Democrats: You're not there yet.

[Ray From Cleveland]

Neither is mine. But again, if you were as sick as you say you are, then the government was correct in pulling you off the road.

No, the government should have left that decision to my personal doctors. But as I said earlier, you can now feel safe with me off the road driving next to those foreigners who never took our test to drive a tractor-trailer, that don't know word of English to read our road signs.

Good job government.

Actually, if you are only setting your sites on Min Wage jobs, that's on you. It's pretty easy to transition to other lines of work with a well-written resumes, I've helped people do it hundreds of times. I've helped people who have been out of the workforce for years because they were stay at home parents. This nonsense that "I can't possibly find a job outside of trucking" is an excuse, but you are full of them.

It's something I've spent my life doing, and there is really no associated job that pays a living wage. Stay at home parent??? Come on now. If somebody is getting back into the workforce from a stay at home parent, they are a hell of a lot younger than me. If they had a profession they just need to brush up on, sure, it's not too much of a problem.

Resumes don't do crap for anybody. You can pat yourself on the back all you like, but employers see through the BS that's as transparent as plastic wrap. Hell, if I seen one of those resumes, and interviewed the applicant, I could point out the BS on that thing, and I'm only a truck driver.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

But will they? A lot of these small businesses aren't going to reopen regardless, should they get a check?

A lot of them have already fired their current staff and hire new staff for less money. Should they get a check?

First off you are making that up. You don't know of any business that's doing that. If they wanted to replace workers for less money, they would have done that before the virus.

It may not save every business, but the hope is it will save most. The longer this goes on, the less that's likely to happen. Small businesses are Americas top employers.

I could care less what anyone on Faux News has to say.

Not even an infectious disease specialist? Of course you don't care what they have to say; like putting a cross in front of Dracula.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I watch her show religiously (unless there is a guest host) and I don't recall that. But if she did, it was early on when nobody realized how bad this problem could get.

When was this? We all knew this was going to be bad months ago, but Trump dithered and called it a hoax and his allies on Faux News downplayed it until the bodies started piling up.

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No, we didn't all know that. The CDC didn't know that. The FDA didn't know that. Homeland Security didn't know that. Nobody knew. Did the leftists hope it would? I'm sure they did. They knew that had no chance at the White House with our roaring economy, especially since their candidate is a confused creepy hair sniffer.

 

[JoeB131]

No, the government should have left that decision to my personal doctors. But as I said earlier, you can now feel safe with me off the road driving next to those foreigners who never took our test to drive a tractor-trailer, that don't know word of English to read our road signs.

Good job government.

Our road signs are already designed for illiterates... That's why they are different shapes and colors.

Point is, you were either too sick to drive or you weren't. If you are, then the government was perfectly right to pull you off. If you aren't, then you are malingering and collecting a welfare check you aren't entitled to.

It's something I've spent my life doing, and there is really no associated job that pays a living wage. Stay at home parent??? Come on now. If somebody is getting back into the workforce from a stay at home parent, they are a hell of a lot younger than me. If they had a profession they just need to brush up on, sure, it's not too much of a problem.

Wait a minute, are you admitting that Minimum Wage isn't a living wage? Then why do you support a party that allows companies to pay employees below a living wage?

Resumes don't do crap for anybody. You can pat yourself on the back all you like, but employers see through the BS that's as transparent as plastic wrap. Hell, if I seen one of those resumes, and interviewed the applicant, I could point out the BS on that thing, and I'm only a truck driver.

Again, you probably don't understand the process. Here's the first thing you get wrong. Most employers don't read the resume, they let computer programs sort them. I had a very amusing incident where a company that downsized me in 2001 called me for an interview in 2012, because the keywords made my resume pop and they didn't bother to read past the first two entries.

First off you are making that up. You don't know of any business that's doing that. If they wanted to replace workers for less money, they would have done that before the virus.

Quite the reverse, when unemployment was low, employees had the upper hand in salary negotiations. During recessions, Companies fire the people they hired for too much money and then try to hire new people at less money. That's exactly what happened with that company in 2001. By 2002, they were advertising the same positions they downsized in 2001, but they had no interest in bringing back the people they let go.

So here's a crazy idea. Let's make a layoff an actual layoff. When you let people go for economic reasons, they should be required by law to get the first offer. Businesses will scream if we ever made that a law.

It may not save every business, but the hope is it will save most. The longer this goes on, the less that's likely to happen. Small businesses are Americas top employers.

