Convenient store stand-your-ground shooter charged

[TheGreenHornet]

You are not only ignorant of the law on self defense you a exceedingly shallow thinker.

The law on simple self defense has always been based on the perception of the one under attack...if he 'reasonably' believes his life is in danger or that he may suffer grievious bodily injury then he is entitled to use lethal force.'

There is no reason to believe that he was not in reasonable fear of his life and in fact there is every reason to believe he was.

He had been violently shoved to the ground resulting in an injury to his right arm, causing him to be dazed and in a state of shock. The black dude continued to advance on him after he had shoved him to the ground.....why? Obviously he meant to continue the attack.

Fortunately for Drejka he was able to get his weapon out despite having his right arm injuredl,being dazed, disoriented and no doubt in a state of at least mild shock.


The attacker upon seeing the weapon come out was also shocked...he had sized up his victim on exiting the store and thought he would be a easy target--but lo and behold he has a gun...he recoiled at the sight of the weapon --backing up for a step or two but still facing his victim. He turned slightly but was still in striking distance of the victim. Thus still a threat.

This was all brought out in the trial but the jury must have been napping.

The victim with the help of his left hand manages to bring the weapon up and sight it....he did not have the benefit of a slow motion camera and did not see his attacker step slightly backward...his perception was that the attacker still posed a threat--one needs to remember this all happened very fast. And indeed it was very possible that the black thug might have decided to rush him. Not like it has not happened before....remember the black dude was doped up and in his state of altered reality there is telling what he might have done.

One thing for sure he had not retreated to enough of a distance to no longer pose a threat.

Unfortunately, the Jury did not appreciate how fast all of this happened....being misled by watching it frame by frame in slow motion. They did not grasp how quickly Drejka had to decide to shoot or not to shoot....and in fear of his life and or further bodily injury he pulled the trigger.

No basis to assume he was not in reasonable fear of his life after all that.

Thus the jury got it wrong

Now we see all this idiotic monday morning quarterbacking by folks who have not only the luxury of hindsight but also of a slow motion video and thus they also draw erroneous conclusions.

A terrible miscarriage of justice has occured and it will have ramifications as has been pointed out....essentially-- altering the basic concept of self-defense which has always been based on the perception of the victim.

Hopefully on appeal this b.s. will get rectified.

I guess you were too stupid to understand it the first time.

Believing a person who is in retreat is threatening imminent death or great bodily harm; is not a reasonable belief.

You should have watched the trial...first of all Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards ...that was not his perception at all.........and the expert witness on how to recognize a viable threat explained in detail that what the black did should not be considered retreating...merely repositoning himself and presenting a smaller target by turning some what to the left.

The key point you are missing is that in reality the thug was still close enough to pose a threat to his victim...very close ...well within striking distance if he wanted to rush his victim and wrestle the gun away from him and then commence to beat him.

You cannot accurately predict what the thug might have done if Drejka had not shot him. If he meant to retreat he should have taken off running and he would still be alive today...there is however a big possibility he did not want to retreat but to attack again.

Again you must remember he was under the influence and not rational. No rational man will storm out of a store and attack a stranger for just being in a argument with his wife. A reasonable person would try to figure out what was going on....no not him he just rushed out and attacked ...no questions asked.

Sorry, I just don't believe a word you're saying. I'm watching the video and seeing for myself something vastly different than what you're describing...



1:46 - McGlockton shoves Drejka, knocking him to the ground

1:48 - Drejka sits up and is looking directly at McGlockton

1:49 - Drejka, still looking at McGlockton, reaches into his clothes. McGlockton sees this and takes 2 steps backwards.

1:50 - Drejka pulls out a gun while still looking at McGlockton. McGlockton takes 2 mores steps backwards

1:51 - McGlockton turns away from Drejka to his right

1:52 - Drejka shoots McGlockton on his left side.

From the time Drejka sat up until he shot McGlockton, he never once took his eyes off of him. So your claim that "Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards," is pure bullshit. What the video shows is Drejka watching McGlockton as he took 4 steps backwards and began turning away from him over a period of about 4 seconds. And the claim McGlockton was possibly repositioning himself to lunge at Drejka doesn't fly, in my opinion; since Drejka had his gun trained on McGlockton, who was about 10 feet away and walking backwards. Drejka would still have had ample opportunity to shoot McGlockton had he lunged at him.

First of all you cannot clearly see the black guys feet....a witness is in between the camera view and his feet. Nor can you accurately judge from the video how many feet
the black guy is from Drejka....this was brought out in the trial which you did not watch...and furthermore and shockingly the police did not even measure the distances...so how many feet the perp is away from his victim is a matter of conjecture.

The defense made a big point of the fact that the police did not actually measure the distances involved....a key factor.

Also once again and anyone who has been involved in a traumatic event knows this....that you focus on the threat...sighting your gun...and in such a state of mind with your life in the balance many details can be missed.....completely understandable...again all brought out in the trial.

I go go back there today with the video and tell you down to the millimeter how far away they were. You are a fucking excuse factory and a damn poor one at that.

When you go go back dere how you gonna tell exactly where all those involved were precisely there....again this was a huge point made in the trial...the police did not go back to the parking lot and measure the distances.

You need to calm down....take a hot bath good for the nerves.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I guess you were too stupid to understand it the first time.

Believing a person who is in retreat is threatening imminent death or great bodily harm; is not a reasonable belief.

Looks to me you are just ignoring the facts in the post you're quoting just so you can spew more vile bs. That's why it's a waste of time to try to provide actual facts about anything to you filth.

Oh? What am I ignoring? I posted the video along with my observation that over a period of about 4 seconds, Drejka watched McGlockton take 4 steps away from him and begin turning away as he shot him in the side.

What part of that do you see differently in the video...?

And I care why?

Another dead Negro..

