If You Can Automatically Be Registered For the Draft....Can't they Also Automatically Register You to Vote?

[candycorn]

THere is no Draft. Nixon ended that.

ok.

 

[pknopp]

why dont you just say if they are in combat your support ends....

If they are actually protecting the country I would support it.

 

[Couchpotato]

Huh?

How are we registering people for the Draft without seeing their ID or a background check come to think about it.

There is no background check to register for the draft. There is also no id requirement. Registration for selective service doesn’t put you in boot camp.

Seems like having a mentally ill or hell, a radicalized Muslim HS student in boot camp with live ammo might be worse than having someone registered to vote. Given the number of campus killers being of HS age...it's not exactly outside the realm of possibility. Kegsbreath and Mara-Lard-Ass didn't give this any thought at all...what else is new.

WTF are you babbling about?

But anyway...if you can automatically register someone to fight for the nation because they achieved a certain age; you can do the same for voting.

 

[IM2]

one is a statute [mandatory] and the other is a right..."automatic" registration is to deny the option of not registering.

The problem here is that the media and their politicians in Washington felt that the old system [one they previously advocated for] allowed the sons and daughters of the rich and powerful to opt out of military service while the less well-off saw it as a lifeboat...this has/had become abhorrent to them for some reason.

BS.

 

[IM2]

Thanks to the left, not much. Of course, we don't have taliban training camps anymore, nor Osama bin Duckin's.

But that is an incompetence of the Congress, and nothing to do with corporate war waged against the US Military.

The left did not start that war.

 

[Couchpotato]

We don't need to automatically register people to vote....that is not what I am saying at all Hawk!

The data system verifying citizenship used to identify those eligible for the draft, could be used to verify citizenship when registering to vote by State election officials, and also used for vetting existing voter rolls for citizenship.

There now is no need for the SAVE ACT putting the burden and cost of proving citizenship.... by the citizen themselves when registering... because the Election registration Vetters can do so themselves before accepting the registration with this data system being used for the draft to verify citizenship.

You register for the draft via an SSN. There is no vetting process. It’s just a name on a list. It’s frankly odd that there is some separate process to build the draftable list. The Us government already has it at the SSA.

 

[22lcidw]

Huh?

How are we registering people for the Draft without seeing their ID or a background check come to think about it.

Seems like having a mentally ill or hell, a radicalized Muslim HS student in boot camp with live ammo might be worse than having someone registered to vote. Given the number of campus killers being of HS age...it's not exactly outside the realm of possibility. Kegsbreath and Mara-Lard-Ass didn't give this any thought at all...what else is new.

But anyway...if you can automatically register someone to fight for the nation because they achieved a certain age; you can do the same for voting.

Rent a car, go to a motel, fly on a plane, go on a cruise, and so much more. You used to just give cash for all of that without question.

 

[Muhammed]

They won the presidency in 2020 without any massive voter fraud....

Not according to Quid Pro Quo Pedo Joe Biden. He bragged about the massive voter fraud. He bragged about having put together the most extensive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics. Sounds pretty massive. The most massive in history according to Pedo Joe Briben.

 

[candycorn]

There is no background check to register for the draft.

No kidding!

There is also no id requirement.

Sure...give the guy live ammo and a gun...no ID

Registration for selective service doesn’t put you in boot camp.

It does if you're drafted.

 

[candycorn]

Not according to Quid Pro Quo Pedo Joe Biden. He bragged about the massive voter fraud. He bragged about having put together the most extensive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics. Sounds pretty massive. The most massive in history according to Pedo Joe Briben.

Never happened. You know better.

 

[Couchpotato]

No kidding!

Sure...give the guy live ammo and a gun...no ID

They don’t mail you a gun when you register for the draft moron.

It does if you're drafted.

That’s when the vetting happens dumbass.

 

[candycorn]

They don’t mail you a gun when you register for the draft moron.

I never said they did fvck stain.

That’s when the vetting happens dumbass.

And hopefully the vetting gets it 100% right. All of the below are people who wanted to be there and supposedly passed the entrance "vetting".... Can you imagine thousands of guys who don't want to be there?

2009 Fort Hood shooting - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Army sergeant faces June court-martial for Georgia base shootings after pleading to some charges

An Army sergeant accused of shooting and wounding five co-workers at a Georgia base last summer faces a trial by court-martial June 15 after he pleaded guilty to some of the charges against him.

www.wabe.org

https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/Press-Releases/display-pressreleases/Article/2364826/navy-announces-results-from-pearl-harbor-shooting-investigation/

 

[candycorn]

Anyway, the point of the thread is that if we can automatically register people for the draft based on a birthday; we can do the same thing with voter registration. Not that difficult a concept.