They are also the shittiest people to work for. First company I joined when I got out of the army, shitty pay, shitty benefits, high attrition rate. Nope, not going to see me weep for small businesses who got "Darwined" out of the economy by Covid-19.

Not even an infectious disease specialist? Of course you don't care what they have to say; like putting a cross in front of Dracula.

Again, if they are on Faux News, nothing they have to say interests me. They've already whored out their professional credibility.

 

[JoeB131]

No, we didn't all know that. The CDC didn't know that. The FDA didn't know that. Homeland Security didn't know that. Nobody knew. Did the leftists hope it would? I'm sure they did. They knew that had no chance at the White House with our roaring economy, especially since their candidate is a confused creepy hair sniffer.

Biden was leading Trump before the economy collapsed. He was leading him in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Arizona. That would have been more than enough to win.

Now that the economy is collapsing, Trump will be lucky if he can hold on to Texas.

 

[rightwinger]

Fact: Many drugs are used for other things they are not designed for.
Fact: There are doctors using the drug and are seeing positive results, in fact in France their case studies are very promising. So you idea that "all the doctors say" is an out and out lie.

The fact you are back to your childish name calling is more proof you were embarrassed and wrong.

Stalker-Georgio, you can go on and on about "Doctors in France", but Doctors in this country are saying don't do it.

I posted the articles... this is quackery...

Only your leftist doctors are saying that.

Isn’t Ingraham the one who denied there was a problem and that Liberals were overreacting?

I watch her show religiously (unless there is a guest host) and I don't recall that. But if she did, it was early on when nobody realized how bad this problem could get.

I’m sure you watch all the RW media moguls
Want to see what they had to say about the TRUMPvirus?

 

[rightwinger]

No, we didn't all know that. The CDC didn't know that. The FDA didn't know that. Homeland Security didn't know that. Nobody knew. Did the leftists hope it would? I'm sure they did. They knew that had no chance at the White House with our roaring economy, especially since their candidate is a confused creepy hair sniffer.

Biden was leading Trump before the economy collapsed. He was leading him in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Arizona. That would have been more than enough to win.

Now that the economy is collapsing, Trump will be lucky if he can hold on to Texas.

This economic collapse is going to get much, much worse.

Could any President get re-elected with such an economy?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Fact: Many drugs are used for other things they are not designed for.
Fact: There are doctors using the drug and are seeing positive results, in fact in France their case studies are very promising. So you idea that "all the doctors say" is an out and out lie.

The fact you are back to your childish name calling is more proof you were embarrassed and wrong.

Stalker-Georgio, you can go on and on about "Doctors in France", but Doctors in this country are saying don't do it.

I posted the articles... this is quackery...

Only your leftist doctors are saying that.

Isn’t Ingraham the one who denied there was a problem and that Liberals were overreacting?

I watch her show religiously (unless there is a guest host) and I don't recall that. But if she did, it was early on when nobody realized how bad this problem could get.

I’m sure you watch all the RW media moguls
Want to see what they had to say about the TRUMPvirus?

No, Laura is the only one I watch faithfully. I may turn it on when nothing else is on television to watch like Sunday afternoon or evening, depending on how much I have recoded. I like a couple of the shows on HGTV.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No, we didn't all know that. The CDC didn't know that. The FDA didn't know that. Homeland Security didn't know that. Nobody knew. Did the leftists hope it would? I'm sure they did. They knew that had no chance at the White House with our roaring economy, especially since their candidate is a confused creepy hair sniffer.

Biden was leading Trump before the economy collapsed. He was leading him in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Arizona. That would have been more than enough to win.

Now that the economy is collapsing, Trump will be lucky if he can hold on to Texas.

In your mind. Nobody but the left is blaming Donald Trump for a worldwide pandemic that simply wasn't stoppable. And nobody cares what the left thinks because they would vote against him anyhow. They are irrelevant.

It's likely by November, we will be on the upswing with all this. Plenty of N-95 masks to go around, one month closer to a vaccine, plenty of test kits for the entire population to see who is not capable of catching this thing, stock market recovering, and tens of thousands immune since they already had the virus.

 

[rightwinger]

Fact: Many drugs are used for other things they are not designed for.
Fact: There are doctors using the drug and are seeing positive results, in fact in France their case studies are very promising. So you idea that "all the doctors say" is an out and out lie.

The fact you are back to your childish name calling is more proof you were embarrassed and wrong.

Stalker-Georgio, you can go on and on about "Doctors in France", but Doctors in this country are saying don't do it.

