CNN Truth Squad: Did Obama destroy the economy?

[code1211]

exactly. perfectly stated.

i think i'd lay the larger part of the blame on deregulation of banks and the last administration's refusal to fund oversight and discouragement of real enforcement.

that said, there were a lot of factors which led to the current situation. it is silly to choose any one and say it is THE cause.

what we do know is anyone who says this administration CAUSED our financial problems is a liar.

did the admin fix iit quickly enough? not to most of our liking. the why's of that can be debated. i have my own feelings about it. no doubt others will disagree.

What we should of learned, IMO, is that lassiez faire capitalism isn't the answer. The New Right has made an absurd argument that too much regulation is the cause of our economic woes and each candidate for the GOP nomination says as much.

We must learn from history, and the panics of the past. Sadly, those who lean right spend a good deal of their time revising history to advance an ideology which has proven to create booms and busts.

Too much regulation and regulating the wrong things are two different things. Also regulating the safety of products and or conditions, as a f'instance, and demanding that employers only hire union are also two different things.

The government has intruded so far into the activities of business that it now seeks to dictate to experts in industry segments how to best do their jobs.

This is insanity. It is no different thatn me telling the plumber who comes to my house to do his job in a particular way whether it makes good sense or not. He should know how to do it. What i need to do is let him work.

 

[Full-Auto]

Obama didn't cause the crisis

Thank you. Nuff said.

No it isnt

HE MADE IT WORSE.

 

[Oldstyle]

Obama didn't cause the crisis

Thank you. Nuff said.

When you resort to taking things out of context it pretty much proves your initial point was laughable.

 

[VaYank5150]

Obama didn't cause the crisis

Thank you. Nuff said.

No it isnt

HE MADE IT WORSE.

What Presidential Actions did he as President, force into law that "made it worse"?

 

[Full-Auto]

Thank you. Nuff said.

No it isnt

HE MADE IT WORSE.

What Presidential Actions did he as President, force into law that "made it worse"?

HE HASNT NEEDED LAW

Fishing, oil are just a couple of the industries he has brought to a halt or slowed way down depending on your perspective.

Are you now going to try to argue that blocking the pipeline is a job creator?

 

[code1211]

Duh...blaming Obama for the economy is like blaming your hangover on the guy cleaning up your puke and making you breakfast.

That's not an accurate anaolgy.

Blaming Obama for the economy is like blaming the guy you hired you clean up your puke and make your breakfast for not having cleaned up your puke and made your breakfast at any time during the three years that you've been payig him to clean up your puke and make you breakfast.

Are you getting tired, at all tired, of stepping over your puke and not getting breakfast yet?

By now, allot of guys would have forgotten the hangover, the party, the bartender and the drinks and might be focusing on the puke that's still in the middle of the floor and the breakfast that still has not been made.

Some might even be asking, "If I hired this joker to clean up my puke and make me breakfast and it's been three years and the puke's not cleaned up and he never makes me breakfast, I wonder what the hell he's been doing..."

Sorry, your analogy is flawed.

Every time President Obama bent over to clean up the puke, the GnOP pushed him over into it...or ran around making more puke piles each time he got one of them cleaned up.

Was that true during the two years that he had the majorities in the Congress and the Republicans were effectively duct taped into a chair watching as he repeatedly fell into the puke pushed by the leadership in both houses?

 

[Truthmatters]

Try google, you will even find where Obama threatened to tell america who the bond holders were if they disagreed.

I cant google your insite which you claim on the subject.

You made a claim, can you flesh it out or not?

I knew you would be a useless pussy

Obama threatens to expose bod holders - Bing

why cant you defend what you claim by yourself with some facts rather than giving some google to a hack site to do it?

 

[Full-Auto]

I cant google your insite which you claim on the subject.

You made a claim, can you flesh it out or not?

I knew you would be a useless pussy

Obama threatens to expose bod holders - Bing

why cant you defend what you claim by yourself with some facts rather than giving some google to a hack site to do it?

Simply you are not worth the time.

The bing link is more then adequate for proving my point.

