Convenient store stand-your-ground shooter charged

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I didn't say you said it. Jeez, you're a freaking moron.

I asked you what is going to change the outcome since he was convicted on the video evidence showing McGlockton was retreating.

Sadly, you couldn't answer and gave that retarded response instead.

You are not only ignorant of the law on self defense you a exceedingly shallow thinker.

The law on simple self defense has always been based on the perception of the one under attack...if he 'reasonably' believes his life is in danger or that he may suffer grievious bodily injury then he is entitled to use lethal force.'

There is no reason to believe that he was not in reasonable fear of his life and in fact there is every reason to believe he was.

He had been violently shoved to the ground resulting in an injury to his right arm, causing him to be dazed and in a state of shock. The black dude continued to advance on him after he had shoved him to the ground.....why? Obviously he meant to continue the attack.

Fortunately for Drejka he was able to get his weapon out despite having his right arm injuredl,being dazed, disoriented and no doubt in a state of at least mild shock.


The attacker upon seeing the weapon come out was also shocked...he had sized up his victim on exiting the store and thought he would be a easy target--but lo and behold he has a gun...he recoiled at the sight of the weapon --backing up for a step or two but still facing his victim. He turned slightly but was still in striking distance of the victim. Thus still a threat.

This was all brought out in the trial but the jury must have been napping.

The victim with the help of his left hand manages to bring the weapon up and sight it....he did not have the benefit of a slow motion camera and did not see his attacker step slightly backward...his perception was that the attacker still posed a threat--one needs to remember this all happened very fast. And indeed it was very possible that the black thug might have decided to rush him. Not like it has not happened before....remember the black dude was doped up and in his state of altered reality there is telling what he might have done.

One thing for sure he had not retreated to enough of a distance to no longer pose a threat.

Unfortunately, the Jury did not appreciate how fast all of this happened....being misled by watching it frame by frame in slow motion. They did not grasp how quickly Drejka had to decide to shoot or not to shoot....and in fear of his life and or further bodily injury he pulled the trigger.

No basis to assume he was not in reasonable fear of his life after all that.

Thus the jury got it wrong

Now we see all this idiotic monday morning quarterbacking by folks who have not only the luxury of hindsight but also of a slow motion video and thus they also draw erroneous conclusions.

A terrible miscarriage of justice has occured and it will have ramifications as has been pointed out....essentially-- altering the basic concept of self-defense which has always been based on the perception of the victim.

Hopefully on appeal this b.s. will get rectified.

I guess you were too stupid to understand it the first time.

Believing a person who is in retreat is threatening imminent death or great bodily harm; is not a reasonable belief.

You should have watched the trial...first of all Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards ...that was not his perception at all.........and the expert witness on how to recognize a viable threat explained in detail that what the black did should not be considered retreating...merely repositoning himself and presenting a smaller target by turning some what to the left.

The key point you are missing is that in reality the thug was still close enough to pose a threat to his victim...very close ...well within striking distance if he wanted to rush his victim and wrestle the gun away from him and then commence to beat him.

You cannot accurately predict what the thug might have done if Drejka had not shot him. If he meant to retreat he should have taken off running and he would still be alive today...there is however a big possibility he did not want to retreat but to attack again.

Again you must remember he was under the influence and not rational. No rational man will storm out of a store and attack a stranger for just being in a argument with his wife. A reasonable person would try to figure out what was going on....no not him he just rushed out and attacked ...no questions asked.

Sorry, I just don't believe a word you're saying. I'm watching the video and seeing for myself something vastly different than what you're describing...



1:46 - McGlockton shoves Drejka, knocking him to the ground

1:48 - Drejka sits up and is looking directly at McGlockton

1:49 - Drejka, still looking at McGlockton, reaches into his clothes. McGlockton sees this and takes 2 steps backwards.

1:50 - Drejka pulls out a gun while still looking at McGlockton. McGlockton takes 2 mores steps backwards

1:51 - McGlockton turns away from Drejka to his right

1:52 - Drejka shoots McGlockton on his left side.

From the time Drejka sat up until he shot McGlockton, he never once took his eyes off of him. So your claim that "Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards," is pure bullshit. What the video shows is Drejka watching McGlockton as he took 4 steps backwards and began turning away from him over a period of about 4 seconds. And the claim McGlockton was possibly repositioning himself to lunge at Drejka doesn't fly, in my opinion; since Drejka had his gun trained on McGlockton, who was about 10 feet away and walking backwards. Drejka would still have had ample opportunity to shoot McGlockton had he lunged at him.

There is a lot that video doesn't show and that is what the appeal will center on.

Once more for possible penetration into the cement block you are carrying where most people have a head, appeals do not determine guilt or innocence. All they can argue is an error by the judge or the attorneys cause him to not get a fair trial. That's it!

Maybe you shouldn't have slept through class in high school like a libtard!

 

[Faun]

LOLOL

What make you think an appeal is going to alter the video showing McGlockton retreating?

Everyone notice that I said no such thing. This lying garbage is just spinning and deflecting like always.

I didn't say you said it. Jeez, you're a freaking moron.

I asked you what is going to change the outcome since he was convicted on the video evidence showing McGlockton was retreating.

Sadly, you couldn't answer and gave that retarded response instead.

You are not only ignorant of the law on self defense you a exceedingly shallow thinker.

The law on simple self defense has always been based on the perception of the one under attack...if he 'reasonably' believes his life is in danger or that he may suffer grievious bodily injury then he is entitled to use lethal force.'

There is no reason to believe that he was not in reasonable fear of his life and in fact there is every reason to believe he was.

He had been violently shoved to the ground resulting in an injury to his right arm, causing him to be dazed and in a state of shock. The black dude continued to advance on him after he had shoved him to the ground.....why? Obviously he meant to continue the attack.

Fortunately for Drejka he was able to get his weapon out despite having his right arm injuredl,being dazed, disoriented and no doubt in a state of at least mild shock.


The attacker upon seeing the weapon come out was also shocked...he had sized up his victim on exiting the store and thought he would be a easy target--but lo and behold he has a gun...he recoiled at the sight of the weapon --backing up for a step or two but still facing his victim. He turned slightly but was still in striking distance of the victim. Thus still a threat.

This was all brought out in the trial but the jury must have been napping.

The victim with the help of his left hand manages to bring the weapon up and sight it....he did not have the benefit of a slow motion camera and did not see his attacker step slightly backward...his perception was that the attacker still posed a threat--one needs to remember this all happened very fast. And indeed it was very possible that the black thug might have decided to rush him. Not like it has not happened before....remember the black dude was doped up and in his state of altered reality there is telling what he might have done.

One thing for sure he had not retreated to enough of a distance to no longer pose a threat.

Unfortunately, the Jury did not appreciate how fast all of this happened....being misled by watching it frame by frame in slow motion. They did not grasp how quickly Drejka had to decide to shoot or not to shoot....and in fear of his life and or further bodily injury he pulled the trigger.