I posted the articles... this is quackery...

Only your leftist doctors are saying that.

Isn’t Ingraham the one who denied there was a problem and that Liberals were overreacting?

I watch her show religiously (unless there is a guest host) and I don't recall that. But if she did, it was early on when nobody realized how bad this problem could get.

I’m sure you watch all the RW media moguls
Want to see what they had to say about the TRUMPvirus?

No, Laura is the only one I watch faithfully. I may turn it on when nothing else is on television to watch like Sunday afternoon or evening, depending on how much I have recoded. I like a couple of the shows on HGTV.

With the exception of Tucker Carlson, who warned about the seriousness of the TRUMPvirus early, the RW media was unanimous in declaring the virus to be an overstated threat that would quickly go away with little impact.

President Trump was the main cheerleader

 

[JoeB131]

In your mind. Nobody but the left is blaming Donald Trump for a worldwide pandemic that simply wasn't stoppable. And nobody cares what the left thinks because they would vote against him anyhow. They are irrelevant.

It's likely by November, we will be on the upswing with all this. Plenty of N-95 masks to go around, one month closer to a vaccine, plenty of test kits for the entire population to see who is not capable of catching this thing, stock market recovering, and tens of thousands immune since they already had the virus.

Sunshine and puppies...

So let's concede that Q1 and Q2 will be negative economic growth, indicating a recession.

Let's also concede that MAYBE Q3 might be an upswing.

So what?

For Poppy Bush, the "recession" was officially over in Q1 of 1992. They still voted him out.

For Jimmy Carter, the recession was officially over in July 1980. He still got voted out on his can.

If a recession breaks out on your watch, you need a lot more daylight than one good quarter or even one good year. Mostly because indicators like unemployment tend to be lagging indicators.

With 16 million unemployed, (so far) unemployment will spike at 10% in April, and that might not be the end of it.

It won't get better by November, and that assumes we won't have a second outbreak of Covid in the fall, like we usually do with diseases of this type.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Our road signs are already designed for illiterates... That's why they are different shapes and colors.

Point is, you were either too sick to drive or you weren't. If you are, then the government was perfectly right to pull you off. If you aren't, then you are malingering and collecting a welfare check you aren't entitled to.

No, our signs are not designed for everybody. If a foreigner has to get off on a certain exit, and doesn't understand English or numbers, he or she doesn't know they have to get off, and swerve across four lanes of highway because their GPS in their language told them they were coming up on the exit the last second.

I'm too sick to drive using government standards. I can still do my job according to my doctors standards.

Wait a minute, are you admitting that Minimum Wage isn't a living wage? Then why do you support a party that allows companies to pay employees below a living wage?

Because those are starter jobs. I worked several minimum wage jobs when I got out of school. In fact, one is what started me off into truck driving. When did I ever say that minimum wage was a livable wage? I never once said that. I know it's not a livable wage.

It's not the federal governments role to determine wages for employees in a free country. You might find that under a dictatorship or communist country, but not here. What the federal government is supposed to provide it's citizens are outlined in the US Constitution.

Again, you probably don't understand the process. Here's the first thing you get wrong. Most employers don't read the resume, they let computer programs sort them. I had a very amusing incident where a company that downsized me in 2001 called me for an interview in 2012, because the keywords made my resume pop and they didn't bother to read past the first two entries.

So what good is it to go to a job that's not going to hire you anyway after the interview? It's a waste of their time and yours.

Quite the reverse, when unemployment was low, employees had the upper hand in salary negotiations. During recessions, Companies fire the people they hired for too much money and then try to hire new people at less money. That's exactly what happened with that company in 2001. By 2002, they were advertising the same positions they downsized in 2001, but they had no interest in bringing back the people they let go.

So here's a crazy idea. Let's make a layoff an actual layoff. When you let people go for economic reasons, they should be required by law to get the first offer. Businesses will scream if we ever made that a law.

I'm sure most businesses do that already. The problem is, a lot of laid off employees won't wait to be called back by their employer, and find a job with somebody else. Of course an employer will not pay a newbie the same money you made working at a company for five or ten years. They have to be trained to do that job.

They are also the shittiest people to work for. First company I joined when I got out of the army, shitty pay, shitty benefits, high attrition rate. Nope, not going to see me weep for small businesses who got "Darwined" out of the economy by Covid-19.

Since they are our largest employer, we need to do what we can to salvage as many companies as possible. Small business is generally defined as 500 employees or less. So if we allow a company to close down that has 450 employees, that's a lot of people. If we allow hundreds or thousands of companies with 450 employees to close up, that's a catastrophe.