I didn't ask you. Why would I care what an unabashed racist thinks?

Regressive liberal ROE
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2. Promptly reject all explanations as right wing lies. Smoke spin deflect
3. Ignore any facts presented.
4. Ridicule spelling and typos, punctuation.
5. Attack the person as being juvenile, ie: "are you 12 years old", question their education, intelligence, Age
6. Employ misdirection,
6a. smear people
6b. attack religion
6c. attack your rationality.
7. Lie, make false assumptions
8. Play race/gender card/misogynist card
9. Play gay/lesbian card
10. Play the Nazi/Fascist/bigot card
11. Make up stuff/So you got nothing?
12. Deny constantly
13. Reword and repeat
14. Pretending not to understand, playing ignorant/what did I lie about
15. When losing, resort to personal attacks.
16. Russia
17. Fox News/Alex Jones/Brietbart/infowars/Stormfront/Gateway/hannity
18. You can’t read.
19. Trump Trump Trump TrumpTrump Trump

It is easy to play the race card when dealing with racists like you, and the other KKK members on the thread.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And I care why?

Another dead Negro..

Another racist asshole chimes in! Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!

Isn't there a cross burning you should be attending somewhere?

hehheh calm down old man...you should not get so excited at your age...you best go and check your blood pressure and take your meds before you stroke out.

That progressive scumbag evidently loves it when someone gets screwed over for defending themselves against a drug headed black criminal.

Which progressive scumbag are you referring to? There are three racist assholes in this thread and a few more respectable individuals who believe in the rule of law.

To you idiot.

Progressive? I am sorry! You have reached a number that is no longer in service. I am a conservative, just not a racist prick like you assholes!

 

[miketx]

Looks to me you are just ignoring the facts in the post you're quoting just so you can spew more vile bs. That's why it's a waste of time to try to provide actual facts about anything to you filth.

Oh? What am I ignoring? I posted the video along with my observation that over a period of about 4 seconds, Drejka watched McGlockton take 4 steps away from him and begin turning away as he shot him in the side.

What part of that do you see differently in the video...?

And I care why?

Another dead Negro..

I didn't ask you. Why would I care what an unabashed racist thinks?

Regressive liberal ROE
1. Demand a link or an explanation of the truth they are objecting to.
2. Promptly reject all explanations as right wing lies. Smoke spin deflect
3. Ignore any facts presented.
4. Ridicule spelling and typos, punctuation.
5. Attack the person as being juvenile, ie: "are you 12 years old", question their education, intelligence, Age
6. Employ misdirection,
6a. smear people
6b. attack religion
6c. attack your rationality.
7. Lie, make false assumptions
8. Play race/gender card/misogynist card
9. Play gay/lesbian card
10. Play the Nazi/Fascist/bigot card
11. Make up stuff/So you got nothing?
12. Deny constantly
13. Reword and repeat
14. Pretending not to understand, playing ignorant/what did I lie about
15. When losing, resort to personal attacks.
16. Russia
17. Fox News/Alex Jones/Brietbart/infowars/Stormfront/Gateway/hannity
18. You can’t read.
19. Trump Trump Trump TrumpTrump Trump

It is easy to play the race card when dealing with racists like you, and the other KKK members on the thread.

That's all you progressive loons know how to do. When you can't tell enough lies to convince us you are right you resort to racist attacks, little man.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I guess you were too stupid to understand it the first time.

Believing a person who is in retreat is threatening imminent death or great bodily harm; is not a reasonable belief.

You should have watched the trial...first of all Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards ...that was not his perception at all.........and the expert witness on how to recognize a viable threat explained in detail that what the black did should not be considered retreating...merely repositoning himself and presenting a smaller target by turning some what to the left.

The key point you are missing is that in reality the thug was still close enough to pose a threat to his victim...very close ...well within striking distance if he wanted to rush his victim and wrestle the gun away from him and then commence to beat him.

You cannot accurately predict what the thug might have done if Drejka had not shot him. If he meant to retreat he should have taken off running and he would still be alive today...there is however a big possibility he did not want to retreat but to attack again.

Again you must remember he was under the influence and not rational. No rational man will storm out of a store and attack a stranger for just being in a argument with his wife. A reasonable person would try to figure out what was going on....no not him he just rushed out and attacked ...no questions asked.

Sorry, I just don't believe a word you're saying. I'm watching the video and seeing for myself something vastly different than what you're describing...



1:46 - McGlockton shoves Drejka, knocking him to the ground

1:48 - Drejka sits up and is looking directly at McGlockton

1:49 - Drejka, still looking at McGlockton, reaches into his clothes. McGlockton sees this and takes 2 steps backwards.

1:50 - Drejka pulls out a gun while still looking at McGlockton. McGlockton takes 2 mores steps backwards

1:51 - McGlockton turns away from Drejka to his right

1:52 - Drejka shoots McGlockton on his left side.

From the time Drejka sat up until he shot McGlockton, he never once took his eyes off of him. So your claim that "Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards," is pure bullshit. What the video shows is Drejka watching McGlockton as he took 4 steps backwards and began turning away from him over a period of about 4 seconds. And the claim McGlockton was possibly repositioning himself to lunge at Drejka doesn't fly, in my opinion; since Drejka had his gun trained on McGlockton, who was about 10 feet away and walking backwards. Drejka would still have had ample opportunity to shoot McGlockton had he lunged at him.

First of all you cannot clearly see the black guys feet....a witness is in between the camera view and his feet. Nor can you accurately judge from the video how many feet
the black guy is from Drejka....this was brought out in the trial which you did not watch...and furthermore and shockingly the police did not even measure the distances...so how many feet the perp is away from his victim is a matter of conjecture.

The defense made a big point of the fact that the police did not actually measure the distances involved....a key factor.

