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Does Anybody Believe the Universities' Line About So-Called "American Imperialism' ?

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Those things that I listed are diplomacy, you are correct. Do you somehow think that diplomacy is not a means to imperialism?!
This thread is about imperialism, not a "means to imperialism"

1000 things could be a means to imperialism. They are not imperialism, and so far no one in this thread has shown where/how the US is currently engaged in imperialism. Not one post.
Here I will give you a real life recent example. Keep your lid on cause I know you’re gonna be conflicted about how to respond.

Let’s look at Ukraine. How did Biden get a foreign country to fire one of their own Special Prosecutors? Explain to me how that is not imperialism, an exertion of power that we held over that country.

We had the power to do this because of the things I listed which you just tried to dismiss.
 

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I don't debate the obvious facts with petulant and childish spammers. The facts are already stated in my previous statements.
HA HA. No rookie. You need to do a lot better than that. Just naming a few countries does not SHOW how imperialism is being conducted. There is nothing "obvious" here, because there is nothing here insofar as claiming the US to be currently imperialistic.

You stated NO FACTS whatsoever, and regarding "debate" you have not begun to do that yet either. Some other posters have attempted (laughably) to portray the US as imperialistic, and failed, and you haven't even offered as much as them,. :rolleyes:
I've accepted your new definition of 'imperialism' as being those who receive money from America.
What more needs to be said about that? LOL
 

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The issue has been settled. America turns other countries into imperialist nations by giving them money.
 
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Countries that take money from America are imperialist! Credibility with only the hillbillies isn't going to quite do it.
You sound like an Alabama native who is married to his sister/wife.
But you've provided an entirely new definition for imperialism! You must be right!
You sound like a BIGOT, who has no aversion to displaying his BIGOTRY against Alabamans. You just insulted 5 million people. Apology warranted.

As for the definition of imperialism, it's in the OP. You have your people going into another country, and they taking out large amounts of its wealth, you got imperialism. USA # 1 victim in the world. And there's nothing "entirely new" about this definition. Been around since the Roman empire, and before even that.
 

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Countries that take money from America are imperialist! Credibility with only the hillbillies isn't going to quite do it.
Looks like the "hillbillies" have got you beat. TAKING MONEY is what imperialism is. What do you think the Vikings were ? Philanthropists? You're getting an education.
Why do you reply with petty name calling instead of actually making a counter argument? If you want to make somebody look stupid then do so with smart arguments. Calling them a dummy does nothing. Nobody cares
 

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The university indoctrination?! I’m 20 years out of university, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Sounds like it’s your propaganda news indoctrination kicking in as you jump to name calling instead of real debate.

we are imperialistic all over the world in almost every major country. We give millions of dollars, have embassies, military bases and even troops helping to fight wars and train other countries militaries.


Fool. That is not imperialism. You are brainwashed. Just because a country has personnel in another country (even military) doesn't make it imperialism. "embassies, military bases and even troops helping to fight wars and train other countries militaries" is all a subject apart from imperialism.

The US having embassies is diplomacy, not imperialism. There are US troops and military bases in other countries who have requested them to be there, and are happy to have the protection that they bring. Looks like I have to repeat myself (Post # 96) over and over in this thread, since so many brainwashed people and coming here with the same brainwashing >

From Post # 96>>
1. Protection for allied countries. (ex. Japan has no military at all. US military IS the Japanese military)
2. Military training supplied to allied countries. (for their benefit)
3. Prevention of hostilities from previous wartime enemies (ex. still has bases in Germany and Japan) Pro-American post-war govts have generally welcomed the bases, as economically beneficial.
4. Financial arrangements (ex. some countries buy US military equipment)
5. Host country wished to improve diplomatic relations, so they ask for the base to be there.
6. Other countries would also have overseas bases, but they cannot afford it.

And "give millions of dollars" isn't imperialism. TAKING it is. As Mexico, China, India, Phillipines, Vietnam, Guatemala, et al TAKE from us, making the US the # 1 VICTIM of imperialism in the world today > $150+ Billion/year lost in remittances (21st century imperialism)

Yes, you are still under the influence of you university indoctrinators. And 20 years ain't squat. I was still calling the US an imperialist country (in addition to voting for Democrats) 40 years after attending college, until I finally get free of the programming in 2009, and became conservative and clear-minded.
You have issues with the basic meaning of words. That’s your issue. I see you make the same mistakes with the words socialist and communist…. Those things that I listed are diplomacy, you are correct. Do you somehow think that diplomacy is not a means to imperialism?!
If the US was Imperialistic, all of the countries where we have personnel would be referred to as US colonies.
 

