Does Anybody Believe the Universities' Line About So-Called "American Imperialism' ?

[OldFlame]

I just saw an episode on Newsmax where a reporter was asking college students if they believe there is American imperialism. If the students answered yes (most did), they were asked to sign a petition to stop it. Quite a few signed the petition.

After signing, the students (apparently victims of heavy indoctrination) were asked to provide an example of where "American imperialism" is going on. now, or over the past 20 years. None were able to respond with a single location.

I wish I would have been that reporter. I would have asked the kids if they knew of the USA being a VICTIM of imperialism. I would have also asked them to provide a definition of "imperialism".

Here are 2 definitions >>

1.

Definition of IMPERIALISM

the policy, practice, or advocacy of extending the power and dominion of a nation especially by direct territorial acquisitions or by gaining indirect control over the political or economic life of other areas; broadly : the extension or imposition of power, authority, or… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

2.

What Is Imperialism?

Imperialism is the policy or act of extending a country’s power into other territories, or gaining control over another country’s politics or economics.

www.thebalance.com

I would have loved to tell these brainwashed students that the US is the #1 VICTIM of imperialism in the world today, and has been for the last 20 years, by the way 21st century imperialism is conducted (migrant remittances).

Remittance flows worldwide in 2017

Worldwide, an estimated $625 billion (USD) was sent by migrants to individuals in their home countries in 2017, a 7% increase from 2016, when the amount was $586 billion, according to economists at the World Bank. This increase follows two consecutive years of decline.

www.pewresearch.org

No doubt the US made mistakes along the way, but we did not slaughter millions in the name of communism or Nazism.

YES we did.
We slaughtered over 3 million innocent Vietnamese over the idiotic label we simply do not understand, "communism".

And yes, the US is the single most Nazi country in the world, by far.
Nazi is short for National Socialist Party, which was totally anti-socialist, and was a oligarchy of the wealthy elite.
That is exactly what the US is, with the same Military Industrial Complex in charge that appointed Hitler.

Says the anti-Semite, when you're not a Jew hater, maybe your opinion regarding Nazism can be taken seriously.

 

[Mac-7]

American universities are being influenced by communist chinese money

We need to ban all mainland chinese students in the STEM subjects from studying in the US

After what China done to million's of the worlds population, they should be left on a Vine to rot. If they have labs creating super viruses, and worse we possibly had a hand in it, then we should use such knowledge learned to end this scourge by commiting to do the right thing going foward. 1st clean up our own mess, then work with China to end any program of mass destruction where any type thing is going on that can inflict this kind of damage to humankind.

I’m not sure I follow you

We cant work with china on deadly virus’ or and other world problem

 

[Donald H]

FALSE!! Al Qaeda hated Saddam since he was too secular and kept them out of Iraq. Under Saddam there would never have been an ISIS. He fought a war with Iran that weakened them. They did not rise again until Saddam was gone.

Where does an American get such factual information?

Also worth mentioning is how Obama handed Syria to Russia and brought relative peace to Syria.

Syria's government and it's people were never going to accept the US and the occupation the US had planned for. Syria is lost to Russia and China, as are Iraq and Afghanistan next.

 

[Donald H]

Says the anti-Semite, when you're not a Jew hater, maybe your opinion regarding Nazism can be taken seriously.

Hating Zionism is equivalent to hating fascism and apartheid.
The Zionist apartheid regime only has credibility with the US now.

 

[Slade3200]

Technological breakthroughs… I’d say the educational and tech advancements from the 60s till now have been enormous. You don’t agree?

Cell phones are good (if you get stuck on the highway). TV pictures are bigger and clearer. Internet & You tube videos are a +. Less people smoking (thank God). Can't think of much else.

How about video conferencing, two day delivery, do it yourself business models like Uber and air bnb, not to mention all the incredible advancements in machinery, tooling, and medical that have been made… need a new hip? How about a heart valve?

Video conferencing.........Our govt. has never heard of it. Sure they talk about it and buy the equipment, but they meet anyway due they're useless and entitled to a good time.

Two day delivery.......Neat, Amazon cornering the market putting small business out of work and reducing wage & opportunity.

Uber and air BNB. Kind of cool really, though only one BNB experience and it was comical. Really pretty neat but does it change the world something important?

Agree machinery however American made generally (not auto anymore unless changed) means quality and American made has taken second chair to Chinese thus the quality substandard. We were better before, but yeah, I like the shit out of my Milwaukee tools, the new batteries are replacing air tools and that's a big bonus.

Agree with medicine to a large extent however because of our advancements people are more lazy, fat, drugged up, and we're far more prone to cancer.

I can go tits and tats all day the why & why nots "advancements". Smart phones among other advancements have dumbed people down, made us far less responsible & less appreciative.