Also once again and anyone who has been involved in a traumatic event knows this....that you focus on the threat...sighting your gun...and in such a state of mind with your life in the balance many details can be missed.....completely understandable...again all brought out in the trial.

I go go back there today with the video and tell you down to the millimeter how far away they were. You are a fucking excuse factory and a damn poor one at that.

When you go go back dere how you gonna tell exactly where all those involved were precisely there....again this was a huge point made in the trial...the police did not go back to the parking lot and measure the distances.

You need to calm down....take a hot bath good for the nerves.

The distances are easily estimated from the video. Why didn't the defense attorney measure the distances? I know!

It didn't make any fucking difference! They knew he was going down!

 

[miketx]

Another racist asshole chimes in! Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!

Isn't there a cross burning you should be attending somewhere?

hehheh calm down old man...you should not get so excited at your age...you best go and check your blood pressure and take your meds before you stroke out.

That progressive scumbag evidently loves it when someone gets screwed over for defending themselves against a drug headed black criminal.

Which progressive scumbag are you referring to? There are three racist assholes in this thread and a few more respectable individuals who believe in the rule of law.

To you idiot.

Progressive? I am sorry! You have reached a number that is no longer in service. I am a conservative, just not a racist prick like you assholes!

You are a liar. The fact we don't think the verdict was justified makes us racist? Yep, you are a progressive race-baiting nut case.

 

[miketx]

You should have watched the trial...first of all Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards ...that was not his perception at all.........and the expert witness on how to recognize a viable threat explained in detail that what the black did should not be considered retreating...merely repositoning himself and presenting a smaller target by turning some what to the left.

The key point you are missing is that in reality the thug was still close enough to pose a threat to his victim...very close ...well within striking distance if he wanted to rush his victim and wrestle the gun away from him and then commence to beat him.

You cannot accurately predict what the thug might have done if Drejka had not shot him. If he meant to retreat he should have taken off running and he would still be alive today...there is however a big possibility he did not want to retreat but to attack again.

Again you must remember he was under the influence and not rational. No rational man will storm out of a store and attack a stranger for just being in a argument with his wife. A reasonable person would try to figure out what was going on....no not him he just rushed out and attacked ...no questions asked.

Sorry, I just don't believe a word you're saying. I'm watching the video and seeing for myself something vastly different than what you're describing...



1:46 - McGlockton shoves Drejka, knocking him to the ground

1:48 - Drejka sits up and is looking directly at McGlockton

1:49 - Drejka, still looking at McGlockton, reaches into his clothes. McGlockton sees this and takes 2 steps backwards.

1:50 - Drejka pulls out a gun while still looking at McGlockton. McGlockton takes 2 mores steps backwards

1:51 - McGlockton turns away from Drejka to his right

1:52 - Drejka shoots McGlockton on his left side.

From the time Drejka sat up until he shot McGlockton, he never once took his eyes off of him. So your claim that "Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards," is pure bullshit. What the video shows is Drejka watching McGlockton as he took 4 steps backwards and began turning away from him over a period of about 4 seconds. And the claim McGlockton was possibly repositioning himself to lunge at Drejka doesn't fly, in my opinion; since Drejka had his gun trained on McGlockton, who was about 10 feet away and walking backwards. Drejka would still have had ample opportunity to shoot McGlockton had he lunged at him.

First of all you cannot clearly see the black guys feet....a witness is in between the camera view and his feet. Nor can you accurately judge from the video how many feet
the black guy is from Drejka....this was brought out in the trial which you did not watch...and furthermore and shockingly the police did not even measure the distances...so how many feet the perp is away from his victim is a matter of conjecture.

The defense made a big point of the fact that the police did not actually measure the distances involved....a key factor.

Also once again and anyone who has been involved in a traumatic event knows this....that you focus on the threat...sighting your gun...and in such a state of mind with your life in the balance many details can be missed.....completely understandable...again all brought out in the trial.

I go go back there today with the video and tell you down to the millimeter how far away they were. You are a fucking excuse factory and a damn poor one at that.

When you go go back dere how you gonna tell exactly where all those involved were precisely there....again this was a huge point made in the trial...the police did not go back to the parking lot and measure the distances.

You need to calm down....take a hot bath good for the nerves.

The distances are easily estimated from the video. Why didn't the defense attorney measure the distances? I know!

It didn't make any fucking difference! They knew he was going down!

The defense attorney wasn't at the scene of the crime when it went down, libby.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Oh? What am I ignoring? I posted the video along with my observation that over a period of about 4 seconds, Drejka watched McGlockton take 4 steps away from him and begin turning away as he shot him in the side.

What part of that do you see differently in the video...?

And I care why?

Another dead Negro..

I didn't ask you. Why would I care what an unabashed racist thinks?

Regressive liberal ROE
1. Demand a link or an explanation of the truth they are objecting to.
2. Promptly reject all explanations as right wing lies. Smoke spin deflect
3. Ignore any facts presented.
4. Ridicule spelling and typos, punctuation.
5. Attack the person as being juvenile, ie: "are you 12 years old", question their education, intelligence, Age
6. Employ misdirection,
6a. smear people
6b. attack religion
6c. attack your rationality.
7. Lie, make false assumptions
8. Play race/gender card/misogynist card
9. Play gay/lesbian card
10. Play the Nazi/Fascist/bigot card
11. Make up stuff/So you got nothing?
12. Deny constantly
13. Reword and repeat
14. Pretending not to understand, playing ignorant/what did I lie about
15. When losing, resort to personal attacks.
16. Russia
17. Fox News/Alex Jones/Brietbart/infowars/Stormfront/Gateway/hannity
18. You can’t read.
19. Trump Trump Trump TrumpTrump Trump

It is easy to play the race card when dealing with racists like you, and the other KKK members on the thread.

That's all you progressive loons know how to do. When you can't tell enough lies to convince us you are right you resort to racist attacks, little man.

