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In simple words, you favor Democracy, right?
Autocracy or Democracy
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Democracy is the tryanny of the mob.
Mac1958
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Yep
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You'd have to define what they all mean in detail. We had "democracy" already under democrats where they issued mask mandates, vaccine mandates, they wouldn't allow their citizens to leave the house unless they carried their vaccine papers, want to take first and second amendment rights away, rounded up those who protest and jailed them just for being there, and weaponized the justice system in order to take out their political opponents.
On the other hand, we've also already had aristocracy already where both parties accept bribes from the rich in order to pass policy and laws. That predates Trump, if that is what you are trying to imply. Even just recently, we had the elites kick a president out of office and install their own democrat nominee without even holding a primary to elect her. And, on the last day of the DNC we saw that democrat nominee standing with a bunch of millionaires and billionaires, all chanting, "We're not going back".
Without you providing detailed definitions of your poll choices, your poll is unanswerable.
Seymour Flops
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If Biden had been re-elected, we would have had autopen-ocracy. Whoever controlled the autopen would have all executive powers.
gipper
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Even though you must know it doesn’t work and usually devolves into rule by elite.
We’re seeing it happen before our eyes today. Open your eyes.
Mac1958
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For some weird reason, they don't want to just admit that the term "democracy" is simply a VERY commonly used catch-all for people being able to vote for their representatives, which includes representative republics.
I don't know why they need to parse the word like that. Maybe they just want to quibble.
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LordBrownTrout
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I would say you're just another ai bot. Are you really this dumb?
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Well, at least I am smarter than you, so that is a plus
It's just to contrast what we have from pure or unlimited democracy. We use democracy as a tool to elect representatives who, in turn, use democracy to make decisions.
Mostly they're reacting to progressives who seemingly want all of society run democratically.
Considering the way that the dems have been massively and increasingly violating the rights of individuals, with their various majorities,
it is a very important and timely distinction to make.
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Use the Constitution as a guideline.
Aristocracy means one man running the show with no possible consequences attached. We have not had that ever
Now, convicted criminals were pardoned by Trump, he is trying to get judges that have ruled against him thrown out and he said this 3 days ago when questioned about upholding his oath of office of upholding the Constitution. He said "I don't know". That is what an Aristocrat would say.
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So you voted for Autocracy and one person calling the shots without accountability, right?
By the way, would you feel the same if Biden became the Autocrat and would not be able to be taken out of office?
After all, when voting for Autocracy, your vote doesn't count. You have to live with whoever is the leader................no matter what!!
norwegen
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Even less desirable would be the masses making decisions. Democracy is as authoritarian as any form of government, but worse because stupid people control it.
The only government I favor is a republican government, which is constitutionally mandated.
I want the option that our Founding Fathers picked, ie a Representative Republic, with strong protections for the rights of individuals and seperations of powers.
It is very telling that you did not include that option in your poll.
Are you really unaware of that as an option? how did that level of ignorance come to be?
You're talking past each other.
When conservatives* hear "democracy", they hear 'the kind of government Democrats want". And they see that as pervasive government, involved in all aspects of society. They don't want that, so they bristle at any suggestion that we're a democracy.
*I'm referring here to traditional conservatives. While they might use some of the same words, even some of the same arguments, maga people are not traditional conservatives.
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Many of those who went after Trump had run campaigns to get themselves elected by saying they would "get Trump". So, we know how things are politically motivated. Hell, most polls showed that the various charges against Trump from several different places were all politically motivated.
And, the Jan 6th committee was also formed to "get Trump", with nothing but anti-Trumpers on the committee and the structure set up so that only one side of the story is investigated and that narrative was the only narrative coming out of the committee and democrats controlled that entire process so that that would be the only narrative coming out of the committee.
But, your responses only prove that your poll was set up with a bias in mind.
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What does that have anything to do with the OP? This is about the future and not the past. This is not about mimicking or totally changing what has happened but about what is to happen.
Same question as above!
It does not matter what I had in my mind when I set up with OP. This OP is not about me or PROVING anyone (including myself) right or wrong.
This is about the kind of a government (Autocracy or Democracy) that we want for the future.
Why can you not answer the question? Autocracy or Democracy
