Banning Russian Oil Will Just Spread Ukrainian Severe Pain To Americans!

JimofPennsylvan

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Those members of Congress preparing legislation to ban in America the purchase of Russian oil and not guaranteeing replacing that oil with U.S. produced oil should be ashamed of themselves. In effect what they will be doing is increasing severe financial pain on American families due to increased cost to fill their cars with gasoline, and increased gas and electric bills because carbon fuels move in tandem; when the price of oil goes up so does natural gas and coal. In effect what this legislation would do is make these Washington politicians feel and look good at the expense of ordinary Americans. Any competent legislator could draft legislation dramatically increasing oil and natural gas production in the U.S. but Washington legislators don't want to do it because it would unleash a backlash from the incredibly powerful anti-carbon fuel lobby in America and costs Democrats and moderate Republicans that vote for such legislation their seat in Congress in large numbers. This nation wide embarrassment dysfunction of Washington right now where millions of Ukrainians are experiencing the carnage and horror of World War II and Congress cannot put together and pass a joint import oil ban and an increased domestic oil production bill is just another compelling reason why America needs to change their constitution to fix Washington. America needs to limit Senators to two terms, House Members to five; draw congressional districts by algorithm with compactness of districts being the controlling factor and limit financial contributions in elections using money in elections is not equivalent to free speech. You opportunists in Congress behind this legislation you will likely succeed in your Russian oil ban and it won't make a damn bit of difference because countries like India and China will continue to buy lake size quantities of Russian oil!
 
Banning Russian oil (when most of Russia’s economy is based on oil) will not spread Ukraine’s pain to the US. Ukraine’s pain is war, mass deaths, violent destruction of infrastructure, homes etc. By very stark contrast, the US would likely feel only some economic disruptions.

HOWEVER, the sanction on Russia might persuade either Putin or the other Russian leaders to end the Russian war in Ukraine. I don’t want to sound like a Brandon supporter, but if this sanctions stuff works, I’ll be the first to offer a public congratulations to him; and acknowledge my error in doubting the efficacy of sanctions, sanctions, sanctions.
 
Sleepy Joe can fix it with the stroke of a pen. Open Keystone and federal land oil sites. Cut federal fuel taxes. Lots of ways to keep gas prices down AND still not accept Russian oil. Russian oil requires a lot of extra steps to clean it and make it okay to use here. You'd think those environmentalists would be cheering a ban.
 
Banning Russian oil (when most of Russia’s economy is based on oil) will not spread Ukraine’s pain to the US. Ukraine’s pain is war, mass deaths, violent destruction of infrastructure, homes etc. By very stark contrast, the US would likely feel only some economic disruptions.

HOWEVER, the sanction on Russia might persuade either Putin or the other Russian leaders to end the Russian war in Ukraine. I don’t want to sound like a Brandon supporter, but if this sanctions stuff works, I’ll be the first to offer a public congratulations to him; and acknowledge my error in doubting the efficacy of sanctions, sanctions, sanctions.
Time to stop supporting Putin and start cranking out or own oil production again Poopeypants.
 
Those members of Congress preparing legislation to ban in America the purchase of Russian oil and not guaranteeing replacing that oil with U.S. produced oil should be ashamed of themselves. In effect what they will be doing is increasing severe financial pain on American families due to increased cost to fill their cars with gasoline, and increased gas and electric bills because carbon fuels move in tandem; when the price of oil goes up so does natural gas and coal. In effect what this legislation would do is make these Washington politicians feel and look good at the expense of ordinary Americans. Any competent legislator could draft legislation dramatically increasing oil and natural gas production in the U.S. but Washington legislators don't want to do it because it would unleash a backlash from the incredibly powerful anti-carbon fuel lobby in America and costs Democrats and moderate Republicans that vote for such legislation their seat in Congress in large numbers. This nation wide embarrassment dysfunction of Washington right now where millions of Ukrainians are experiencing the carnage and horror of World War II and Congress cannot put together and pass a joint import oil ban and an increased domestic oil production bill is just another compelling reason why America needs to change their constitution to fix Washington. America needs to limit Senators to two terms, House Members to five; draw congressional districts by algorithm with compactness of districts being the controlling factor and limit financial contributions in elections using money in elections is not equivalent to free speech. You opportunists in Congress behind this legislation you will likely succeed in your Russian oil ban and it won't make a damn bit of difference because countries like India and China will continue to buy lake size quantities of Russian oil!
If we go back to drilling and fracking and finish the keystone pipeline we could put Putin out of business...Trump knew this so why doesn't Biden?... could it be that Hunter has made too much money from Russian crooks and millionaires?.....
 