You are the racist, by your own words! Fuck you!

My family is very diverse and I don't tolerate racist assholes. I never have and I never will. The race of these individuals means nothing.

 

[Faun]

I didn't say you said it. Jeez, you're a freaking moron.

I asked you what is going to change the outcome since he was convicted on the video evidence showing McGlockton was retreating.

Sadly, you couldn't answer and gave that retarded response instead.

You are not only ignorant of the law on self defense you a exceedingly shallow thinker.

The law on simple self defense has always been based on the perception of the one under attack...if he 'reasonably' believes his life is in danger or that he may suffer grievious bodily injury then he is entitled to use lethal force.'

There is no reason to believe that he was not in reasonable fear of his life and in fact there is every reason to believe he was.

He had been violently shoved to the ground resulting in an injury to his right arm, causing him to be dazed and in a state of shock. The black dude continued to advance on him after he had shoved him to the ground.....why? Obviously he meant to continue the attack.

Fortunately for Drejka he was able to get his weapon out despite having his right arm injuredl,being dazed, disoriented and no doubt in a state of at least mild shock.


The attacker upon seeing the weapon come out was also shocked...he had sized up his victim on exiting the store and thought he would be a easy target--but lo and behold he has a gun...he recoiled at the sight of the weapon --backing up for a step or two but still facing his victim. He turned slightly but was still in striking distance of the victim. Thus still a threat.

This was all brought out in the trial but the jury must have been napping.

The victim with the help of his left hand manages to bring the weapon up and sight it....he did not have the benefit of a slow motion camera and did not see his attacker step slightly backward...his perception was that the attacker still posed a threat--one needs to remember this all happened very fast. And indeed it was very possible that the black thug might have decided to rush him. Not like it has not happened before....remember the black dude was doped up and in his state of altered reality there is telling what he might have done.

One thing for sure he had not retreated to enough of a distance to no longer pose a threat.

Unfortunately, the Jury did not appreciate how fast all of this happened....being misled by watching it frame by frame in slow motion. They did not grasp how quickly Drejka had to decide to shoot or not to shoot....and in fear of his life and or further bodily injury he pulled the trigger.

No basis to assume he was not in reasonable fear of his life after all that.

Thus the jury got it wrong

Now we see all this idiotic monday morning quarterbacking by folks who have not only the luxury of hindsight but also of a slow motion video and thus they also draw erroneous conclusions.

A terrible miscarriage of justice has occured and it will have ramifications as has been pointed out....essentially-- altering the basic concept of self-defense which has always been based on the perception of the victim.

Hopefully on appeal this b.s. will get rectified.

I guess you were too stupid to understand it the first time.

Believing a person who is in retreat is threatening imminent death or great bodily harm; is not a reasonable belief.

You should have watched the trial...first of all Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards ...that was not his perception at all.........and the expert witness on how to recognize a viable threat explained in detail that what the black did should not be considered retreating...merely repositoning himself and presenting a smaller target by turning some what to the left.

The key point you are missing is that in reality the thug was still close enough to pose a threat to his victim...very close ...well within striking distance if he wanted to rush his victim and wrestle the gun away from him and then commence to beat him.

You cannot accurately predict what the thug might have done if Drejka had not shot him. If he meant to retreat he should have taken off running and he would still be alive today...there is however a big possibility he did not want to retreat but to attack again.

Again you must remember he was under the influence and not rational. No rational man will storm out of a store and attack a stranger for just being in a argument with his wife. A reasonable person would try to figure out what was going on....no not him he just rushed out and attacked ...no questions asked.

Sorry, I just don't believe a word you're saying. I'm watching the video and seeing for myself something vastly different than what you're describing...



1:46 - McGlockton shoves Drejka, knocking him to the ground

1:48 - Drejka sits up and is looking directly at McGlockton

1:49 - Drejka, still looking at McGlockton, reaches into his clothes. McGlockton sees this and takes 2 steps backwards.

1:50 - Drejka pulls out a gun while still looking at McGlockton. McGlockton takes 2 mores steps backwards

1:51 - McGlockton turns away from Drejka to his right

1:52 - Drejka shoots McGlockton on his left side.

From the time Drejka sat up until he shot McGlockton, he never once took his eyes off of him. So your claim that "Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards," is pure bullshit. What the video shows is Drejka watching McGlockton as he took 4 steps backwards and began turning away from him over a period of about 4 seconds. And the claim McGlockton was possibly repositioning himself to lunge at Drejka doesn't fly, in my opinion; since Drejka had his gun trained on McGlockton, who was about 10 feet away and walking backwards. Drejka would still have had ample opportunity to shoot McGlockton had he lunged at him.

First of all you cannot clearly see the black guys feet....a witness is in between the camera view and his feet. Nor can you accurately judge from the video how many feet
the black guy is from Drejka....this was brought out in the trial which you did not watch...and furthermore and shockingly the police did not even measure the distances...so how many feet the perp is away from his victim is a matter of conjecture.

The defense made a big point of the fact that the police did not actually measure the distances involved....a key factor.

Also once again and anyone who has been involved in a traumatic event knows this....that you focus on the threat...sighting your gun...and in such a state of mind and under heavy stress with your life in the balance many details can be missed.....completely understandable...again all brought out in the trial.

The person blocking his feet only obscured the view for one step, during which single step, you see McGlockton moving backwards which requires a step. The next three steps and turn to his right are not obscured at all.

As far as the distance between them...

Shooter in deadly Florida 'Stand Your Ground' case arrested for manslaughter

The complaint stated that detectives recorded the crime scene with a 3D scanner showing that the distance between Drejka and McGlockton at the time of the shooting was about 12 feet.​

 

[TheGreenHornet]

Another racist asshole chimes in! Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!