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Countries that take money from America are imperialist! Credibility with only the hillbillies isn't going to quite do it.
Looks like the "hillbillies" have got you beat. TAKING MONEY is what imperialism is. What do you think the Vikings were ? Philanthropists? You're getting an education.
Why do you reply with petty name calling instead of actually making a counter argument? If you want to make somebody look stupid then do so with smart arguments. Calling them a dummy does nothing. Nobody cares
You sound like an Alabama native who is married to his sister/wife.

Interesting that you did not post the same in response to Donald's post.
 
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The issue has been settled. America turns other countries into imperialist nations by giving them money.
Wrong. America doesn't turn other countries into imperialist nations by giving them money. They turn themselves into imperialist countries by their people coming here and TAKING US economy money.

They are imperialist by taking money out of our economy, and transferring it to theirs.

 

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The issue has been settled. America turns other countries into imperialist nations by giving them money.
Wrong. America doesn't turn other countries into imperialist nations by giving them money. They turn themselves into imperialist countries by their people coming here and TAKING US economy money.

They are imperialist by taking money out of our economy, and transferring it to theirs.

Just as you couldn't be convinced that you shouldn't marry your sister, you continue with this invention of other countries being the imperialists.

We'll end this nonsense now.
 
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Countries that take money from America are imperialist! Credibility with only the hillbillies isn't going to quite do it.
You sound like an Alabama native who is married to his sister/wife.

Interesting that you did not post the same in response to Donald's post.
Right. Because I'm not bigoted, like he is.
 

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The issue has been settled. America turns other countries into imperialist nations by giving them money.
Wrong. America doesn't turn other countries into imperialist nations by giving them money. They turn themselves into imperialist countries by their people coming here and TAKING US economy money.

They are imperialist by taking money out of our economy, and transferring it to theirs.

The issue has been settled. America turns other countries into imperialist nations by giving them money.
Wrong. America doesn't turn other countries into imperialist nations by giving them money. They turn themselves into imperialist countries by their people coming here and TAKING US economy money.

They are imperialist by taking money out of our economy, and transferring it to theirs.

Just as you couldn't be convinced that you shouldn't marry your sister, you continue with this invention of other countries being the imperialists.

We'll end this nonsense now.
Other nations are not Imperialist, they are bloodsuckers.
 

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Countries that take money from America are imperialist! Credibility with only the hillbillies isn't going to quite do it.
You sound like an Alabama native who is married to his sister/wife.

Interesting that you did not post the same in response to Donald's post.
Right. Because I'm not bigoted, like he is.
I can tell you from personal experience in my community that it is pointless to engage in a discussion with Liberals as they are insane.
 

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The issue has been settled. America turns other countries into imperialist nations by giving them money.
Wrong. America doesn't turn other countries into imperialist nations by giving them money. They turn themselves into imperialist countries by their people coming here and TAKING US economy money.

They are imperialist by taking money out of our economy, and transferring it to theirs.

The issue has been settled. America turns other countries into imperialist nations by giving them money.
Wrong. America doesn't turn other countries into imperialist nations by giving them money. They turn themselves into imperialist countries by their people coming here and TAKING US economy money.

They are imperialist by taking money out of our economy, and transferring it to theirs.

Just as you couldn't be convinced that you shouldn't marry your sister, you continue with this invention of other countries being the imperialists.

We'll end this nonsense now.
Other nations are not Imperialist, they are bloodsuckers.
You're already disqualified.
If I comment further on this hocus-pocus shit, you can follow along with your finger and then try to pull some out of your ass to fling at the board.
 
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Just as you couldn't be convinced that you shouldn't marry your sister, you continue with this invention of other countries being the imperialists.

We'll end this nonsense now.
What you call "invention", everyone else in the world calls "definition" (which has clearly been noted in this thread, since the OP)
 
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I can tell you from personal experience in my community that it is pointless to engage in a discussion with Liberals as they are insane.
They are quite showing that in this thread.
 