You are thinking small business as in Green Care Lawn company, or Mikes Machine Shop. Those places will likely not make it because most small businesses close up within five years even during an average economy.

 

[JoeB131]

No, our signs are not designed for everybody. If a foreigner has to get off on a certain exit, and doesn't understand English or numbers, he or she doesn't know they have to get off, and swerve across four lanes of highway because their GPS in their language told them they were coming up on the exit the last second.

Numbers are pretty much universal, buddy. Most trucks have GPS systems that tell people where to turn or directions.

Because those are starter jobs. I worked several minimum wage jobs when I got out of school. In fact, one is what started me off into truck driving. When did I ever say that minimum wage was a livable wage? I never once said that. I know it's not a livable wage.

Then we need to fix that. Most of our problems are that too many people don't make a living wage... This economic crash is going to emphasize that problem.

It's not the federal governments role to determine wages for employees in a free country. You might find that under a dictatorship or communist country, but not here. What the federal government is supposed to provide it's citizens are outlined in the US Constitution.

Um, yeah. We tried that... we are in the mess we are in now. Trump just signed off on 2 Trillion in socialism and rigging the economic game in favor of businesses. We're all Socialists now. Sing it, buddy!

So what good is it to go to a job that's not going to hire you anyway after the interview? It's a waste of their time and yours.

Who says they won't hire you? Heck, I think that guy probably would have hired me even after finding out I worked for them before. I was the one who said "No thanks," because it was an awful company.

All the resume does is get you the interview. Hit the right keywords, be concise, show achievements, you get the interview. The rest is on you.

I'm sure most businesses do that already. The problem is, a lot of laid off employees won't wait to be called back by their employer, and find a job with somebody else. Of course an employer will not pay a newbie the same money you made working at a company for five or ten years. They have to be trained to do that job.

The only time I've seen it is if someone was related to someone, and they got called back.

Since they are our largest employer, we need to do what we can to salvage as many companies as possible. Small business is generally defined as 500 employees or less. So if we allow a company to close down that has 450 employees, that's a lot of people. If we allow hundreds or thousands of companies with 450 employees to close up, that's a catastrophe.

Again, you just said in this VERY THREAD, that's not one of the duties of the Federal Government!!! Nowhere in the constitution does it say they should bail out business.

I agree, Trump Plague will be a catastrophe, but it will be because of his mismanagement more than anything else. I'm sure when we are at 10% unemployment, we will hear all the horror stories about good companies not getting this aid, but Trump businesses will.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

In your mind. Nobody but the left is blaming Donald Trump for a worldwide pandemic that simply wasn't stoppable. And nobody cares what the left thinks because they would vote against him anyhow. They are irrelevant.

It's likely by November, we will be on the upswing with all this. Plenty of N-95 masks to go around, one month closer to a vaccine, plenty of test kits for the entire population to see who is not capable of catching this thing, stock market recovering, and tens of thousands immune since they already had the virus.

Sunshine and puppies...

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So let's concede that Q1 and Q2 will be negative economic growth, indicating a recession.

Let's also concede that MAYBE Q3 might be an upswing.

So what?

For Poppy Bush, the "recession" was officially over in Q1 of 1992. They still voted him out.

For Jimmy Carter, the recession was officially over in July 1980. He still got voted out on his can.

If a recession breaks out on your watch, you need a lot more daylight than one good quarter or even one good year. Mostly because indicators like unemployment tend to be lagging indicators.

With 16 million unemployed, (so far) unemployment will spike at 10% in April, and that might not be the end of it.

It won't get better by November, and that assumes we won't have a second outbreak of Covid in the fall, like we usually do with diseases of this type.

Absolutely correct, it will depend on a lot of factors. But two scenarios here:

One is that it goes as I think, and we are on our way to a recovery. Why would you vote for Biden at that point?

The other is our economy is still having difficulties because the virus resurfaced. Why would you want anybody but Trump to handle that problem?

Unlike economies that depend on decisions like the housing market, few blame the President for something beyond our control. The left were trying to pin 911 on GW, and it didn't work. He won reelection. If Bill Clinton could have run for a third term, he might just have won that too, in spite of that recession.

Voters realize that a President is not control of every single event in this country. Nobody ever dreamed of airplanes being hijacked and flown into buildings. Nobody ever thought that some maniac would load a van full of fertilizer and blow up a federal building. You can't blame a President for the downfall after a technology boom.