Isn't there a cross burning you should be attending somewhere?

hehheh calm down old man...you should not get so excited at your age...you best go and check your blood pressure and take your meds before you stroke out.

That progressive scumbag evidently loves it when someone gets screwed over for defending themselves against a drug headed black criminal.

Which progressive scumbag are you referring to? There are three racist assholes in this thread and a few more respectable individuals who believe in the rule of law.

To you idiot.

Progressive? I am sorry! You have reached a number that is no longer in service. I am a conservative, just not a racist prick like you assholes!

hehheh Let me guess....a never trumper?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Sorry, I just don't believe a word you're saying. I'm watching the video and seeing for myself something vastly different than what you're describing...



1:46 - McGlockton shoves Drejka, knocking him to the ground

1:48 - Drejka sits up and is looking directly at McGlockton

1:49 - Drejka, still looking at McGlockton, reaches into his clothes. McGlockton sees this and takes 2 steps backwards.

1:50 - Drejka pulls out a gun while still looking at McGlockton. McGlockton takes 2 mores steps backwards

1:51 - McGlockton turns away from Drejka to his right

1:52 - Drejka shoots McGlockton on his left side.

From the time Drejka sat up until he shot McGlockton, he never once took his eyes off of him. So your claim that "Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards," is pure bullshit. What the video shows is Drejka watching McGlockton as he took 4 steps backwards and began turning away from him over a period of about 4 seconds. And the claim McGlockton was possibly repositioning himself to lunge at Drejka doesn't fly, in my opinion; since Drejka had his gun trained on McGlockton, who was about 10 feet away and walking backwards. Drejka would still have had ample opportunity to shoot McGlockton had he lunged at him.

First of all you cannot clearly see the black guys feet....a witness is in between the camera view and his feet. Nor can you accurately judge from the video how many feet
the black guy is from Drejka....this was brought out in the trial which you did not watch...and furthermore and shockingly the police did not even measure the distances...so how many feet the perp is away from his victim is a matter of conjecture.

The defense made a big point of the fact that the police did not actually measure the distances involved....a key factor.

Also once again and anyone who has been involved in a traumatic event knows this....that you focus on the threat...sighting your gun...and in such a state of mind with your life in the balance many details can be missed.....completely understandable...again all brought out in the trial.

I go go back there today with the video and tell you down to the millimeter how far away they were. You are a fucking excuse factory and a damn poor one at that.

When you go go back dere how you gonna tell exactly where all those involved were precisely there....again this was a huge point made in the trial...the police did not go back to the parking lot and measure the distances.

You need to calm down....take a hot bath good for the nerves.

The distances are easily estimated from the video. Why didn't the defense attorney measure the distances? I know!

It didn't make any fucking difference! They knew he was going down!

The defense attorney wasn't at the scene of the crime when it went down, libby.

Did you fucking graduate from high school, or did they throw you out at age 16 for being uneducable?

There are markings on the ground that could be measured. Relative distances can be calculated from that information.

As I said, I could go back here today and give you measurements down to the millimeter. I guess the cops also took no photos of the crime scene? Wait, I guess we will have to ask the only person in America to watch the trial!

 

[Grumblenuts]

You are not only ignorant of the law on self defense you a exceedingly shallow thinker.

The law on simple self defense has always been based on the perception of the one under attack...if he 'reasonably' believes his life is in danger or that he may suffer grievious bodily injury then he is entitled to use lethal force.'

There is no reason to believe that he was not in reasonable fear of his life and in fact there is every reason to believe he was.

He had been violently shoved to the ground resulting in an injury to his right arm, causing him to be dazed and in a state of shock. The black dude continued to advance on him after he had shoved him to the ground.....why? Obviously he meant to continue the attack.

Fortunately for Drejka he was able to get his weapon out despite having his right arm injuredl,being dazed, disoriented and no doubt in a state of at least mild shock.


The attacker upon seeing the weapon come out was also shocked...he had sized up his victim on exiting the store and thought he would be a easy target--but lo and behold he has a gun...he recoiled at the sight of the weapon --backing up for a step or two but still facing his victim. He turned slightly but was still in striking distance of the victim. Thus still a threat.

This was all brought out in the trial but the jury must have been napping.

The victim with the help of his left hand manages to bring the weapon up and sight it....he did not have the benefit of a slow motion camera and did not see his attacker step slightly backward...his perception was that the attacker still posed a threat--one needs to remember this all happened very fast. And indeed it was very possible that the black thug might have decided to rush him. Not like it has not happened before....remember the black dude was doped up and in his state of altered reality there is telling what he might have done.

One thing for sure he had not retreated to enough of a distance to no longer pose a threat.

Unfortunately, the Jury did not appreciate how fast all of this happened....being misled by watching it frame by frame in slow motion. They did not grasp how quickly Drejka had to decide to shoot or not to shoot....and in fear of his life and or further bodily injury he pulled the trigger.

No basis to assume he was not in reasonable fear of his life after all that.

Thus the jury got it wrong

Now we see all this idiotic monday morning quarterbacking by folks who have not only the luxury of hindsight but also of a slow motion video and thus they also draw erroneous conclusions.

A terrible miscarriage of justice has occured and it will have ramifications as has been pointed out....essentially-- altering the basic concept of self-defense which has always been based on the perception of the victim.

Hopefully on appeal this b.s. will get rectified.

I guess you were too stupid to understand it the first time.

Believing a person who is in retreat is threatening imminent death or great bodily harm; is not a reasonable belief.

You should have watched the trial...first of all Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards ...that was not his perception at all.........and the expert witness on how to recognize a viable threat explained in detail that what the black did should not be considered retreating...merely repositoning himself and presenting a smaller target by turning some what to the left.

The key point you are missing is that in reality the thug was still close enough to pose a threat to his victim...very close ...well within striking distance if he wanted to rush his victim and wrestle the gun away from him and then commence to beat him.