Those members of Congress preparing legislation to ban in America the purchase of Russian oil and not guaranteeing replacing that oil with U.S. produced oil should be ashamed of themselves. In effect what they will be doing is increasing severe financial pain on American families due to increased cost to fill their cars with gasoline, and increased gas and electric bills because carbon fuels move in tandem; when the price of oil goes up so does natural gas and coal. In effect what this legislation would do is make these Washington politicians feel and look good at the expense of ordinary Americans. Any competent legislator could draft legislation dramatically increasing oil and natural gas production in the U.S. but Washington legislators don't want to do it because it would unleash a backlash from the incredibly powerful anti-carbon fuel lobby in America and costs Democrats and moderate Republicans that vote for such legislation their seat in Congress in large numbers. This nation wide embarrassment dysfunction of Washington right now where millions of Ukrainians are experiencing the carnage and horror of World War II and Congress cannot put together and pass a joint import oil ban and an increased domestic oil production bill is just another compelling reason why America needs to change their constitution to fix Washington. America needs to limit Senators to two terms, House Members to five; draw congressional districts by algorithm with compactness of districts being the controlling factor and limit financial contributions in elections using money in elections is not equivalent to free speech. You opportunists in Congress behind this legislation you will likely succeed in your Russian oil ban and it won't make a damn bit of difference because countries like India and China will continue to buy lake size quantities of Russian oil!




Wrong. But, most importantly, it WILL cost pootin. And that is good.
 
Seel up every Russian pipeline going into Europe tell Xi we cut him off if he buys oil from Russia and we go back to Trump's energy policy and this war will end by October.....
Does Biden have the balls?...
 
Those members of Congress preparing legislation to ban in America the purchase of Russian oil and not guaranteeing replacing that oil with U.S. produced oil should be ashamed of themselves. In effect what they will be doing is increasing severe financial pain on American families due to increased cost to fill their cars with gasoline, and increased gas and electric bills because carbon fuels move in tandem; when the price of oil goes up so does natural gas and coal. In effect what this legislation would do is make these Washington politicians feel and look good at the expense of ordinary Americans. Any competent legislator could draft legislation dramatically increasing oil and natural gas production in the U.S. but Washington legislators don't want to do it because it would unleash a backlash from the incredibly powerful anti-carbon fuel lobby in America and costs Democrats and moderate Republicans that vote for such legislation their seat in Congress in large numbers. This nation wide embarrassment dysfunction of Washington right now where millions of Ukrainians are experiencing the carnage and horror of World War II and Congress cannot put together and pass a joint import oil ban and an increased domestic oil production bill is just another compelling reason why America needs to change their constitution to fix Washington. America needs to limit Senators to two terms, House Members to five; draw congressional districts by algorithm with compactness of districts being the controlling factor and limit financial contributions in elections using money in elections is not equivalent to free speech. You opportunists in Congress behind this legislation you will likely succeed in your Russian oil ban and it won't make a damn bit of difference because countries like India and China will continue to buy lake size quantities of Russian oil!
Time for a convention of states!
 
Sleepy Joe can fix it with the stroke of a pen. Open Keystone and federal land oil sites. Cut federal fuel taxes. Lots of ways to keep gas prices down AND still not accept Russian oil. Russian oil requires a lot of extra steps to clean it and make it okay to use here. You'd think those environmentalists would be cheering a ban.
I think he's waiting for Whoopi and Joy to tell what he should do.
 
Anyone ever follow Glenn Beck? He did a bunch of shows around the global economy and how it now runs. It's quite like MAD w/ nukes, only on economies. All the economies are linked to each other for many reasons. He indicated take out one and it affects all the others.

Lindsay Graham hinted at this the other night.
 
The sanctions on Russian gas is supposed to cause pain on Americans. Not hurt Russia. We will still buy Russian oil. We will just buy it through Iran and pay more. You had to have heard that Russia, Iran and the US are negotiating for just that arrangement. China will still continue to buy Russian oil and so will Europe, but on the sly.

It is supposed to hurt. The costs are supposed to bloodlet, until you scream for the green new deal.

Democrats have got to GO every last one.
 
Those members of Congress preparing legislation to ban in America the purchase of Russian oil and not guaranteeing replacing that oil with U.S. produced oil should be ashamed of themselves. In effect what they will be doing is increasing severe financial pain on American families due to increased cost to fill their cars with gasoline, and increased gas and electric bills because carbon fuels move in tandem; when the price of oil goes up so does natural gas and coal. In effect what this legislation would do is make these Washington politicians feel and look good at the expense of ordinary Americans. Any competent legislator could draft legislation dramatically increasing oil and natural gas production in the U.S. but Washington legislators don't want to do it because it would unleash a backlash from the incredibly powerful anti-carbon fuel lobby in America and costs Democrats and moderate Republicans that vote for such legislation their seat in Congress in large numbers. This nation wide embarrassment dysfunction of Washington right now where millions of Ukrainians are experiencing the carnage and horror of World War II and Congress cannot put together and pass a joint import oil ban and an increased domestic oil production bill is just another compelling reason why America needs to change their constitution to fix Washington. America needs to limit Senators to two terms, House Members to five; draw congressional districts by algorithm with compactness of districts being the controlling factor and limit financial contributions in elections using money in elections is not equivalent to free speech. You opportunists in Congress behind this legislation you will likely succeed in your Russian oil ban and it won't make a damn bit of difference because countries like India and China will continue to buy lake size quantities of Russian oil!
Yes, we will feel pain, but Russia will feel it much more. Thats why its worth it.
 