No basis to assume he was not in reasonable fear of his life after all that.

Thus the jury got it wrong

Now we see all this idiotic monday morning quarterbacking by folks who have not only the luxury of hindsight but also of a slow motion video and thus they also draw erroneous conclusions.

A terrible miscarriage of justice has occured and it will have ramifications as has been pointed out....essentially-- altering the basic concept of self-defense which has always been based on the perception of the victim.

Hopefully on appeal this b.s. will get rectified.

I guess you were too stupid to understand it the first time.

Believing a person who is in retreat is threatening imminent death or great bodily harm; is not a reasonable belief.

Looks to me you are just ignoring the facts in the post you're quoting just so you can spew more vile bs. That's why it's a waste of time to try to provide actual facts about anything to you filth.

Oh? What am I ignoring? I posted the video along with my observation that over a period of about 4 seconds, Drejka watched McGlockton take 4 steps away from him and begin turning away as he shot him in the side.

What part of that do you see differently in the video...?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Pure, unadulterated bullshit!

The Sheriff is not a prosecutor.

Oh. BTW, I just checked! There is no Sheriff in Clearwater, FL. They have a Chief of Police.

Another massive fuckup on someone who supposedly watched the trial.

As usual you are wrong again...........Sheriff Bob Gualtieri -

Hey racist retard. YOU are wrong!

That is the COUNTY SHERIFF dumbass! Not Clearwater!

How long have you lived in FL and yet you don't know how the government is organized?

Yes...he is the sheriff of Pinellas county....Clearwater is in Pinellas county.

If the incident occurred inside the Clearwater city limits, the County has no jurisdiction.

I lived in Duval County for many years. The cities have primary jurisdiction, not Duval County, which also covers the city of Jacksonville because it has a merged government.

Trump can just pardon the guy then.

Again, you slept through school didn't you? Trump can only pardon FEDERAL crimes. What a dumbass you are proving yourself to be!

I recommend just shutting up, so that you don't embarrass yourself further!

 

[Wyatt earp]

Justice may get served in the case of man being shot defending his girlfriend that parked in handicap spot.

White man charged with fatally shooting black man in Florida | My Connection from Cox

Your link is crap

 

[Faun]

Pure, unadulterated bullshit!

The Sheriff is not a prosecutor.

Oh. BTW, I just checked! There is no Sheriff in Clearwater, FL. They have a Chief of Police.

Another massive fuckup on someone who supposedly watched the trial.

As usual you are wrong again...........Sheriff Bob Gualtieri -

Hey racist retard. YOU are wrong!

That is the COUNTY SHERIFF dumbass! Not Clearwater!

How long have you lived in FL and yet you don't know how the government is organized?

Yes...he is the sheriff of Pinellas county....Clearwater is in Pinellas county.

If the incident occurred inside the Clearwater city limits, the County has no jurisdiction.

I lived in Duval County for many years. The cities have primary jurisdiction, not Duval County, which also covers the city of Jacksonville because it has a merged government.

Trump can just pardon the guy then.

 

[westwall]

Pure, unadulterated bullshit!

The Sheriff is not a prosecutor.

Oh. BTW, I just checked! There is no Sheriff in Clearwater, FL. They have a Chief of Police.

Another massive fuckup on someone who supposedly watched the trial.

As usual you are wrong again...........Sheriff Bob Gualtieri -

Hey racist retard. YOU are wrong!

That is the COUNTY SHERIFF dumbass! Not Clearwater!

How long have you lived in FL and yet you don't know how the government is organized?

Yes...he is the sheriff of Pinellas county....Clearwater is in Pinellas county.

If the incident occurred inside the Clearwater city limits, the County has no jurisdiction.

I lived in Duval County for many years. The cities have primary jurisdiction, not Duval County, which also covers the city of Jacksonville because it has a merged government.

Trump can just pardon the guy then.

But he shouldn't. The guy was clearly in no danger. It was a bad shooting.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Everyone notice that I said no such thing. This lying garbage is just spinning and deflecting like always.

I didn't say you said it. Jeez, you're a freaking moron.

I asked you what is going to change the outcome since he was convicted on the video evidence showing McGlockton was retreating.

Sadly, you couldn't answer and gave that retarded response instead.

You are not only ignorant of the law on self defense you a exceedingly shallow thinker.

The law on simple self defense has always been based on the perception of the one under attack...if he 'reasonably' believes his life is in danger or that he may suffer grievious bodily injury then he is entitled to use lethal force.'

There is no reason to believe that he was not in reasonable fear of his life and in fact there is every reason to believe he was.

He had been violently shoved to the ground resulting in an injury to his right arm, causing him to be dazed and in a state of shock. The black dude continued to advance on him after he had shoved him to the ground.....why? Obviously he meant to continue the attack.

Fortunately for Drejka he was able to get his weapon out despite having his right arm injuredl,being dazed, disoriented and no doubt in a state of at least mild shock.


The attacker upon seeing the weapon come out was also shocked...he had sized up his victim on exiting the store and thought he would be a easy target--but lo and behold he has a gun...he recoiled at the sight of the weapon --backing up for a step or two but still facing his victim. He turned slightly but was still in striking distance of the victim. Thus still a threat.

This was all brought out in the trial but the jury must have been napping.

The victim with the help of his left hand manages to bring the weapon up and sight it....he did not have the benefit of a slow motion camera and did not see his attacker step slightly backward...his perception was that the attacker still posed a threat--one needs to remember this all happened very fast. And indeed it was very possible that the black thug might have decided to rush him. Not like it has not happened before....remember the black dude was doped up and in his state of altered reality there is telling what he might have done.

One thing for sure he had not retreated to enough of a distance to no longer pose a threat.

Unfortunately, the Jury did not appreciate how fast all of this happened....being misled by watching it frame by frame in slow motion. They did not grasp how quickly Drejka had to decide to shoot or not to shoot....and in fear of his life and or further bodily injury he pulled the trigger.

No basis to assume he was not in reasonable fear of his life after all that.

Thus the jury got it wrong

Now we see all this idiotic monday morning quarterbacking by folks who have not only the luxury of hindsight but also of a slow motion video and thus they also draw erroneous conclusions.

A terrible miscarriage of justice has occured and it will have ramifications as has been pointed out....essentially-- altering the basic concept of self-defense which has always been based on the perception of the victim.

Hopefully on appeal this b.s. will get rectified.

I guess you were too stupid to understand it the first time.

Believing a person who is in retreat is threatening imminent death or great bodily harm; is not a reasonable belief.

Looks to me you are just ignoring the facts in the post you're quoting just so you can spew more vile bs. That's why it's a waste of time to try to provide actual facts about anything to you filth.

Oh? What am I ignoring? I posted the video along with my observation that over a period of about 4 seconds, Drejka watched McGlockton take 4 steps away from him and begin turning away as he shot him in the side.