You cannot accurately predict what the thug might have done if Drejka had not shot him. If he meant to retreat he should have taken off running and he would still be alive today...there is however a big possibility he did not want to retreat but to attack again.

Again you must remember he was under the influence and not rational. No rational man will storm out of a store and attack a stranger for just being in a argument with his wife. A reasonable person would try to figure out what was going on....no not him he just rushed out and attacked ...no questions asked.

Sorry, I just don't believe a word you're saying. I'm watching the video and seeing for myself something vastly different than what you're describing...



1:46 - McGlockton shoves Drejka, knocking him to the ground

1:48 - Drejka sits up and is looking directly at McGlockton

1:49 - Drejka, still looking at McGlockton, reaches into his clothes. McGlockton sees this and takes 2 steps backwards.

1:50 - Drejka pulls out a gun while still looking at McGlockton. McGlockton takes 2 mores steps backwards

1:51 - McGlockton turns away from Drejka to his right

1:52 - Drejka shoots McGlockton on his left side.

From the time Drejka sat up until he shot McGlockton, he never once took his eyes off of him. So your claim that "Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards," is pure bullshit. What the video shows is Drejka watching McGlockton as he took 4 steps backwards and began turning away from him over a period of about 4 seconds. And the claim McGlockton was possibly repositioning himself to lunge at Drejka doesn't fly, in my opinion; since Drejka had his gun trained on McGlockton, who was about 10 feet away and walking backwards. Drejka would still have had ample opportunity to shoot McGlockton had he lunged at him.

First of all you cannot clearly see the black guys feet....a witness is in between the camera view and his feet. Nor can you accurately judge from the video how many feet
the black guy is from Drejka....this was brought out in the trial which you did not watch...and furthermore and shockingly the police did not even measure the distances...so how many feet the perp is away from his victim is a matter of conjecture.

The defense made a big point of the fact that the police did not actually measure the distances involved....a key factor.

Also once again and anyone who has been involved in a traumatic event knows this....that you focus on the threat...sighting your gun...and in such a state of mind and under heavy stress with your life in the balance many details can be missed.....completely understandable...again all brought out in the trial.

The person blocking his feet only obscured the view for one step, during which single step, you see McGlockton moving backwards which requires a step. The next three steps and turn to his right are not obscured at all.

As far as the distance between them...

Shooter in deadly Florida 'Stand Your Ground' case arrested for manslaughter

The complaint stated that detectives recorded the crime scene with a 3D scanner showing that the distance between Drejka and McGlockton at the time of the shooting was about 12 feet.​

Listen carefully.. Hear the crickets?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

hehheh calm down old man...you should not get so excited at your age...you best go and check your blood pressure and take your meds before you stroke out.

That progressive scumbag evidently loves it when someone gets screwed over for defending themselves against a drug headed black criminal.

Which progressive scumbag are you referring to? There are three racist assholes in this thread and a few more respectable individuals who believe in the rule of law.

To you idiot.

Progressive? I am sorry! You have reached a number that is no longer in service. I am a conservative, just not a racist prick like you assholes!

hehheh Let me guess....a never trumper?

My Trump sign sat in my front yard in 2016. I voted for him in 2016 and I will vote for him again. What does any of that have to do with the fact that I respect and follow the law and am not a racist prick like you?

Is it impossible for someone to support Trump who is not a racist prick like you?

 

[TheGreenHornet]

You should have watched the trial...first of all Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards ...that was not his perception at all.........and the expert witness on how to recognize a viable threat explained in detail that what the black did should not be considered retreating...merely repositoning himself and presenting a smaller target by turning some what to the left.

The key point you are missing is that in reality the thug was still close enough to pose a threat to his victim...very close ...well within striking distance if he wanted to rush his victim and wrestle the gun away from him and then commence to beat him.

You cannot accurately predict what the thug might have done if Drejka had not shot him. If he meant to retreat he should have taken off running and he would still be alive today...there is however a big possibility he did not want to retreat but to attack again.

Again you must remember he was under the influence and not rational. No rational man will storm out of a store and attack a stranger for just being in a argument with his wife. A reasonable person would try to figure out what was going on....no not him he just rushed out and attacked ...no questions asked.

Sorry, I just don't believe a word you're saying. I'm watching the video and seeing for myself something vastly different than what you're describing...



1:46 - McGlockton shoves Drejka, knocking him to the ground

1:48 - Drejka sits up and is looking directly at McGlockton

1:49 - Drejka, still looking at McGlockton, reaches into his clothes. McGlockton sees this and takes 2 steps backwards.

1:50 - Drejka pulls out a gun while still looking at McGlockton. McGlockton takes 2 mores steps backwards

1:51 - McGlockton turns away from Drejka to his right

1:52 - Drejka shoots McGlockton on his left side.

From the time Drejka sat up until he shot McGlockton, he never once took his eyes off of him. So your claim that "Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards," is pure bullshit. What the video shows is Drejka watching McGlockton as he took 4 steps backwards and began turning away from him over a period of about 4 seconds. And the claim McGlockton was possibly repositioning himself to lunge at Drejka doesn't fly, in my opinion; since Drejka had his gun trained on McGlockton, who was about 10 feet away and walking backwards. Drejka would still have had ample opportunity to shoot McGlockton had he lunged at him.

First of all you cannot clearly see the black guys feet....a witness is in between the camera view and his feet. Nor can you accurately judge from the video how many feet
the black guy is from Drejka....this was brought out in the trial which you did not watch...and furthermore and shockingly the police did not even measure the distances...so how many feet the perp is away from his victim is a matter of conjecture.

The defense made a big point of the fact that the police did not actually measure the distances involved....a key factor.

Also once again and anyone who has been involved in a traumatic event knows this....that you focus on the threat...sighting your gun...and in such a state of mind with your life in the balance many details can be missed.....completely understandable...again all brought out in the trial.