Of course you can tit for tat, theres always a tit. You’re either for advancement or you not. We’ve advance a bunch. Whether you think we are happier or “better off” is entirely up to your world view and personal situation

Advanced in what way exactly, cameras and stuff?

Neat

Just the basic ability to build, create, produce, deliver and provide. Yes there are negative effects as we are a people off excess and not desperation but that’s besides the point

 

[Donald H]

America's Imperialism has been cancelled until further notice, due to China's economic strength and nuclear deterent.

 

[alang1216]

FALSE!! Al Qaeda hated Saddam since he was too secular and kept them out of Iraq. Under Saddam there would never have been an ISIS. He fought a war with Iran that weakened them. They did not rise again until Saddam was gone.

Where does an American get such factual information?

Also worth mentioning is how Obama handed Syria to Russia and brought relative peace to Syria.

Syria's government and it's people were never going to accept the US and the occupation the US had planned for. Syria is lost to Russia and China, as are Iraq and Afghanistan next.

I believe there were Congressional hearings. Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan are lost, but not to China or Russia, to Iran.

 

[Donald H]

I believe there were Congressional hearings. Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan are lost, but not to China or Russia, to Iran.

Iran is just another peaceful nation that has become a part of the China/Russia alliance.

The world's superpowers are heavily involved in a competition over control of the ME's oil resources. Syria is now completely loyal to Russia's and China's interests.

To Obama's credit, he was able to stop his country's progress on the PNAC agenda, with his 'red line' speech on Syria's apparent WMD's. He made an offer to Assad and Putin that couldn't be refused!

Other ME countries and C.American countries are aligning with Russia and China over the US. It's a natural preference of peaceful trade relations, as opposed to US use of military force.
This all bodes well for a more peaceful world in the future.

Those other countries' nuclear deterrent puts the teeth in it that stops further US aggression.

 

[alang1216]

I believe there were Congressional hearings. Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan are lost, but not to China or Russia, to Iran.

Iran is just another peaceful nation that has become a part of the China/Russia alliance.

The world's superpowers are heavily involved in a competition over control of the ME's oil resources. Syria is now completely loyal to Russia's and China's interests.

To Obama's credit, he was able to stop his country's progress on the PNAC agenda, with his 'red line' speech on Syria's apparent WMD's. He made an offer to Assad and Putin that couldn't be refused!

Other ME countries and C.American countries are aligning with Russia and China over the US. It's a natural preference of peaceful trade relations, as opposed to US use of military force.
This all bodes well for a more peaceful world in the future.

Those other countries' nuclear deterrent puts the teeth in it that stops further US aggression.

You had me until you wrote "Iran is just another peaceful nation...".

 

[protectionist]

America's Imperialism has been cancelled until further notice, due to China's economic strength and nuclear deterent.

China is the imperialist. US is the victim. Been that way for a long time.

 

[protectionist]

Iran is just another peaceful nation that has become a part of the China/Russia alliance.

Iran is anything but peaceful. Iran attacks other countries (notably Israel) through proxies, and is close to full development of a nuclear bomb/arsenal. Could be just a matter of weeks.

Nuclear attack against Israel is likely, if Israel does not strike first. Nuclear attack against the USA is likely also, as Biden has neither the brains or guts to stop it.

 

[protectionist]

We're an empire

Have known that since john quincy adams

Eisenhower was one of the greatest of the empire's leaders.

For us to be an "empire" would require that we be conducting imperialism somewhere in the world. In 300+ posts in this thread, no one has been able to show a single country where the US is doing that. US is not an empire.

Eisenhower saved the world from Nazism.

 

[protectionist]

You think you are right. Just like you did before. Can’t trust that

What can't you trust ? What do you disagree with ?

 

[Slade3200]

You think you are right. Just like you did before. Can’t trust that

What can't you trust ? What do you disagree with ?

If you've admitted to being brainwashed for decades then you have to accept the possibility that you are susceptible to being brainwashed and thus what you think is real now isn't actually real. Maybe in 5 years you have another lightbulb moment and realize that what you believe now was due to you being brainwashed yet again. Something that to a person like me is obviously the case with you.

 

[Juicin]

We're an empire

Have known that since john quincy adams

Eisenhower was one of the greatest of the empire's leaders.

For us to be an "empire" would require that we be conducting imperialism somewhere in the world. In 300+ posts in this thread, no one has been able to show a single country where the US is doing that. US is not an empire.

Eisenhower saved the world from Nazism.

What did you think expansion over a whole fucking continent is?

Hawaii?

The Samoans?

Puerto Rico?

The Philippines?

What we no doubt would have loved to do to Cuba.

The list goes on and on. What you're describing is colonialism not imperialism. And we have colonies. We are most certainly an empire.

 

[Donald H]

Iran is anything but peaceful. Iran attacks other countries (notably Israel) through proxies, and is close to full development of a nuclear bomb/arsenal. Could be just a matter of weeks.