What part of that do you see differently in the video...?

And I care why?

Another dead Negro..

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No, you are doing more than that. You are also deciding the jury will find he acted in self defense according to the law. Maybe they will, maybe they won’t. Personally, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a hung jury in this case. Regardless, you’re ignoringe that McGlockton was retreating when he was shot. You’re also ignoring the results from the 3D scanner which determined McGlockton was no less than 10 feet away from Drejka when he was shot. If that evidence is presented in court, I can see at least some of the jurors deciding there was no reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm at the moment Drejka pulled the trigger.

Get real boyo, I have no power to decide anything in regards to what the jury will do. I am merely saying I do not think they will be able to convict and yes there very well could be a hung jury because they will have to have at least a couple of negroes on it.

It really does not matter that the black guy took a step or two backward when he saw the pistol come out.. I would not call that 'retreating' I would call it a reaction of supprise at seeing the pistol. Kinda like when you touch a hot stove and jerk your hand back.

Retreating to me means that he is definitely not going to do anything else as in it is over for him. That is a matter of conjecture---maybe it was maybe it was not. No one really knows. Nor can anyone possibly know that.

Also...it is very likely perhaps even probable that the white guy did not even notice the black guy took a step or so backwards....remember he was totally supprised at being violently attacked...perhaps in a little bit of shock as he did not even see the black guy coming. However he quickly realized he was on the ground with a black dude hovering near by. I think most would be in fear of their life and or at least in fear of great bodily harm at that point...hence he reached for his weapon and then aimed and fired...all his
attention being on the target and aiming and getting off the round quickly. That is a key factor how quickly the shooter had to react to defend his life and limb. How quickly he had to make a decision to shoot.

Also...something else to consider--say the white guy did not shoot but simply pointed the pistol at the black guy. What would have then happened we do not know...and we must look at this from the shooters view point--he was on the ground with a black guy very close--6 to 10 ft. is very close. He really did not know what he was up against or what the black guy was capable of or what he might do next. He did know he had been violently attacked for no reason and that he was on the ground in a very vulnurable position, he was in a black neighborhood with the g/f also close by and she had already gone ballistic on him--so either one or both of them could have rushed him. Covering a distance of 6 to 10 ft. can be done extremely quickly.

Also we must consider what the black guy might have or might not have done....remember he had a history of being arrested for assault and battery. So, let us say the pistol comes up but the white guy does not shoot...what next? Well, when the black guy realizes the white guy does not
appear to be going to shoot him...he will most likely engage him in some sort of conversation...like...whats up dude? What you pointing dat pistol at me for? All the time trying to get a fix on or read the guy as in will he shoot or is he too big a coward to shoot me...sumptin like dat. Perhaps maneuvering even closer whilst engaging the white guy verbally. And, we must remember he had been arrested for assault before so that seems to indicate he had a violent nature.

Thus in a nutshell we can only conjecture at what might have happened if the white guy did not shoot...he was the one who had to make an extremely
fast decision, it was his life on the line. He chose to shoot...I do not think it can be denied that he was in reasonable fear of his life.

Also, a big mistake a lot of folks make is to think that violently prone people are logical, too often they are governed by emotion not logic and anyone familiar with these sorts of scenarios knows it is not uncommon for the perp to get even angrier when someone pulls a pistol on him. So this erroneous belief some have that just because a perp has a pistol aimed at him he is going to give up...maybe in some cases, maybe in even most cases...but not so in all cases. And if your life is on the line...should you gamble the perp is going to be logical and reasonable...especially when he has already violently attacked you for no reason? I don't think
so. It was as they say...a good shoot.

Thus I see no conviction.

"It really does not matter that the black guy took a step or two backward when he saw the pistol come out.. I would not call that 'retreating' I would call it a reaction of supprise at seeing the pistol. Kinda like when you touch a hot stove and jerk your hand back."

The jury called it retreating.

But surveillance video shows McGlockton taking several steps back in the moments before the fatal shot -- a point on which police have challenged Drejka.​

"Thus I see no conviction."

Yet one more thing you're wrong about...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/florida-man-found-guilty-of-manslaughter-in-stand-your-ground-trial/ar-AAGeyht?ocid=spartanntp]Michael Drejka found guilty of manslaughter in parking lot shooting that led to 'Stand Your Ground' trial

The appeal will be sure to get an impartial judge that will actually allow the defense some room and it will be overturned so you bloody ghouls will have to jerk to some other miscarriage of justice.

Hey peckerhead, the defense does even get to present evidence in an appeal. It is all done on paper, you fucking twit!

The defense will be there and introduce evidence the biased judge refused to hear. Even if on paper.

What part of "the defense does not get to present evidence" did you not understand? My God, how do you function in life without adult supervision?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I didn't say you said it. Jeez, you're a freaking moron.

I asked you what is going to change the outcome since he was convicted on the video evidence showing McGlockton was retreating.

Sadly, you couldn't answer and gave that retarded response instead.

You are not only ignorant of the law on self defense you a exceedingly shallow thinker.

The law on simple self defense has always been based on the perception of the one under attack...if he 'reasonably' believes his life is in danger or that he may suffer grievious bodily injury then he is entitled to use lethal force.'

There is no reason to believe that he was not in reasonable fear of his life and in fact there is every reason to believe he was.

He had been violently shoved to the ground resulting in an injury to his right arm, causing him to be dazed and in a state of shock. The black dude continued to advance on him after he had shoved him to the ground.....why? Obviously he meant to continue the attack.

Fortunately for Drejka he was able to get his weapon out despite having his right arm injuredl,being dazed, disoriented and no doubt in a state of at least mild shock.


The attacker upon seeing the weapon come out was also shocked...he had sized up his victim on exiting the store and thought he would be a easy target--but lo and behold he has a gun...he recoiled at the sight of the weapon --backing up for a step or two but still facing his victim. He turned slightly but was still in striking distance of the victim. Thus still a threat.

This was all brought out in the trial but the jury must have been napping.

The victim with the help of his left hand manages to bring the weapon up and sight it....he did not have the benefit of a slow motion camera and did not see his attacker step slightly backward...his perception was that the attacker still posed a threat--one needs to remember this all happened very fast. And indeed it was very possible that the black thug might have decided to rush him. Not like it has not happened before....remember the black dude was doped up and in his state of altered reality there is telling what he might have done.

One thing for sure he had not retreated to enough of a distance to no longer pose a threat.

Unfortunately, the Jury did not appreciate how fast all of this happened....being misled by watching it frame by frame in slow motion. They did not grasp how quickly Drejka had to decide to shoot or not to shoot....and in fear of his life and or further bodily injury he pulled the trigger.

No basis to assume he was not in reasonable fear of his life after all that.

Thus the jury got it wrong

Now we see all this idiotic monday morning quarterbacking by folks who have not only the luxury of hindsight but also of a slow motion video and thus they also draw erroneous conclusions.