No matter what, I don't think anybody other than the left is going to try and blame President Trump for an unstoppable worldwide virus.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Numbers are pretty much universal, buddy. Most trucks have GPS systems that tell people where to turn or directions.

Then we need to fix that. Most of our problems are that too many people don't make a living wage... This economic crash is going to emphasize that problem.

Wrong. Minimum wage workers represent 3% to 5% of our workforce. They are mostly jobs that are taken by teens, retired people bored with sitting around the house, housewives working through the school season until their kids get out for summer vacation, and perhaps college students. They are not there to support a family of five.

Increasing minimum wage sets off a domino effect. We learned that in our union years. That's why all our products are made overseas today. You can't just increase wages on one group of people. Everybody else will want more money as well.

Um, yeah. We tried that... we are in the mess we are in now. Trump just signed off on 2 Trillion in socialism and rigging the economic game in favor of businesses. We're all Socialists now. Sing it, buddy!

Socialsim is the attempt to make people as equal as possible. That's not what's happening here.

Who says they won't hire you? Heck, I think that guy probably would have hired me even after finding out I worked for them before. I was the one who said "No thanks," because it was an awful company.

All the resume does is get you the interview. Hit the right keywords, be concise, show achievements, you get the interview. The rest is on you.

Okay, so you get the interview, and then the HR person or employer realizes your resume was a fairy tale. Now what?

Again, you just said in this VERY THREAD, that's not one of the duties of the Federal Government!!! Nowhere in the constitution does it say they should bail out business.

I agree, Trump Plague will be a catastrophe, but it will be because of his mismanagement more than anything else. I'm sure when we are at 10% unemployment, we will hear all the horror stories about good companies not getting this aid, but Trump businesses will.

It's not designed to help each and every business, just the businesses in distress. Much of it are loan guarantees that will have to be paid back. It is not a constitutional obligation to save those businesses, but the Constitution left it up to the Congress to determine taxation and spending. In reality, this is actually the Democrat stimulus since all spending bills must originate in the House as outlined in the Constitution.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Fact: Many drugs are used for other things they are not designed for.
Fact: There are doctors using the drug and are seeing positive results, in fact in France their case studies are very promising. So you idea that "all the doctors say" is an out and out lie.

The fact you are back to your childish name calling is more proof you were embarrassed and wrong.

Stalker-Georgio, you can go on and on about "Doctors in France", but Doctors in this country are saying don't do it.

I posted the articles... this is quackery...

Only your leftist doctors are saying that.

Isn’t Ingraham the one who denied there was a problem and that Liberals were overreacting?

I watch her show religiously (unless there is a guest host) and I don't recall that. But if she did, it was early on when nobody realized how bad this problem could get.

I’m sure you watch all the RW media moguls
Want to see what they had to say about the TRUMPvirus?

No, Laura is the only one I watch faithfully. I may turn it on when nothing else is on television to watch like Sunday afternoon or evening, depending on how much I have recoded. I like a couple of the shows on HGTV.

With the exception of Tucker Carlson, who warned about the seriousness of the TRUMPvirus early, the RW media was unanimous in declaring the virus to be an overstated threat that would quickly go away with little impact.

President Trump was the main cheerleader

I don't deny that. Nobody could have predicted anything like this. Most people alive today in this country never thought such a think could happen to us. If you would have told me six months ago that today, I'd be going grocery shopping with a face mask, disposable gloves, sanitizing my hands every time I left my car or reentered it, I would have said you were nuts; not just me, most anybody really.

What I think you have here is a political football made of rock. It's not going to go very far when you throw it.

 

[rightwinger]

The RW media got it terribly wrong.
They did their viewers a disservice by minimizing the threat at a critical time.

Rather than admit they got it wrong. They are rewriting history

 

[Papageorgio]

I'm not an expert but there are results proving it to be viable treatment, not a cure, but a treatment. I'm not sure if it is good or not but some doctors are having success.

I need something a little more serious than the Country Music Radio station, thanks.

Good for you, if you get the virus, which I hope you don’t, then you can tell them ahead of time that you don’t want the malaria drug no matter how bad you get because of your politics.

 

[rightwinger]

I'm not an expert but there are results proving it to be viable treatment, not a cure, but a treatment. I'm not sure if it is good or not but some doctors are having success.

I need something a little more serious than the Country Music Radio station, thanks.

Good for you, if you get the virus, which I hope you don’t, then you can tell them ahead of time that you don’t want the malaria drug no matter how bad you get because of your politics.