I go go back there today with the video and tell you down to the millimeter how far away they were. You are a fucking excuse factory and a damn poor one at that.

When you go go back dere how you gonna tell exactly where all those involved were precisely there....again this was a huge point made in the trial...the police did not go back to the parking lot and measure the distances.

You need to calm down....take a hot bath good for the nerves.

The distances are easily estimated from the video. Why didn't the defense attorney measure the distances? I know!

It didn't make any fucking difference! They knew he was going down!

To get an accurate measurement the police should have done it on the scene and o

That progressive scumbag evidently loves it when someone gets screwed over for defending themselves against a drug headed black criminal.

Which progressive scumbag are you referring to? There are three racist assholes in this thread and a few more respectable individuals who believe in the rule of law.

To you idiot.

Progressive? I am sorry! You have reached a number that is no longer in service. I am a conservative, just not a racist prick like you assholes!

hehheh Let me guess....a never trumper?

My Trump sign sat in my front yard in 2016. I voted for him in 2016 and I will vote for him again. What does any of that have to do with the fact that I respect and follow the law and am not a racist prick like you?

Is it impossible for someone to support Trump who is not a racist prick like you?

You mean you do not think Trump is a racist?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I guess you were too stupid to understand it the first time.

Believing a person who is in retreat is threatening imminent death or great bodily harm; is not a reasonable belief.

You should have watched the trial...first of all Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards ...that was not his perception at all.........and the expert witness on how to recognize a viable threat explained in detail that what the black did should not be considered retreating...merely repositoning himself and presenting a smaller target by turning some what to the left.

The key point you are missing is that in reality the thug was still close enough to pose a threat to his victim...very close ...well within striking distance if he wanted to rush his victim and wrestle the gun away from him and then commence to beat him.

You cannot accurately predict what the thug might have done if Drejka had not shot him. If he meant to retreat he should have taken off running and he would still be alive today...there is however a big possibility he did not want to retreat but to attack again.

Again you must remember he was under the influence and not rational. No rational man will storm out of a store and attack a stranger for just being in a argument with his wife. A reasonable person would try to figure out what was going on....no not him he just rushed out and attacked ...no questions asked.

Sorry, I just don't believe a word you're saying. I'm watching the video and seeing for myself something vastly different than what you're describing...



1:46 - McGlockton shoves Drejka, knocking him to the ground

1:48 - Drejka sits up and is looking directly at McGlockton

1:49 - Drejka, still looking at McGlockton, reaches into his clothes. McGlockton sees this and takes 2 steps backwards.

1:50 - Drejka pulls out a gun while still looking at McGlockton. McGlockton takes 2 mores steps backwards

1:51 - McGlockton turns away from Drejka to his right

1:52 - Drejka shoots McGlockton on his left side.

From the time Drejka sat up until he shot McGlockton, he never once took his eyes off of him. So your claim that "Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards," is pure bullshit. What the video shows is Drejka watching McGlockton as he took 4 steps backwards and began turning away from him over a period of about 4 seconds. And the claim McGlockton was possibly repositioning himself to lunge at Drejka doesn't fly, in my opinion; since Drejka had his gun trained on McGlockton, who was about 10 feet away and walking backwards. Drejka would still have had ample opportunity to shoot McGlockton had he lunged at him.

First of all you cannot clearly see the black guys feet....a witness is in between the camera view and his feet. Nor can you accurately judge from the video how many feet
the black guy is from Drejka....this was brought out in the trial which you did not watch...and furthermore and shockingly the police did not even measure the distances...so how many feet the perp is away from his victim is a matter of conjecture.

The defense made a big point of the fact that the police did not actually measure the distances involved....a key factor.

Also once again and anyone who has been involved in a traumatic event knows this....that you focus on the threat...sighting your gun...and in such a state of mind and under heavy stress with your life in the balance many details can be missed.....completely understandable...again all brought out in the trial.

The person blocking his feet only obscured the view for one step, during which single step, you see McGlockton moving backwards which requires a step. The next three steps and turn to his right are not obscured at all.

As far as the distance between them...

Shooter in deadly Florida 'Stand Your Ground' case arrested for manslaughter

The complaint stated that detectives recorded the crime scene with a 3D scanner showing that the distance between Drejka and McGlockton at the time of the shooting was about 12 feet.​

Listen carefully.. Hear the crickets?

Oh, but he watched the trial!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Sorry, I just don't believe a word you're saying. I'm watching the video and seeing for myself something vastly different than what you're describing...



1:46 - McGlockton shoves Drejka, knocking him to the ground

1:48 - Drejka sits up and is looking directly at McGlockton

1:49 - Drejka, still looking at McGlockton, reaches into his clothes. McGlockton sees this and takes 2 steps backwards.

1:50 - Drejka pulls out a gun while still looking at McGlockton. McGlockton takes 2 mores steps backwards

1:51 - McGlockton turns away from Drejka to his right

1:52 - Drejka shoots McGlockton on his left side.

From the time Drejka sat up until he shot McGlockton, he never once took his eyes off of him. So your claim that "Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards," is pure bullshit. What the video shows is Drejka watching McGlockton as he took 4 steps backwards and began turning away from him over a period of about 4 seconds. And the claim McGlockton was possibly repositioning himself to lunge at Drejka doesn't fly, in my opinion; since Drejka had his gun trained on McGlockton, who was about 10 feet away and walking backwards. Drejka would still have had ample opportunity to shoot McGlockton had he lunged at him.

First of all you cannot clearly see the black guys feet....a witness is in between the camera view and his feet. Nor can you accurately judge from the video how many feet
the black guy is from Drejka....this was brought out in the trial which you did not watch...and furthermore and shockingly the police did not even measure the distances...so how many feet the perp is away from his victim is a matter of conjecture.