A terrible miscarriage of justice has occured and it will have ramifications as has been pointed out....essentially-- altering the basic concept of self-defense which has always been based on the perception of the victim.

Hopefully on appeal this b.s. will get rectified.

I guess you were too stupid to understand it the first time.

Believing a person who is in retreat is threatening imminent death or great bodily harm; is not a reasonable belief.

Looks to me you are just ignoring the facts in the post you're quoting just so you can spew more vile bs. That's why it's a waste of time to try to provide actual facts about anything to you filth.

Oh? What am I ignoring? I posted the video along with my observation that over a period of about 4 seconds, Drejka watched McGlockton take 4 steps away from him and begin turning away as he shot him in the side.

What part of that do you see differently in the video...?

And I care why?

Another dead Negro..

Another racist asshole chimes in! Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!

Isn't there a cross burning you should be attending somewhere?

 

[TheGreenHornet]

Everyone notice that I said no such thing. This lying garbage is just spinning and deflecting like always.

I didn't say you said it. Jeez, you're a freaking moron.

I asked you what is going to change the outcome since he was convicted on the video evidence showing McGlockton was retreating.

Sadly, you couldn't answer and gave that retarded response instead.

You are not only ignorant of the law on self defense you a exceedingly shallow thinker.

The law on simple self defense has always been based on the perception of the one under attack...if he 'reasonably' believes his life is in danger or that he may suffer grievious bodily injury then he is entitled to use lethal force.'

There is no reason to believe that he was not in reasonable fear of his life and in fact there is every reason to believe he was.

He had been violently shoved to the ground resulting in an injury to his right arm, causing him to be dazed and in a state of shock. The black dude continued to advance on him after he had shoved him to the ground.....why? Obviously he meant to continue the attack.

Fortunately for Drejka he was able to get his weapon out despite having his right arm injuredl,being dazed, disoriented and no doubt in a state of at least mild shock.


The attacker upon seeing the weapon come out was also shocked...he had sized up his victim on exiting the store and thought he would be a easy target--but lo and behold he has a gun...he recoiled at the sight of the weapon --backing up for a step or two but still facing his victim. He turned slightly but was still in striking distance of the victim. Thus still a threat.

This was all brought out in the trial but the jury must have been napping.

The victim with the help of his left hand manages to bring the weapon up and sight it....he did not have the benefit of a slow motion camera and did not see his attacker step slightly backward...his perception was that the attacker still posed a threat--one needs to remember this all happened very fast. And indeed it was very possible that the black thug might have decided to rush him. Not like it has not happened before....remember the black dude was doped up and in his state of altered reality there is telling what he might have done.

One thing for sure he had not retreated to enough of a distance to no longer pose a threat.

Unfortunately, the Jury did not appreciate how fast all of this happened....being misled by watching it frame by frame in slow motion. They did not grasp how quickly Drejka had to decide to shoot or not to shoot....and in fear of his life and or further bodily injury he pulled the trigger.

No basis to assume he was not in reasonable fear of his life after all that.

Thus the jury got it wrong

Now we see all this idiotic monday morning quarterbacking by folks who have not only the luxury of hindsight but also of a slow motion video and thus they also draw erroneous conclusions.

A terrible miscarriage of justice has occured and it will have ramifications as has been pointed out....essentially-- altering the basic concept of self-defense which has always been based on the perception of the victim.

Hopefully on appeal this b.s. will get rectified.

I guess you were too stupid to understand it the first time.

Believing a person who is in retreat is threatening imminent death or great bodily harm; is not a reasonable belief.

You should have watched the trial...first of all Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards ...that was not his perception at all.........and the expert witness on how to recognize a viable threat explained in detail that what the black did should not be considered retreating...merely repositoning himself and presenting a smaller target by turning some what to the left.

The key point you are missing is that in reality the thug was still close enough to pose a threat to his victim...very close ...well within striking distance if he wanted to rush his victim and wrestle the gun away from him and then commence to beat him.

You cannot accurately predict what the thug might have done if Drejka had not shot him. If he meant to retreat he should have taken off running and he would still be alive today...there is however a big possibility he did not want to retreat but to attack again.

Again you must remember he was under the influence and not rational. No rational man will storm out of a store and attack a stranger for just being in a argument with his wife. A reasonable person would try to figure out what was going on....no not him he just rushed out and attacked ...no questions asked.

Sorry, I just don't believe a word you're saying. I'm watching the video and seeing for myself something vastly different than what you're describing...



1:46 - McGlockton shoves Drejka, knocking him to the ground

1:48 - Drejka sits up and is looking directly at McGlockton

1:49 - Drejka, still looking at McGlockton, reaches into his clothes. McGlockton sees this and takes 2 steps backwards.

1:50 - Drejka pulls out a gun while still looking at McGlockton. McGlockton takes 2 mores steps backwards

1:51 - McGlockton turns away from Drejka to his right

1:52 - Drejka shoots McGlockton on his left side.

From the time Drejka sat up until he shot McGlockton, he never once took his eyes off of him. So your claim that "Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards," is pure bullshit. What the video shows is Drejka watching McGlockton as he took 4 steps backwards and began turning away from him over a period of about 4 seconds. And the claim McGlockton was possibly repositioning himself to lunge at Drejka doesn't fly, in my opinion; since Drejka had his gun trained on McGlockton, who was about 10 feet away and walking backwards. Drejka would still have had ample opportunity to shoot McGlockton had he lunged at him.

First of all you cannot clearly see the black guys feet....a witness is in between the camera view and his feet. Nor can you accurately judge from the video how many feet
the black guy is from Drejka....this was brought out in the trial which you did not watch...and furthermore and shockingly the police did not even measure the distances...so how many feet the perp is away from his victim is a matter of conjecture.

The defense made a big point of the fact that the police did not actually measure the distances involved....a key factor.

Also once again and anyone who has been involved in a traumatic event knows this....that you focus on the threat...sighting your gun...and in such a state of mind and under heavy stress with your life in the balance many details can be missed.....completely understandable...again all brought out in the trial.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

You are not only ignorant of the law on self defense you a exceedingly shallow thinker.

The law on simple self defense has always been based on the perception of the one under attack...if he 'reasonably' believes his life is in danger or that he may suffer grievious bodily injury then he is entitled to use lethal force.'

There is no reason to believe that he was not in reasonable fear of his life and in fact there is every reason to believe he was.

He had been violently shoved to the ground resulting in an injury to his right arm, causing him to be dazed and in a state of shock. The black dude continued to advance on him after he had shoved him to the ground.....why? Obviously he meant to continue the attack.

Fortunately for Drejka he was able to get his weapon out despite having his right arm injuredl,being dazed, disoriented and no doubt in a state of at least mild shock.


