no more your place to decide what wars should be fought as it is your place to pick the president
It is no more your place to decide what wars should be fought as it is your place to pick the president
I don't know what country you're in but in this country we DO pick the President.
In theory anyway.
Curious how some wags who would like to claim "patriotism" simultaneously profess a contempt for the First Amendment it's built on.
(Edit: as in the following post. Perfect example
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Unkotare
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That's because you're nothing, you're nobody; a worthless, empty shell where there should be a human being.
Spiderman
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The undeclared war in the middle east is doing nothing to protect our freedoms because neither iraq nor afghanistan posed a real threat to us.
And I think the people have the responsibility to disobey the government if the government is engaged in unjust wars. I will not murder innocent people merely because my government tells me to.
Tell me all of all the people we have killed in Iraq and Afghanistan how many of them were actually a threat to American citizens?
They have no Navy to speak of, no air force to speak of no way to mount any meaningful attack on this country.
I'll pose the same questions for any other undeclared war we have waged.
We are talking about war so encompassing as to require a draft no war since WWII has been worthy of a draft because no war since then has been in response to a legitimate threat to America.
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And yet you feel the need to keep responding to my posts. Do me a favor little drone and put me on ignore.
See you can do that because you were told to. No thought required just the way you like it.
Unkotare
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YOU need to be reminded of what you aren't. Maybe someday, by some magic, you'll turn in to a real human being.
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