Now crawl back into your denial.

 

[Oldstyle]

One should hope this nonsense is behind us, and we can come together to work in good faith to address the Nation’s issues.

How is that even possible when one party's (stated, mind you) goal is the President's failure?

A good economy is bad for Republicans...many have even said so in public. They've shown a propensity to shoot the hostages before. Why should now be any different?

Gee, Wytch...the Republicans were against Barack Obama's agenda...something they "stated" quite clearly. They were against it because they said it was bad policy. After almost three years of the Obama Administration...who was right?

It's time to face facts, Kiddies...Barack Obama's been in over his head since he stepped into the Oval Office. He let Larry Summers and Timmy Geithner play with the economy because he's clueless on the subject. He let Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid handle crafting legislation because he's even worse at that. The only part of his Administration that hasn't been a total cluster bomb has been Defense and that's because he had Robert Gates stay on from the Bush Administration.

 

[bripat9643]

Obama didn't cause the crisis

Thank you. Nuff said.

He didn't cause it all by himself. However, he was part of the gang that did cause the problem. He opposed reigning in Fanny May and Freddie Mac. We voted for TARP. He took an active part in suing banks that didn't conform to CRA.

No one in the government has hands that are dirtier than Obama's.

 

[code1211]

So you seem to think the republicans want a monarchy too?

which party do you think can deliver a Monarchy like you want to see here?

Both parties strive mightily to centralize power into Washington. The Democrats do it as a matter of policy while the Republicans do it in spite of their stated goals.

Doesn't make much difference, really...

If a guy shoots your through the head, when your head explodes, it doesn't make much difference if the guy was only cleaning his gun or if he aimed before he pulled the trigger.

With either party, our wealth, rights and freedoms are being sucked down a black hole in DC.

But you want it sucked into the black hole of ONE families pocket.

Why do you defend republicans over democrats?

I will defend anyone who espouses Conservative ideas and policies. Neither party is really very Conservative, but there seem to be more doing this on the Republican side than on the Democrat side.

The Democrats are so opposed to following a plan for their programs that they refuse to even submit a budget. The only job, the one and only job, of any elected official is plan and execute the wise expenditure of tax revenues.

If the Dems gain the least little bit of maturity in their approach to problem resolution, I will be the first to be delighted. Right now it's just class warfare and place the blame. No ideas. No solutions. No plans and no guts.

Dems are the political equivilant of children spending daddy's money. The Republicans are only marginally better.

 

[Oldstyle]

That's not an accurate anaolgy.

Blaming Obama for the economy is like blaming the guy you hired you clean up your puke and make your breakfast for not having cleaned up your puke and made your breakfast at any time during the three years that you've been payig him to clean up your puke and make you breakfast.

Are you getting tired, at all tired, of stepping over your puke and not getting breakfast yet?

By now, allot of guys would have forgotten the hangover, the party, the bartender and the drinks and might be focusing on the puke that's still in the middle of the floor and the breakfast that still has not been made.

Some might even be asking, "If I hired this joker to clean up my puke and make me breakfast and it's been three years and the puke's not cleaned up and he never makes me breakfast, I wonder what the hell he's been doing..."

Sorry, your analogy is flawed.

Every time President Obama bent over to clean up the puke, the GnOP pushed him over into it...or ran around making more puke piles each time he got one of them cleaned up.

Was that true during the two years that he had the majorities in the Congress and the Republicans were effectively duct taped into a chair watching as he repeatedly fell into the puke pushed by the leadership in both houses?

Who knew when the Democrats swept into office in 2008 in a landslide that their "success" would ultimately be their undoing? Progressives on this board try to blame Republican "obstructionism" for nothing going right for this Administration but in order to pull that off they need everyone to sort of "forget" about those super majorities that Obama had to work with. It's rather an amusing thing to watch...

 

[VaYank5150]

No it isnt

HE MADE IT WORSE.

What Presidential Actions did he as President, force into law that "made it worse"?

HE HASNT NEEDED LAW

Fishing, oil are just a couple of the industries he has brought to a halt or slowed way down depending on your perspective.