The attacker upon seeing the weapon come out was also shocked...he had sized up his victim on exiting the store and thought he would be a easy target--but lo and behold he has a gun...he recoiled at the sight of the weapon --backing up for a step or two but still facing his victim. He turned slightly but was still in striking distance of the victim. Thus still a threat.

This was all brought out in the trial but the jury must have been napping.

The victim with the help of his left hand manages to bring the weapon up and sight it....he did not have the benefit of a slow motion camera and did not see his attacker step slightly backward...his perception was that the attacker still posed a threat--one needs to remember this all happened very fast. And indeed it was very possible that the black thug might have decided to rush him. Not like it has not happened before....remember the black dude was doped up and in his state of altered reality there is telling what he might have done.

One thing for sure he had not retreated to enough of a distance to no longer pose a threat.

Unfortunately, the Jury did not appreciate how fast all of this happened....being misled by watching it frame by frame in slow motion. They did not grasp how quickly Drejka had to decide to shoot or not to shoot....and in fear of his life and or further bodily injury he pulled the trigger.

No basis to assume he was not in reasonable fear of his life after all that.

Thus the jury got it wrong

Now we see all this idiotic monday morning quarterbacking by folks who have not only the luxury of hindsight but also of a slow motion video and thus they also draw erroneous conclusions.

A terrible miscarriage of justice has occured and it will have ramifications as has been pointed out....essentially-- altering the basic concept of self-defense which has always been based on the perception of the victim.

Hopefully on appeal this b.s. will get rectified.

I guess you were too stupid to understand it the first time.

Believing a person who is in retreat is threatening imminent death or great bodily harm; is not a reasonable belief.

Looks to me you are just ignoring the facts in the post you're quoting just so you can spew more vile bs. That's why it's a waste of time to try to provide actual facts about anything to you filth.

Oh? What am I ignoring? I posted the video along with my observation that over a period of about 4 seconds, Drejka watched McGlockton take 4 steps away from him and begin turning away as he shot him in the side.

What part of that do you see differently in the video...?

And I care why?

Another dead Negro..

Another racist asshole chimes in! Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!

Isn't there a cross burning you should be attending somewhere?

hehheh calm down old man...you should not get so excited at your age...you best go and check your blood pressure and take your meds before you stroke out.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I didn't say you said it. Jeez, you're a freaking moron.

I asked you what is going to change the outcome since he was convicted on the video evidence showing McGlockton was retreating.

Sadly, you couldn't answer and gave that retarded response instead.

You are not only ignorant of the law on self defense you a exceedingly shallow thinker.

The law on simple self defense has always been based on the perception of the one under attack...if he 'reasonably' believes his life is in danger or that he may suffer grievious bodily injury then he is entitled to use lethal force.'

There is no reason to believe that he was not in reasonable fear of his life and in fact there is every reason to believe he was.

He had been violently shoved to the ground resulting in an injury to his right arm, causing him to be dazed and in a state of shock. The black dude continued to advance on him after he had shoved him to the ground.....why? Obviously he meant to continue the attack.

Fortunately for Drejka he was able to get his weapon out despite having his right arm injuredl,being dazed, disoriented and no doubt in a state of at least mild shock.


The attacker upon seeing the weapon come out was also shocked...he had sized up his victim on exiting the store and thought he would be a easy target--but lo and behold he has a gun...he recoiled at the sight of the weapon --backing up for a step or two but still facing his victim. He turned slightly but was still in striking distance of the victim. Thus still a threat.

This was all brought out in the trial but the jury must have been napping.

The victim with the help of his left hand manages to bring the weapon up and sight it....he did not have the benefit of a slow motion camera and did not see his attacker step slightly backward...his perception was that the attacker still posed a threat--one needs to remember this all happened very fast. And indeed it was very possible that the black thug might have decided to rush him. Not like it has not happened before....remember the black dude was doped up and in his state of altered reality there is telling what he might have done.

One thing for sure he had not retreated to enough of a distance to no longer pose a threat.

Unfortunately, the Jury did not appreciate how fast all of this happened....being misled by watching it frame by frame in slow motion. They did not grasp how quickly Drejka had to decide to shoot or not to shoot....and in fear of his life and or further bodily injury he pulled the trigger.

No basis to assume he was not in reasonable fear of his life after all that.

Thus the jury got it wrong

Now we see all this idiotic monday morning quarterbacking by folks who have not only the luxury of hindsight but also of a slow motion video and thus they also draw erroneous conclusions.

A terrible miscarriage of justice has occured and it will have ramifications as has been pointed out....essentially-- altering the basic concept of self-defense which has always been based on the perception of the victim.

Hopefully on appeal this b.s. will get rectified.

I guess you were too stupid to understand it the first time.

Believing a person who is in retreat is threatening imminent death or great bodily harm; is not a reasonable belief.

You should have watched the trial...first of all Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards ...that was not his perception at all.........and the expert witness on how to recognize a viable threat explained in detail that what the black did should not be considered retreating...merely repositoning himself and presenting a smaller target by turning some what to the left.

The key point you are missing is that in reality the thug was still close enough to pose a threat to his victim...very close ...well within striking distance if he wanted to rush his victim and wrestle the gun away from him and then commence to beat him.

You cannot accurately predict what the thug might have done if Drejka had not shot him. If he meant to retreat he should have taken off running and he would still be alive today...there is however a big possibility he did not want to retreat but to attack again.

Again you must remember he was under the influence and not rational. No rational man will storm out of a store and attack a stranger for just being in a argument with his wife. A reasonable person would try to figure out what was going on....no not him he just rushed out and attacked ...no questions asked.

Sorry, I just don't believe a word you're saying. I'm watching the video and seeing for myself something vastly different than what you're describing...



1:46 - McGlockton shoves Drejka, knocking him to the ground

1:48 - Drejka sits up and is looking directly at McGlockton

1:49 - Drejka, still looking at McGlockton, reaches into his clothes. McGlockton sees this and takes 2 steps backwards.

1:50 - Drejka pulls out a gun while still looking at McGlockton. McGlockton takes 2 mores steps backwards

1:51 - McGlockton turns away from Drejka to his right

1:52 - Drejka shoots McGlockton on his left side.

From the time Drejka sat up until he shot McGlockton, he never once took his eyes off of him. So your claim that "Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards," is pure bullshit. What the video shows is Drejka watching McGlockton as he took 4 steps backwards and began turning away from him over a period of about 4 seconds. And the claim McGlockton was possibly repositioning himself to lunge at Drejka doesn't fly, in my opinion; since Drejka had his gun trained on McGlockton, who was about 10 feet away and walking backwards. Drejka would still have had ample opportunity to shoot McGlockton had he lunged at him.

First of all you cannot clearly see the black guys feet....a witness is in between the camera view and his feet. Nor can you accurately judge from the video how many feet
the black guy is from Drejka....this was brought out in the trial which you did not watch...and furthermore and shockingly the police did not even measure the distances...so how many feet the perp is away from his victim is a matter of conjecture.