The defense made a big point of the fact that the police did not actually measure the distances involved....a key factor.

Also once again and anyone who has been involved in a traumatic event knows this....that you focus on the threat...sighting your gun...and in such a state of mind with your life in the balance many details can be missed.....completely understandable...again all brought out in the trial.

I go go back there today with the video and tell you down to the millimeter how far away they were. You are a fucking excuse factory and a damn poor one at that.

When you go go back dere how you gonna tell exactly where all those involved were precisely there....again this was a huge point made in the trial...the police did not go back to the parking lot and measure the distances.

You need to calm down....take a hot bath good for the nerves.

The distances are easily estimated from the video. Why didn't the defense attorney measure the distances? I know!

It didn't make any fucking difference! They knew he was going down!

To get an accurate measurement the police should have done it on the scene and o

Which progressive scumbag are you referring to? There are three racist assholes in this thread and a few more respectable individuals who believe in the rule of law.

To you idiot.

Progressive? I am sorry! You have reached a number that is no longer in service. I am a conservative, just not a racist prick like you assholes!

hehheh Let me guess....a never trumper?

My Trump sign sat in my front yard in 2016. I voted for him in 2016 and I will vote for him again. What does any of that have to do with the fact that I respect and follow the law and am not a racist prick like you?

Is it impossible for someone to support Trump who is not a racist prick like you?

You mean you do not think Trump is a racist?

I guess that question means that you support him because he is a racist?

No, I don't think there is a racist bone in his body. However, your entire skeleton is made up of racist bones.

 

[Marion Morrison]

In a nutshell this whole friggin disaster was the result of politics. The police had investigated the whole incident and the sheriff himself said Drejka was within his rights.

Then outside political operatives came into Clearwater, stirred up the media and were able to bring enough political pressure on the political leadership to get Drejka indicted.

Clearwater, Fl. is a tourist town heavily dependent on tourists they did not want the media to spread the word that a innocent unarmed black man had been killed by a white man in Clearwater fl.....they feared it would hurt business. Thus they decided to offer up a sacrifical lamb...Mr. Drejka to mollify the media and prevent any loss of tourism.

Pure, unadulterated bullshit!

The Sheriff is not a prosecutor.

Oh. BTW, I just checked! There is no Sheriff in Clearwater, FL. They have a Chief of Police.

Another massive fuckup on someone who supposedly watched the trial.

Oh there definitely is a sheriff in Clearwater FL. His name is Bob Gualtieri.

He's the sheriff for all boroughs in Pinellas county.

Dunedin, Larghetto, Pinellas Park, etc..Clearwater, too.

 

[Bush92]

First of all you cannot clearly see the black guys feet....a witness is in between the camera view and his feet. Nor can you accurately judge from the video how many feet
the black guy is from Drejka....this was brought out in the trial which you did not watch...and furthermore and shockingly the police did not even measure the distances...so how many feet the perp is away from his victim is a matter of conjecture.

The defense made a big point of the fact that the police did not actually measure the distances involved....a key factor.

Also once again and anyone who has been involved in a traumatic event knows this....that you focus on the threat...sighting your gun...and in such a state of mind with your life in the balance many details can be missed.....completely understandable...again all brought out in the trial.

I go go back there today with the video and tell you down to the millimeter how far away they were. You are a fucking excuse factory and a damn poor one at that.

When you go go back dere how you gonna tell exactly where all those involved were precisely there....again this was a huge point made in the trial...the police did not go back to the parking lot and measure the distances.

You need to calm down....take a hot bath good for the nerves.

The distances are easily estimated from the video. Why didn't the defense attorney measure the distances? I know!

It didn't make any fucking difference! They knew he was going down!

To get an accurate measurement the police should have done it on the scene and o

To you idiot.

Progressive? I am sorry! You have reached a number that is no longer in service. I am a conservative, just not a racist prick like you assholes!

hehheh Let me guess....a never trumper?

My Trump sign sat in my front yard in 2016. I voted for him in 2016 and I will vote for him again. What does any of that have to do with the fact that I respect and follow the law and am not a racist prick like you?

Is it impossible for someone to support Trump who is not a racist prick like you?

You mean you do not think Trump is a racist?

I guess that question means that you support him because he is a racist?

No, I don't think there is a racist bone in his body. However, your entire skeleton is made up of racist bones.

How was he a racist?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I go go back there today with the video and tell you down to the millimeter how far away they were. You are a fucking excuse factory and a damn poor one at that.

When you go go back dere how you gonna tell exactly where all those involved were precisely there....again this was a huge point made in the trial...the police did not go back to the parking lot and measure the distances.

You need to calm down....take a hot bath good for the nerves.

The distances are easily estimated from the video. Why didn't the defense attorney measure the distances? I know!

It didn't make any fucking difference! They knew he was going down!

To get an accurate measurement the police should have done it on the scene and o

Progressive? I am sorry! You have reached a number that is no longer in service. I am a conservative, just not a racist prick like you assholes!

hehheh Let me guess....a never trumper?

My Trump sign sat in my front yard in 2016. I voted for him in 2016 and I will vote for him again. What does any of that have to do with the fact that I respect and follow the law and am not a racist prick like you?

Is it impossible for someone to support Trump who is not a racist prick like you?

You mean you do not think Trump is a racist?

I guess that question means that you support him because he is a racist?

No, I don't think there is a racist bone in his body. However, your entire skeleton is made up of racist bones.

How was he a racist?

Clean your reading glasses Grandpa!

 

[Bush92]

Dumb ignorant welfare **** parked in a spot reserved for handicapped people. But...because she feels like a societal victim (thanks Democrats ) she feels she can just park wherever she wants to. Her boyfriend (pimp) more than likely told her to park there because the LAW only applies to white peoples. Fucker got what he had coming.