Who gets the blame for breaking our 250 year old experiment with democracy?

Will this issue lead to the reordering of the federal constitution?

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Somehow, you missed the point that the endeavor R's in southern states are currently engaged in is to draw maps demographically favoring white Repubs. A district in Memphis that has existed in its current form since 1932 is being broken in to pieces for the aforementioned purpose.
You mean the district that is currently represented by a white male Democrat who is about to be replaced by a black female Republican? But that's racism in your mind? Tenn. is overwhelmingly Republican. The only reason that district has remained in Democrat hands is because of racial Gerrymandering. In contrast Virginia is almost a 50/50 State yet Democrats were about to make it a 10/1 Democrat to Republican advantage through blatant Gerrymandering. Same thing in California. You'd already done that in States like Illinois. You were warned that if you kept doing it that the GOP could retaliate in the States that they controlled but you didn't listen. You NEVER listen! Now it's happening and you're SHOCKED!
 
I suppose one could make the argument the conservatives on the SC get the nod for gutting the VRA. The recent ruling effectively nullifying Sec. 2 of the law, having unleashed a rush by southern states to gerrymander districts with minority representation out of existence. But R gerrymandering was already well on its way before the Court decided to once again legislate from the bench.

Supreme Court guts Voting Rights Act, greenlights GOP gerrymanders​

In a 6-3 decision, the U.S. Supreme Court kneecapped the Voting Rights Act (VRA), the landmark civil rights law that restricted racial gerrymandering and racial discrimination in voting for sixty years.

Writing for the majority in Callais v. Louisiana, Justice Samuel Alito wrote that the court was not striking down Section 2 of the VRA, but rather “properly” interpreting it as “impos[ing] liability only when circumstances give rise to a strong inference that intentional discrimination occurred.”

Justice Elena Kagan, in dissent, accused the majority of making changes that “eviscerate the law.”

The ruling effectively invalidates Section 2 of the VRA as it has been understood for four decades without explicitly striking down the statute. It now will require proof of intentional discrimination — something Congress did not write into the law and that’s extremely difficult for plaintiffs to show.


To be sure, both D's and R's have engaged in the ugly practice of gerrymandering throughout our history. Boiled down to its essence, it is and always has been a perversion of a representative democracy. Which is why Dem's tried to pass legislation mandating that independent commissions draw district maps in the future. R's rejected the idea. We're coming to understand why.

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H.R. 1 (the For the People Act) and subsequent legislation like the Redistricting Reform Act of 2025
aim to eliminate partisan gerrymandering by requiring all states to use 15-member independent redistricting commissions (IRCs) to draw congressional maps.

So, it appears the hands down winner in causing an unprecedented number of R controlled states to enact legislation allowing for mid-cycle redistricting (which normally happens every 10 years following the census), and the consequent reaction by Dem controlled states to the aforementioned perversion, is.........well........it goes without saying. Of note, R's have typically used their control of state legislatures in order to permit the gerrymandering while D's have sought the input of the people by passing referendums. The VA Supreme Court having taken away the right of majority rule after the people voted to allow for new maps to be drawn.

trump has expressed concern he will be impeached again if the D's take the House in the fall. Then there's the matter of the House holding hearings and using its constitutional authority of oversight (something the R's have abdicated) that also has to be concerning for Don. Though two years isn't nearly long enough to hold the regime to account for all its abuses. Which explains his motivation for trying to rig the midterms in the R's favor. To be clear, rigging the election on a national scale is exactly what he's trying to do. It's an abomination like no other in our history.

But while he is responsible for trying to put another nail in democracy's coffin, is he to blame for the success to date? Or are the R's in control of state legislatures and governor's mansions really to blame? They could have stood up for the principles on which the country was founded like the seven state reps in Indiana did. The ones targeted by trump for being primaried out of office. Nothing prevented Greg Abbott from telling trump he could not in good conscience do what he was being asked. R legislative leaders could have refused to participate in an anti-democratic scheme they knew to be wrong. Voters in IN could have shown their support for the reps who so obviously did the right thing.

The point being trump is powerless without his enablers. He only gets to lead the country down this path if enough people follow. The existential question for the times is how to get them to stop following.
The US has never really had democracy, as far as I can tell.

People vote, but that has never really decided who gets into power.
 
Maine has two congressional districts

How much redrawing can be done?….

You people don’t seem to grasp how representation based on population works….
Could redraw it so there's only one constituency in the whole country. It's called proportional representation.
 
You mean the district that is currently represented by a white male Democrat who is about to be replaced by a black female Republican? But that's racism in your mind? Tenn. is overwhelmingly Republican. The only reason that district has remained in Democrat hands is because of racial Gerrymandering. In contrast Virginia is almost a 50/50 State yet Democrats were about to make it a 10/1 Democrat to Republican advantage through blatant Gerrymandering. Same thing in California. You'd already done that in States like Illinois. You were warned that if you kept doing it that the GOP could retaliate in the States that they controlled but you didn't listen. You NEVER listen! Now it's happening and you're SHOCKED!

That is what they always do. They are actively refusing to listen OR learn.
 
over half the state is red how hard can it be?
The largely uninhabited half? How many people live there?

You people see large red areas of sparsely populated counties and just can’t wrap your head around the fact that the majority of the population lives clustered in a small cluster of blue counties…..
 
The largely uninhabited half? How many people live there?

You people see large red areas of sparsely populated counties and just can’t wrap your head around the fact that the majority of the population lives clustered in a small cluster of blue counties…..
Is that why they have a republican senator?
 
Is that why they have a republican senator?

BOO-YAH.

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