The defense made a big point of the fact that the police did not actually measure the distances involved....a key factor.

Also once again and anyone who has been involved in a traumatic event knows this....that you focus on the threat...sighting your gun...and in such a state of mind with your life in the balance many details can be missed.....completely understandable...again all brought out in the trial.

I go go back there today with the video and tell you down to the millimeter how far away they were. You are a fucking excuse factory and a damn poor one at that.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I guess you were too stupid to understand it the first time.

Believing a person who is in retreat is threatening imminent death or great bodily harm; is not a reasonable belief.

Looks to me you are just ignoring the facts in the post you're quoting just so you can spew more vile bs. That's why it's a waste of time to try to provide actual facts about anything to you filth.

Oh? What am I ignoring? I posted the video along with my observation that over a period of about 4 seconds, Drejka watched McGlockton take 4 steps away from him and begin turning away as he shot him in the side.

What part of that do you see differently in the video...?

And I care why?

Another dead Negro..

Another racist asshole chimes in! Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!

Isn't there a cross burning you should be attending somewhere?

hehheh calm down old man...you should not get so excited at your age...you best go and check your blood pressure and take your meds before you stroke out.

How about you go take YOUR meds. You know the ones you take for mental illness!

 

[miketx]

I guess you were too stupid to understand it the first time.

Believing a person who is in retreat is threatening imminent death or great bodily harm; is not a reasonable belief.

Looks to me you are just ignoring the facts in the post you're quoting just so you can spew more vile bs. That's why it's a waste of time to try to provide actual facts about anything to you filth.

Oh? What am I ignoring? I posted the video along with my observation that over a period of about 4 seconds, Drejka watched McGlockton take 4 steps away from him and begin turning away as he shot him in the side.

What part of that do you see differently in the video...?

And I care why?

Another dead Negro..

Another racist asshole chimes in! Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!

Isn't there a cross burning you should be attending somewhere?

hehheh calm down old man...you should not get so excited at your age...you best go and check your blood pressure and take your meds before you stroke out.

That progressive scumbag evidently loves it when someone gets screwed over for defending themselves against a drug headed black criminal.

 

[Faun]

I didn't say you said it. Jeez, you're a freaking moron.

I asked you what is going to change the outcome since he was convicted on the video evidence showing McGlockton was retreating.

Sadly, you couldn't answer and gave that retarded response instead.

You are not only ignorant of the law on self defense you a exceedingly shallow thinker.

The law on simple self defense has always been based on the perception of the one under attack...if he 'reasonably' believes his life is in danger or that he may suffer grievious bodily injury then he is entitled to use lethal force.'

There is no reason to believe that he was not in reasonable fear of his life and in fact there is every reason to believe he was.

He had been violently shoved to the ground resulting in an injury to his right arm, causing him to be dazed and in a state of shock. The black dude continued to advance on him after he had shoved him to the ground.....why? Obviously he meant to continue the attack.

Fortunately for Drejka he was able to get his weapon out despite having his right arm injuredl,being dazed, disoriented and no doubt in a state of at least mild shock.


The attacker upon seeing the weapon come out was also shocked...he had sized up his victim on exiting the store and thought he would be a easy target--but lo and behold he has a gun...he recoiled at the sight of the weapon --backing up for a step or two but still facing his victim. He turned slightly but was still in striking distance of the victim. Thus still a threat.

This was all brought out in the trial but the jury must have been napping.

The victim with the help of his left hand manages to bring the weapon up and sight it....he did not have the benefit of a slow motion camera and did not see his attacker step slightly backward...his perception was that the attacker still posed a threat--one needs to remember this all happened very fast. And indeed it was very possible that the black thug might have decided to rush him. Not like it has not happened before....remember the black dude was doped up and in his state of altered reality there is telling what he might have done.

One thing for sure he had not retreated to enough of a distance to no longer pose a threat.

Unfortunately, the Jury did not appreciate how fast all of this happened....being misled by watching it frame by frame in slow motion. They did not grasp how quickly Drejka had to decide to shoot or not to shoot....and in fear of his life and or further bodily injury he pulled the trigger.

No basis to assume he was not in reasonable fear of his life after all that.

Thus the jury got it wrong

Now we see all this idiotic monday morning quarterbacking by folks who have not only the luxury of hindsight but also of a slow motion video and thus they also draw erroneous conclusions.

A terrible miscarriage of justice has occured and it will have ramifications as has been pointed out....essentially-- altering the basic concept of self-defense which has always been based on the perception of the victim.

Hopefully on appeal this b.s. will get rectified.

I guess you were too stupid to understand it the first time.

Believing a person who is in retreat is threatening imminent death or great bodily harm; is not a reasonable belief.

Looks to me you are just ignoring the facts in the post you're quoting just so you can spew more vile bs. That's why it's a waste of time to try to provide actual facts about anything to you filth.

Oh? What am I ignoring? I posted the video along with my observation that over a period of about 4 seconds, Drejka watched McGlockton take 4 steps away from him and begin turning away as he shot him in the side.

What part of that do you see differently in the video...?

And I care why?

Another dead Negro..

I didn't ask you. Why would I care what an unabashed racist thinks?

 

[miketx]

I didn't say you said it. Jeez, you're a freaking moron.

I asked you what is going to change the outcome since he was convicted on the video evidence showing McGlockton was retreating.

Sadly, you couldn't answer and gave that retarded response instead.

You are not only ignorant of the law on self defense you a exceedingly shallow thinker.

The law on simple self defense has always been based on the perception of the one under attack...if he 'reasonably' believes his life is in danger or that he may suffer grievious bodily injury then he is entitled to use lethal force.'

There is no reason to believe that he was not in reasonable fear of his life and in fact there is every reason to believe he was.

He had been violently shoved to the ground resulting in an injury to his right arm, causing him to be dazed and in a state of shock. The black dude continued to advance on him after he had shoved him to the ground.....why? Obviously he meant to continue the attack.

Fortunately for Drejka he was able to get his weapon out despite having his right arm injuredl,being dazed, disoriented and no doubt in a state of at least mild shock.


The attacker upon seeing the weapon come out was also shocked...he had sized up his victim on exiting the store and thought he would be a easy target--but lo and behold he has a gun...he recoiled at the sight of the weapon --backing up for a step or two but still facing his victim. He turned slightly but was still in striking distance of the victim. Thus still a threat.

This was all brought out in the trial but the jury must have been napping.

The victim with the help of his left hand manages to bring the weapon up and sight it....he did not have the benefit of a slow motion camera and did not see his attacker step slightly backward...his perception was that the attacker still posed a threat--one needs to remember this all happened very fast. And indeed it was very possible that the black thug might have decided to rush him. Not like it has not happened before....remember the black dude was doped up and in his state of altered reality there is telling what he might have done.

One thing for sure he had not retreated to enough of a distance to no longer pose a threat.