People want the right drug.

There is conflicting information on whether the malaria drug does more harm than good.

I would rather trust my doctor than Trumps daily misinformation

 

[Papageorgio]

The $1200 helps everyone, quickly, there are other plans like the additional $600 unemployment buffer that should rollout only to the unemployed.

The issue now is the government trying to figure how to get the money out faster.

The way to get money out faster to the people is to get rid of Democrats. I hope we all remember that next election.

Senate Democrats block $250 billion for coronavirus small business loans

Senate Democrats on Thursday blocked legislation to add $250 billion to a small-business loan program designed to prevent layoffs during the coronavirus outbreak. The move means that Congress won&#…

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Democrats, led by Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York, had pushed for a package totaling $500 billion, including the $250 billion in small-business funds and an additional $100 billion for hospitals and $150 billion for states and local governments.

Yes, and Republicans met him half way by allowing the spending for small business, given the fact small businesses are our largest employers in this country. But you know how Democrats are, it's either all their way, or no way at all.

Actually, the Dems want more and McConnell is cheapening out.
The matter will be resolved next week.

Yes, he's trying to keep unnecessary spending down. The point is that it's the Democrats who are holding up the works, not the Republicans.

WTF?

He is already at $2.2 trillion with no end in sight

Why are you worrying about it? You didn’t mind Obama throwing money at the economy in 2009.

That’s the point

Investors had pulled out of the market. Employers were laying off 750,000 a month. An influx of cash was needed to stimulate the economy. Republicans bitched about $800 billion

Today, we have millions unemployed. Not because of a bad economy but because Business is shuttered due to an infectious virus. No amount of money is going to change that. Yet Trump threw $2.2 trillion at it.

We are in a recession and almost a depression if we don't act quickly. This economy is not going to bounce right back after the Covid-19 threat disappears. The summer is a loss for the trade and tourism season. People are not going to start spending money right away, people will behind in mortgages, rent and other bills. This is going to take several months t get up and going again, this is as bad as I have seen in my life time.

Exactly right

That is why we should not start pumping money into the economy until it is open for business.

So in the meantime, families go without and wait to get kicked out of their homes and it's all good because we need to wait until it is over. I was against the last bail out in 2008 under Bush, because it was greedy being greedy that got the world in trouble.

This is much different, this is government preventing the spread of the virus. People in real need, need to survive through this. They need to not lose further ground because of something they can't fix on their own. Small businesses have been shuttered and the longer it takes for them to reopen, the less that will reopen. Much of this money will keep people afloat until the bans are lifted. Profits for 2020 will be gone and the employment rate will stay high because there is nothing to go back to.

I am for the poor, the families that are struggling, the small businesses that have been devastated in all of this. Big corporations are not hurting as bad as the little guys and it is the little guys that need the help, not the big corporations. Of the $2 trillion, more should have been aimed at helping the middle class, the poor and small businesses that carry America on their backs.

I’ve already said we need to concentrate on those immediately affected.

Giving $1200 to those who do not need it does not help

How do you decide who needs $1200 or not?

Those who are out of work because of virus related closures
Those who have the disease or are taking care of someone
Business owners forced to close.
Medical care professionals

I would give them a lot more than $1200

What did DumBama do during his recession? He reduced social security taxes for those who were working. This is not much different of an approach, and that is trying to aid the working class of our society.

Again
The Great Obama put money into an economy that had businesses failing.

Our businesses are not failing, they are shut down due to virus. No amount of money will reverse that

There are businesses that are failing. They are still incurring debt and they have no money coming in. Bills don’t stop coming into a business because they are closed. Mortgages, rents, utilities, equipment costs. Restarting a business after this is over is going to cost, many won’t make it and will shutdown or not reopen.

The auto industry, the hotel industry, tourism, airlines, restaurants, furniture sales, construction, concert venues, sporting arenas, real estate, resorts where 80% of there sales are in the summer, Amtrak, you name it, they are all in trouble. We are now in a world wide recession and heading for a depression.

People are now holding on to money because they are worried about their economic future. More people in the history of the US on unemployment and there are no jobs. The state governments are going to need help because they are shelling out unemployment at record rates, sales tax revenues are way down, money from fuel taxes have all but dried up. Welfare and food stamps are increasing at record rates.

Again, we are going to hurt from this in years to come. Money getting into circulation is what will help. Don’t look for unemployment to comeback down to 5% anytime soon, if ever.