The larger issue is that if you're the one who is going to be asked to fight and possibly die, you should have a say-so in the politicians who are sending you to fight and possibly die.

 

[Harry Dresden]

If they are actually protecting the country I would support it.

so you only support them if they are doing what you want them to do....you are an ass knoop...

 

[pknopp]

so you only support them if they are doing what you want them to do....you are an ass knoop...

LOL. Yes, I do not blindly support the military regardless of what they do.

There are military courts to address those of you who do.

 

[Couchpotato]

I never said they did fvck stain.

Fine but you're saying that the process is basically you register and then boom you're in bootcamp with a rifle and ammo. Recruits only have rounds when they are at the rifle range which is over halfway through the bootcamp experience. You don't show up at the depot and they hand you an M-4 and an ammo can. MEPS exists for a reason as does the evaluation the Drill Instructors are doing on recruits all the time.

Seems like having a mentally ill or hell, a radicalized Muslim HS student in boot camp with live ammo might be worse than having someone registered to vote. Given the number of campus killers being of HS age...it's not exactly outside the realm of possibility. Kegsbreath and Mara-Lard-Ass didn't give this any thought at all...what else is new.

And hopefully the vetting gets it 100% right. All of the below are people who wanted to be there and supposedly passed the entrance "vetting".... Can you imagine thousands of guys who don't want to be there?

2009 Fort Hood shooting - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Army sergeant faces June court-martial for Georgia base shootings after pleading to some charges

An Army sergeant accused of shooting and wounding five co-workers at a Georgia base last summer faces a trial by court-martial June 15 after he pleaded guilty to some of the charges against him.

www.wabe.org

https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/Press-Releases/display-pressreleases/Article/2364826/navy-announces-results-from-pearl-harbor-shooting-investigation/

1. No vetting process is ever 100%.

2. Why would there need to be a vetting process as part of the registration for SS? That happens after your number is called in the draft if it's ever called.


People have a bad habit of remembering the dumb shit they post so...

How are we registering people for the Draft without seeing their ID or a background check come to think about it.

No kidding!

Sure...give the guy live ammo and a gun...no ID

Again, MEPS is a thing and it exists for a reason.

It does if you're drafted.

And if your number is called you then go through a vetting process prior to going to bootcamp. Dum dum. Why would the US government go through the cost in time and resources vetting every 18yo male in the US for possible military service via the draft? In case you weren't aware there's no draft on and there hasn't been one for 50+ years. We should have vetted every US male citizen who turned 18 since 73 for military service? Because that's what youre are advocating for.

 

[candycorn]

Fine but you're saying that the process is basically you register and then boom you're in bootcamp with a rifle and ammo. Recruits only have rounds when they are at the rifle range which is over halfway through the bootcamp experience. You don't show up at the depot and they hand you an M-4 and an ammo can. MEPS exists for a reason as does the evaluation the Drill Instructors are doing on recruits all the time.

Seems like you could quote me saying that. I don't think you can.

Anyway...moving on.

 

[Anathema]

On the other hand it could be argued that if you are willing to go off and be killed in a foreign country to ensure corporate profits, you might not be all that bright.

It’s not about what you want. It’s about what you country ask of you. No, that’s not my own philosophy; that was part of the answer I got when I asked my father why he didn’t use his educational exemption to avoid getting drafted for Vietnam.

His response was that his country said it needed him and that was what he should do. Additionally, he felt that if he used the deferment that some other individual would have to go in his place and he didn’t want to potentially have that persons death on his conscience.

 

[pknopp]

It’s not about what you want. It’s about what you country ask of you. No, that’s not my own philosophy; that was part of the answer I got when I asked my father why he didn’t use his educational exemption to avoid getting drafted for Vietnam.

Just doing what I was told is not a good answer.

His response was that his country said it needed him and that was what he should do. Additionally, he felt that if he used the deferment that some other individual would have to go in his place and he didn’t want to potentially have that persons death on his conscience.

Ali had it right.

 

[Care4all]

Because the selective service system is only for men aged 18-25. It would not encompass all men that can vote and not women at all.

Don't you think they have the women citizens as well in their system of identifying citizenship of 18 yr olds?? They may not pull up the women, to auto register them for the draft (for now), but they in my opinion have a system to identify citizens that can be used to also vet registered voters....