Unfortunately, the Jury did not appreciate how fast all of this happened....being misled by watching it frame by frame in slow motion. They did not grasp how quickly Drejka had to decide to shoot or not to shoot....and in fear of his life and or further bodily injury he pulled the trigger.

No basis to assume he was not in reasonable fear of his life after all that.

Thus the jury got it wrong

Now we see all this idiotic monday morning quarterbacking by folks who have not only the luxury of hindsight but also of a slow motion video and thus they also draw erroneous conclusions.

A terrible miscarriage of justice has occured and it will have ramifications as has been pointed out....essentially-- altering the basic concept of self-defense which has always been based on the perception of the victim.

Hopefully on appeal this b.s. will get rectified.

I guess you were too stupid to understand it the first time.

Believing a person who is in retreat is threatening imminent death or great bodily harm; is not a reasonable belief.

You should have watched the trial...first of all Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards ...that was not his perception at all.........and the expert witness on how to recognize a viable threat explained in detail that what the black did should not be considered retreating...merely repositoning himself and presenting a smaller target by turning some what to the left.

The key point you are missing is that in reality the thug was still close enough to pose a threat to his victim...very close ...well within striking distance if he wanted to rush his victim and wrestle the gun away from him and then commence to beat him.

You cannot accurately predict what the thug might have done if Drejka had not shot him. If he meant to retreat he should have taken off running and he would still be alive today...there is however a big possibility he did not want to retreat but to attack again.

Again you must remember he was under the influence and not rational. No rational man will storm out of a store and attack a stranger for just being in a argument with his wife. A reasonable person would try to figure out what was going on....no not him he just rushed out and attacked ...no questions asked.

Sorry, I just don't believe a word you're saying. I'm watching the video and seeing for myself something vastly different than what you're describing...



1:46 - McGlockton shoves Drejka, knocking him to the ground

1:48 - Drejka sits up and is looking directly at McGlockton

1:49 - Drejka, still looking at McGlockton, reaches into his clothes. McGlockton sees this and takes 2 steps backwards.

1:50 - Drejka pulls out a gun while still looking at McGlockton. McGlockton takes 2 mores steps backwards

1:51 - McGlockton turns away from Drejka to his right

1:52 - Drejka shoots McGlockton on his left side.

From the time Drejka sat up until he shot McGlockton, he never once took his eyes off of him. So your claim that "Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards," is pure bullshit. What the video shows is Drejka watching McGlockton as he took 4 steps backwards and began turning away from him over a period of about 4 seconds. And the claim McGlockton was possibly repositioning himself to lunge at Drejka doesn't fly, in my opinion; since Drejka had his gun trained on McGlockton, who was about 10 feet away and walking backwards. Drejka would still have had ample opportunity to shoot McGlockton had he lunged at him.

First of all you cannot clearly see the black guys feet....a witness is in between the camera view and his feet. Nor can you accurately judge from the video how many feet
the black guy is from Drejka....this was brought out in the trial which you did not watch...and furthermore and shockingly the police did not even measure the distances...so how many feet the perp is away from his victim is a matter of conjecture.

The defense made a big point of the fact that the police did not actually measure the distances involved....a key factor.

Also once again and anyone who has been involved in a traumatic event knows this....that you focus on the threat...sighting your gun...and in such a state of mind with your life in the balance many details can be missed.....completely understandable...again all brought out in the trial.

The same set of events happen when police are shooting in self defense and the suspect gets shot in the back because he spun around an instant before the bullets left the gun.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Looks to me you are just ignoring the facts in the post you're quoting just so you can spew more vile bs. That's why it's a waste of time to try to provide actual facts about anything to you filth.

Oh? What am I ignoring? I posted the video along with my observation that over a period of about 4 seconds, Drejka watched McGlockton take 4 steps away from him and begin turning away as he shot him in the side.

What part of that do you see differently in the video...?

And I care why?

Another dead Negro..

Another racist asshole chimes in! Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!

Isn't there a cross burning you should be attending somewhere?

hehheh calm down old man...you should not get so excited at your age...you best go and check your blood pressure and take your meds before you stroke out.

That progressive scumbag evidently loves it when someone gets screwed over for defending themselves against a drug headed black criminal.

Which progressive scumbag are you referring to? There are three racist assholes in this thread and a few more respectable individuals who believe in the rule of law.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You are not only ignorant of the law on self defense you a exceedingly shallow thinker.

The law on simple self defense has always been based on the perception of the one under attack...if he 'reasonably' believes his life is in danger or that he may suffer grievious bodily injury then he is entitled to use lethal force.'

There is no reason to believe that he was not in reasonable fear of his life and in fact there is every reason to believe he was.

He had been violently shoved to the ground resulting in an injury to his right arm, causing him to be dazed and in a state of shock. The black dude continued to advance on him after he had shoved him to the ground.....why? Obviously he meant to continue the attack.

Fortunately for Drejka he was able to get his weapon out despite having his right arm injuredl,being dazed, disoriented and no doubt in a state of at least mild shock.


The attacker upon seeing the weapon come out was also shocked...he had sized up his victim on exiting the store and thought he would be a easy target--but lo and behold he has a gun...he recoiled at the sight of the weapon --backing up for a step or two but still facing his victim. He turned slightly but was still in striking distance of the victim. Thus still a threat.

This was all brought out in the trial but the jury must have been napping.

The victim with the help of his left hand manages to bring the weapon up and sight it....he did not have the benefit of a slow motion camera and did not see his attacker step slightly backward...his perception was that the attacker still posed a threat--one needs to remember this all happened very fast. And indeed it was very possible that the black thug might have decided to rush him. Not like it has not happened before....remember the black dude was doped up and in his state of altered reality there is telling what he might have done.

One thing for sure he had not retreated to enough of a distance to no longer pose a threat.

Unfortunately, the Jury did not appreciate how fast all of this happened....being misled by watching it frame by frame in slow motion. They did not grasp how quickly Drejka had to decide to shoot or not to shoot....and in fear of his life and or further bodily injury he pulled the trigger.

No basis to assume he was not in reasonable fear of his life after all that.

Thus the jury got it wrong

Now we see all this idiotic monday morning quarterbacking by folks who have not only the luxury of hindsight but also of a slow motion video and thus they also draw erroneous conclusions.

A terrible miscarriage of justice has occured and it will have ramifications as has been pointed out....essentially-- altering the basic concept of self-defense which has always been based on the perception of the victim.

Hopefully on appeal this b.s. will get rectified.

I guess you were too stupid to understand it the first time.

Believing a person who is in retreat is threatening imminent death or great bodily harm; is not a reasonable belief.

You should have watched the trial...first of all Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards ...that was not his perception at all.........and the expert witness on how to recognize a viable threat explained in detail that what the black did should not be considered retreating...merely repositoning himself and presenting a smaller target by turning some what to the left.