Are you now going to try to argue that blocking the pipeline is a job creator?

So, Obama did WHAT, specifically? Doesn't Congress pass laws?

 

[Seawytch]

Was that true during the two years that he had the majorities in the Congress and the Republicans were effectively duct taped into a chair watching as he repeatedly fell into the puke pushed by the leadership in both houses?

 

[Full-Auto]

What Presidential Actions did he as President, force into law that "made it worse"?

HE HASNT NEEDED LAW

Fishing, oil are just a couple of the industries he has brought to a halt or slowed way down depending on your perspective.

Are you now going to try to argue that blocking the pipeline is a job creator?

So, Obama did WHAT, specifically? Doesn't Congress pass laws?

Now you are playing stupid. Is it intentional?

 

[GoneBezerk]

The economy when Bush was in the White House went south when Reid and Pelosi took power over Congress. Yes dumbfuck, liberals like you were harming the economy from Congress while Bush was in the White House with their "look the other way" strategy regarding the mortgage industry crisis that was looming.

The CRA put in place by liberals like you back in the 70s and put on steroids under Clinton finally blew up in our face when idiots like you finally quit paying for your piece of shit homes on the taxpayer dime. Liberals like you in Congress stopped the Bush Admin a handful of times from putting tighter standards on loans to idiots like you since it was "racist" to do it. Black people are supposed to be allowed to buy homes they cannot afford and not pay on them because of slavery and civil rights.

Fast forward to Obamination taking over the White House with his lies to his threats of cap & tax, EPA regulations on businesses, constant threats of increasing the corporate rate that is high among G8 countries, green energy bullshit push on our economic system, etc and then most people with a clue see the disaster he has created.

Him claiming the Porkulus package would prevent the unemployment rate from going up to 9% and it hit 10% under his dumbass after you liberals passed his Porkulus package without even reading the damn bill.

So at the end of the day, you and CNN are full of shit....but you're both too stupid to know it.

The verdict:

False. The Obama administration's much-criticized efforts to revive the economy may not have lived up to their billing, but statistics show the bulk of the damage was done before he was sworn in.

Say it with me now...."Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh"

CNN Truth Squad: Did Obama destroy the economy? - CNN.com

 

[Oldstyle]

What Presidential Actions did he as President, force into law that "made it worse"?

HE HASNT NEEDED LAW

Fishing, oil are just a couple of the industries he has brought to a halt or slowed way down depending on your perspective.

Are you now going to try to argue that blocking the pipeline is a job creator?

So, Obama did WHAT, specifically? Doesn't Congress pass laws?

He appointed Progressive ideologues to head up the EPA and the Department of the Interior who then enforced new regulations without ever consulting Congress.

 

[auditor0007]

The verdict:

False. The Obama administration's much-criticized efforts to revive the economy may not have lived up to their billing, but statistics show the bulk of the damage was done before he was sworn in.

Say it with me now...."Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh"

CNN Truth Squad: Did Obama destroy the economy? - CNN.com

While I agree that Obama is not responsible for this mess, it really is much more complicated than just blaming it all on Boooooooooooooooooosh.

 

[VaYank5150]

HE HASNT NEEDED LAW

Fishing, oil are just a couple of the industries he has brought to a halt or slowed way down depending on your perspective.

Are you now going to try to argue that blocking the pipeline is a job creator?

So, Obama did WHAT, specifically? Doesn't Congress pass laws?

Now you are playing stupid. Is it intentional?

OK, that is twice you have refused to answer what should be a VERY easy question for an Obama hater such as yourself. Three strikes and you're out...

 

[VaYank5150]

HE HASNT NEEDED LAW

Fishing, oil are just a couple of the industries he has brought to a halt or slowed way down depending on your perspective.

Are you now going to try to argue that blocking the pipeline is a job creator?

So, Obama did WHAT, specifically? Doesn't Congress pass laws?

He appointed Progressive ideologues to head up the EPA and the Department of the Interior who then enforce new regulations without ever consulting Congress.

And these new regulations are unnecessary?