Those members of Congress preparing legislation to ban in America the purchase of Russian oil and not guaranteeing replacing that oil with U.S. produced oil should be ashamed of themselves. In effect what they will be doing is increasing severe financial pain on American families due to increased cost to fill their cars with gasoline, and increased gas and electric bills because carbon fuels move in tandem; when the price of oil goes up so does natural gas and coal. In effect what this legislation would do is make these Washington politicians feel and look good at the expense of ordinary Americans. Any competent legislator could draft legislation dramatically increasing oil and natural gas production in the U.S. but Washington legislators don't want to do it because it would unleash a backlash from the incredibly powerful anti-carbon fuel lobby in America and costs Democrats and moderate Republicans that vote for such legislation their seat in Congress in large numbers. This nation wide embarrassment dysfunction of Washington right now where millions of Ukrainians are experiencing the carnage and horror of World War II and Congress cannot put together and pass a joint import oil ban and an increased domestic oil production bill is just another compelling reason why America needs to change their constitution to fix Washington. America needs to limit Senators to two terms, House Members to five; draw congressional districts by algorithm with compactness of districts being the controlling factor and limit financial contributions in elections using money in elections is not equivalent to free speech. You opportunists in Congress behind this legislation you will likely succeed in your Russian oil ban and it won't make a damn bit of difference because countries like India and China will continue to buy lake size quantities of Russian oil!
Banning Russian oil will spread Ukrainian severe pain to Americans? You mean like the pain of having your homes blasted to hell? Like having your kids and their schools shelled? Maybe like watching the family next door machinegunned down while you dive for cover because of a stoppage in the gun they gave you last week because you fkd up for lack of training, and now they are coming for you? Is that the severe pain you are talking about?
 
Banning Russian oil (when most of Russia’s economy is based on oil) will not spread Ukraine’s pain to the US. Ukraine’s pain is war, mass deaths, violent destruction of infrastructure, homes etc. By very stark contrast, the US would likely feel only some economic disruptions.

HOWEVER, the sanction on Russia might persuade either Putin or the other Russian leaders to end the Russian war in Ukraine. I don’t want to sound like a Brandon supporter, but if this sanctions stuff works, I’ll be the first to offer a public congratulations to him; and acknowledge my error in doubting the efficacy of sanctions, sanctions, sanctions.
Russia exports close to 8 million barrels of oil per day. We buy 700k. That leaves 90% of their export in place. I'm all for that if we ramp up domestic production. But since there's no way we're going to ramp up domestic production with this administration, I fear the result would be $8 a gallon gas here, and very little effect on Russia. Biden's only solution to rising gas prices thus far has been to deplete our strategic energy reserves, which were almost empty when he left the White House in 2016, and full when he took over in 2021.
 
Russia exports close to 8 million barrels of oil per day. We buy 700k. That leaves 90% of their export in place. I'm all for that if we ramp up domestic production. But since there's no way we're going to ramp up domestic production with this administration, I fear the result would be $8 a gallon gas here, and very little effect on Russia. Biden's only solution to rising gas prices thus far has been to deplete our strategic energy reserves, which were almost empty when he left the White House in 2016, and full when he took over in 2021.
That’s probably not a realistic outcome. But whatever we can do to fuckup Russian assets is deserving of support — even if it’s something our feckless leader endorses.
 
To the idiots spouting, we can't solve this with more oil: Consider you are in no position to replace the gas fleet of America in the short or medium time frame. Electric is woefully misguided. The only real option is to increase oil production here.
 
The sanctions on Russian gas is supposed to cause pain on Americans. Not hurt Russia. We will still buy Russian oil. We will just buy it through Iran and pay more. You had to have heard that Russia, Iran and the US are negotiating for just that arrangement. China will still continue to buy Russian oil and so will Europe, but on the sly.

It is supposed to hurt. The costs are supposed to bloodlet, until you scream for the green new deal.

Democrats have got to GO every last one.
First, its Russian oil. And it is intended to hurt Russia, not Americans. Americans will be 'hurt' by cutting Ivan's imports, but Biden is sucking off Iran to try and cut oil shortages here. You won't pay anymore for Iran oil than the current global price per barrel....But you will be buying nukes for Iran to take out Israel.

Funny though, US is screwing their allies by not stepping up and supplying their energy needs.
 
First, its Russian oil. And it is intended to hurt Russia, not Americans. Americans will be 'hurt' by cutting Ivan's imports, but Biden is sucking off Iran to try and cut oil shortages here. You won't pay anymore for Iran oil than the current global price per barrel....But you will be buying nukes for Iran to take out Israel.

Funny though, US is screwing their allies by not stepping up and supplying their energy needs.
There are no sanctions on Russian oil. You know that,
 

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