The key point you are missing is that in reality the thug was still close enough to pose a threat to his victim...very close ...well within striking distance if he wanted to rush his victim and wrestle the gun away from him and then commence to beat him.

You cannot accurately predict what the thug might have done if Drejka had not shot him. If he meant to retreat he should have taken off running and he would still be alive today...there is however a big possibility he did not want to retreat but to attack again.

Again you must remember he was under the influence and not rational. No rational man will storm out of a store and attack a stranger for just being in a argument with his wife. A reasonable person would try to figure out what was going on....no not him he just rushed out and attacked ...no questions asked.

Sorry, I just don't believe a word you're saying. I'm watching the video and seeing for myself something vastly different than what you're describing...



1:46 - McGlockton shoves Drejka, knocking him to the ground

1:48 - Drejka sits up and is looking directly at McGlockton

1:49 - Drejka, still looking at McGlockton, reaches into his clothes. McGlockton sees this and takes 2 steps backwards.

1:50 - Drejka pulls out a gun while still looking at McGlockton. McGlockton takes 2 mores steps backwards

1:51 - McGlockton turns away from Drejka to his right

1:52 - Drejka shoots McGlockton on his left side.

From the time Drejka sat up until he shot McGlockton, he never once took his eyes off of him. So your claim that "Drejka had not seen him take a step or two backwards," is pure bullshit. What the video shows is Drejka watching McGlockton as he took 4 steps backwards and began turning away from him over a period of about 4 seconds. And the claim McGlockton was possibly repositioning himself to lunge at Drejka doesn't fly, in my opinion; since Drejka had his gun trained on McGlockton, who was about 10 feet away and walking backwards. Drejka would still have had ample opportunity to shoot McGlockton had he lunged at him.

First of all you cannot clearly see the black guys feet....a witness is in between the camera view and his feet. Nor can you accurately judge from the video how many feet
the black guy is from Drejka....this was brought out in the trial which you did not watch...and furthermore and shockingly the police did not even measure the distances...so how many feet the perp is away from his victim is a matter of conjecture.

The defense made a big point of the fact that the police did not actually measure the distances involved....a key factor.

Also once again and anyone who has been involved in a traumatic event knows this....that you focus on the threat...sighting your gun...and in such a state of mind with your life in the balance many details can be missed.....completely understandable...again all brought out in the trial.

The same set of events happen when police are shooting in self defense and the suspect gets shot in the back because he spun around an instant before the bullets left the gun.

That is what body cams are for!

 

[miketx]

You are not only ignorant of the law on self defense you a exceedingly shallow thinker.

The law on simple self defense has always been based on the perception of the one under attack...if he 'reasonably' believes his life is in danger or that he may suffer grievious bodily injury then he is entitled to use lethal force.'

There is no reason to believe that he was not in reasonable fear of his life and in fact there is every reason to believe he was.

He had been violently shoved to the ground resulting in an injury to his right arm, causing him to be dazed and in a state of shock. The black dude continued to advance on him after he had shoved him to the ground.....why? Obviously he meant to continue the attack.

Fortunately for Drejka he was able to get his weapon out despite having his right arm injuredl,being dazed, disoriented and no doubt in a state of at least mild shock.


The attacker upon seeing the weapon come out was also shocked...he had sized up his victim on exiting the store and thought he would be a easy target--but lo and behold he has a gun...he recoiled at the sight of the weapon --backing up for a step or two but still facing his victim. He turned slightly but was still in striking distance of the victim. Thus still a threat.

This was all brought out in the trial but the jury must have been napping.

The victim with the help of his left hand manages to bring the weapon up and sight it....he did not have the benefit of a slow motion camera and did not see his attacker step slightly backward...his perception was that the attacker still posed a threat--one needs to remember this all happened very fast. And indeed it was very possible that the black thug might have decided to rush him. Not like it has not happened before....remember the black dude was doped up and in his state of altered reality there is telling what he might have done.

One thing for sure he had not retreated to enough of a distance to no longer pose a threat.

Unfortunately, the Jury did not appreciate how fast all of this happened....being misled by watching it frame by frame in slow motion. They did not grasp how quickly Drejka had to decide to shoot or not to shoot....and in fear of his life and or further bodily injury he pulled the trigger.

No basis to assume he was not in reasonable fear of his life after all that.

Thus the jury got it wrong

Now we see all this idiotic monday morning quarterbacking by folks who have not only the luxury of hindsight but also of a slow motion video and thus they also draw erroneous conclusions.

A terrible miscarriage of justice has occured and it will have ramifications as has been pointed out....essentially-- altering the basic concept of self-defense which has always been based on the perception of the victim.

Hopefully on appeal this b.s. will get rectified.

I guess you were too stupid to understand it the first time.

Believing a person who is in retreat is threatening imminent death or great bodily harm; is not a reasonable belief.

Looks to me you are just ignoring the facts in the post you're quoting just so you can spew more vile bs. That's why it's a waste of time to try to provide actual facts about anything to you filth.

Oh? What am I ignoring? I posted the video along with my observation that over a period of about 4 seconds, Drejka watched McGlockton take 4 steps away from him and begin turning away as he shot him in the side.

What part of that do you see differently in the video...?

And I care why?

Another dead Negro..

I didn't ask you. Why would I care what an unabashed racist thinks?

Regressive liberal ROE
1. Demand a link or an explanation of the truth they are objecting to.
2. Promptly reject all explanations as right wing lies. Smoke spin deflect
3. Ignore any facts presented.
4. Ridicule spelling and typos, punctuation.
5. Attack the person as being juvenile, ie: "are you 12 years old", question their education, intelligence, Age
6. Employ misdirection,
6a. smear people
6b. attack religion
6c. attack your rationality.
7. Lie, make false assumptions
8. Play race/gender card/misogynist card
9. Play gay/lesbian card
10. Play the Nazi/Fascist/bigot card
11. Make up stuff/So you got nothing?
12. Deny constantly
13. Reword and repeat
14. Pretending not to understand, playing ignorant/what did I lie about
15. When losing, resort to personal attacks.
16. Russia
17. Fox News/Alex Jones/Brietbart/infowars/Stormfront/Gateway/hannity
18. You can’t read.
19. Trump Trump Trump TrumpTrump Trump

 

[miketx]

Oh? What am I ignoring? I posted the video along with my observation that over a period of about 4 seconds, Drejka watched McGlockton take 4 steps away from him and begin turning away as he shot him in the side.

What part of that do you see differently in the video...?

And I care why?

Another dead Negro..

Another racist asshole chimes in! Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!

Isn't there a cross burning you should be attending somewhere?

hehheh calm down old man...you should not get so excited at your age...you best go and check your blood pressure and take your meds before you stroke out.

That progressive scumbag evidently loves it when someone gets screwed over for defending themselves against a drug headed black criminal.

Which progressive scumbag are you referring to? There are three racist assholes in this thread and a few more respectable individuals who believe in the rule of law.

To you idiot.