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You're already disqualified.
If I comment further on this hocus-pocus shit, you can follow along with your finger and then try to pull some out of your ass to fling at the board.
Aren't we lucky to have this new poster among our ranks, with such charming and aesthetic exposition ? :rolleyes:
 

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The issue has been settled. America turns other countries into imperialist nations by giving them money.
Wrong. America doesn't turn other countries into imperialist nations by giving them money. They turn themselves into imperialist countries by their people coming here and TAKING US economy money.

They are imperialist by taking money out of our economy, and transferring it to theirs.

The issue has been settled. America turns other countries into imperialist nations by giving them money.
Wrong. America doesn't turn other countries into imperialist nations by giving them money. They turn themselves into imperialist countries by their people coming here and TAKING US economy money.

They are imperialist by taking money out of our economy, and transferring it to theirs.

Just as you couldn't be convinced that you shouldn't marry your sister, you continue with this invention of other countries being the imperialists.

We'll end this nonsense now.
Other nations are not Imperialist, they are bloodsuckers.
You're already disqualified.
If I comment further on this hocus-pocus shit, you can follow along with your finger and then try to pull some out of your ass to fling at the board.
You, for example, post ad hominems in response to every post that disagrees with you; hence, you are highly emotional and have no facts to back up your "opinions".
 

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The university indoctrination?! I’m 20 years out of university, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Sounds like it’s your propaganda news indoctrination kicking in as you jump to name calling instead of real debate.

we are imperialistic all over the world in almost every major country. We give millions of dollars, have embassies, military bases and even troops helping to fight wars and train other countries militaries.


Fool. That is not imperialism. You are brainwashed. Just because a country has personnel in another country (even military) doesn't make it imperialism. "embassies, military bases and even troops helping to fight wars and train other countries militaries" is all a subject apart from imperialism.

The US having embassies is diplomacy, not imperialism. There are US troops and military bases in other countries who have requested them to be there, and are happy to have the protection that they bring. Looks like I have to repeat myself (Post # 96) over and over in this thread, since so many brainwashed people and coming here with the same brainwashing >

From Post # 96>>
1. Protection for allied countries. (ex. Japan has no military at all. US military IS the Japanese military)
2. Military training supplied to allied countries. (for their benefit)
3. Prevention of hostilities from previous wartime enemies (ex. still has bases in Germany and Japan) Pro-American post-war govts have generally welcomed the bases, as economically beneficial.
4. Financial arrangements (ex. some countries buy US military equipment)
5. Host country wished to improve diplomatic relations, so they ask for the base to be there.
6. Other countries would also have overseas bases, but they cannot afford it.

And "give millions of dollars" isn't imperialism. TAKING it is. As Mexico, China, India, Phillipines, Vietnam, Guatemala, et al TAKE from us, making the US the # 1 VICTIM of imperialism in the world today > $150+ Billion/year lost in remittances (21st century imperialism)

Yes, you are still under the influence of you university indoctrinators. And 20 years ain't squat. I was still calling the US an imperialist country (in addition to voting for Democrats) 40 years after attending college, until I finally get free of the programming in 2009, and became conservative and clear-minded.
You have issues with the basic meaning of words. That’s your issue. I see you make the same mistakes with the words socialist and communist…. Those things that I listed are diplomacy, you are correct. Do you somehow think that diplomacy is not a means to imperialism?!
If the US was Imperialistic, all of the countries where we have personnel would be referred to as US colonies.
Why’s that?
 

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Countries that take money from America are imperialist! Credibility with only the hillbillies isn't going to quite do it.
Looks like the "hillbillies" have got you beat. TAKING MONEY is what imperialism is. What do you think the Vikings were ? Philanthropists? You're getting an education.
Why do you reply with petty name calling instead of actually making a counter argument? If you want to make somebody look stupid then do so with smart arguments. Calling them a dummy does nothing. Nobody cares
You sound like an Alabama native who is married to his sister/wife.

Interesting that you did not post the same in response to Donald's post.
I didn’t write that smart guy
 

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Countries that take money from America are imperialist! Credibility with only the hillbillies isn't going to quite do it.
Looks like the "hillbillies" have got you beat. TAKING MONEY is what imperialism is. What do you think the Vikings were ? Philanthropists? You're getting an education.
Why do you reply with petty name calling instead of actually making a counter argument? If you want to make somebody look stupid then do so with smart arguments. Calling them a dummy does nothing. Nobody cares
You sound like an Alabama native who is married to his sister/wife.

Interesting that you did not post the same in response to Donald's post.
I didn’t write that smart guy
Interesting that you did not post the same in response to Donald's post.
 

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