Nuclear attack against Israel is likely, if Israel does not strike first. Nuclear attack against the USA is likely also, as Biden has neither the brains or guts to stop it.

Actually, Iran supports the side of 'right' and 'justice' by taking the side against the Zionist apartheid regime and the criminal US support of it.

When or 'if' Iran obtains it's own nuclear weapons, those weapons will only be a deterrent to US and Zionist aggression.

But I'm now thinking that Iran is already safe under China's and Russia's nuclear deterrents.

US influence grows weaker because of it's criminal support of the evil Zionist apartheid regime, and in the last attack on the Palestinian people, the US was left standing alone in it's support of evil against Palestinians.

Zionist expansion onto Palestinian territory must be stopped before it causes a nuclear world war, not just use of nuclear weapons in the region.

 

[protectionist]

When or 'if' Iran obtains it's own nuclear weapons, those weapons will only be a deterrent to US and Zionist aggression.

But I'm now thinking that Iran is already safe under China's and Russia's nuclear deterrents.

US influence grows weaker because of it's criminal support of the evil Zionist apartheid regime, and in the last attack on the Palestinian people, the US was left standing alone in it's support of evil against Palestinians.

Zionist expansion onto Palestinian territory must be stopped before it causes a nuclear world war, not just use of nuclear weapons in the region.

Bullshit. Zionism is a perfectly legitimate idea. About the only thing wrong with it is that it only sees current day Israel as the Jewish homeland, when it probably really ought to be most of the whole Middle East.

Muslims control over 90% of the middle east, and much of it was stolen from Christians and Jews by marauding Muslims for 100s of years, based on the imperialist lunacies of the Koran.

The Palestinians can go shit in their raggy hats. They only insist on their so called Palestine, as away of fomenting hate against Israel, as their nutjob Koran tells them to do, and their not smart enough to disregard it. Their homeland is Jordan, where the majority of the population are Palestinians.

Since the 2006 parliamentary election which was won by Hamas, the State of Palestine, the Palestinian Authority, or whatever anybody wants to all it, has been a operative of state terrorism, as we see happening currently. if anybody doubts the aggressor character of the Palestinians, they may consider this >>>>

If the Palestinians dumped all their weapons into the sea, there would be peace.
If Israel dumped all it weapons into the sea, they would be annihilated.

I have zero sympathy for the Palestinians. Same with Iran.

BTW, this new format in USMB is HORRIBLE. Please go back to the much better way it was before.

 

[protectionist]

What did you think expansion over a whole fucking continent is?
Hawaii? The Samoans? Puerto Rico? The Philippines?
What we no doubt would have loved to do to Cuba.
The list goes on and on. What you're describing is colonialism not imperialism. And we have colonies. We are most certainly an empire.

Can you read ? If so, read Post # 312 which refuted your Post # 315, before you wrote it. You wrote the same thing that other posters wrote a few days before you, and they were refuted then.

Now go wash your mouth out with soap.

 

[protectionist]

If you've admitted to being brainwashed for decades then you have to accept the possibility that you are susceptible to being brainwashed and thus what you think is real now isn't actually real. Maybe in 5 years you have another lightbulb moment and realize that what you believe now was due to you being brainwashed yet again. Something that to a person like me is obviously the case with you.

I have to do no such thing. You're just gimmicking with words, and not doing a very good job of it.

 

[Dadoalex]

I just saw an episode on Newsmax where a reporter was asking college students if they believe there is American imperialism. If the students answered yes (most did), they were asked to sign a petition to stop it. Quite a few signed the petition.

After signing, the students (apparently victims of heavy indoctrination) were asked to provide an example of where "American imperialism" is going on. now, or over the past 20 years. None were able to respond with a single location.

I wish I would have been that reporter. I would have asked the kids if they knew of the USA being a VICTIM of imperialism. I would have also asked them to provide a definition of "imperialism".

Here are 2 definitions >>

1.

Definition of IMPERIALISM

the policy, practice, or advocacy of extending the power and dominion of a nation especially by direct territorial acquisitions or by gaining indirect control over the political or economic life of other areas; broadly : the extension or imposition of power, authority, or… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

2.

What Is Imperialism?

Imperialism is the policy or act of extending a country’s power into other territories, or gaining control over another country’s politics or economics.

www.thebalance.com

I would have loved to tell these brainwashed students that the US is the #1 VICTIM of imperialism in the world today, and has been for the last 20 years, by the way 21st century imperialism is conducted (migrant remittances).

Remittance flows worldwide in 2017

Worldwide, an estimated $625 billion (USD) was sent by migrants to individuals in their home countries in 2017, a 7% increase from 2016, when the amount was $586 billion, according to economists at the World Bank. This increase follows two consecutive years of decline.

www.pewresearch.org

BWAHAHAHAHA

Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Korea

And that's just off the top.