I.knew when trump dismantled CISA that he was launching a huge misinformation campaign around the ellections and possibly changing results so he and the republicans can stay in power. CISA also dealt with protecting US from cyber attacks from China and Russia so he left US more open to those attacks than ever.. That's just how much he cares about the average Joe American. Not at all !
We've reached level four. That isn't a good thing.
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So far the number of deportees is in the 50k range. They're on track for 100k before the end of the year. That's still a drop in the bucket.
Harry Dresden
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how is that defending trump?....
Obama/biden did all those things.Trump’s Stifling of Dissent Reaches a New Level
The crackdown on dissent and speech in Minnesota this winter follows a pattern that is common in countries that slide from democracy to autocracy: A leader enacts a legally dubious policy. Citizens protest that policy. The government responds with intimidation and force. When people are hurt, the government blames them and lies about what happened.
The New York Times editorial board published an index in October tracking 12 categories of democratic erosion, based on historical patterns and interviews with experts. Our index places the United States on a scale of 0 to 10 for each category. Zero represents the United States before President Trump began his second term — not perfect, surely, but one of the world’s healthiest democracies. Ten represents the condition in a true autocracy, such as China, Iran or Russia.
Based on recent events, we are moving our assessment of one of the categories — stifling speech and dissent — up one notch, to level four:
The wide-ranging abuses in Minnesota are the main reason for the change. The Trump administration is conducting a military-style operation in an American city under dubious pretenses.
Opinion | Trump’s Stifling of Dissent Reaches a New Level
Measuring America’s slide toward democratic erosion.www.nytimes.com
The sister piece to this one with a link in the second paragraph is.............
Donald Trump has wielded power as no previous president has, often in open defiance of the law. His actions have raised a chilling question.
ARE WE LOSING OUR DEMOCRACY?
Countries that slide from democracy toward autocracy tend to follow similar patterns. To measure what is happening in the United States, the Times editorial board has compiled a list of 12 markers of democratic erosion, with help from scholars who have studied this phenomenon. The sobering reality is that the United States has regressed, to different degrees, on all 12.
Our country is still not close to being a true autocracy, in the mold of Russia or China. But once countries begin taking steps away from democracy, the march often continues. We offer these 12 markers as a warning of how much Americans have already lost and how much more we still could lose.
Opinion | Are We Losing Our Democracy?
Donald Trump has wielded power as no previous president has.
The other categories are as follows.
1. Persecuting political enemies. 5
2. Bypassing the legislature. 4
3. Defying the courts. 3 (That should be higher after the 100 times ICE defied court orders in MN)
4. Declaring false emergencies. 5
5. Using the military at home. 3
6. Vilifying marginalized groups. 6
7. Controlling information. 2
8. Trying to take over universities. 2
9. Creating a cult of personality. 6
10. Using power for personal profit. 7
Authoritarians often turn the government into a machine for enriching themselves, their families and their allies. Mr. Trump glories in his administration’s culture of corruption.
He openly uses the presidency as an opportunity to pad his bottom line, in ways that range from the comically petty (like charging the Secret Service up to $1,200 per night for rooms at his hotels) to the shamelessly greedy (like the $40 million that Amazon paid for the rights to a Melania Trump documentary or his recent demand that the government pay him $230 million because he was investigated for breaking the law). He solicits favors from foreign governments, including an airplane from Qatar. His children also profit from their father’s position, through real-estate deals, crypto, a private club in Washington and more. And he rewards those who enrich them, recently pardoning the head of a cryptocurrency firm who worked with the Trump family.
In the first six months of this year, the Trump Organization’s income soared to $864 million, up from just $51 million a year earlier, according to a recent Reuters analysis. It’s worth noting that recent Supreme Court decisions have made corruption harder to police.
11. Manipulating the law to stay in power. 2 (In other words, lawfare)
We can quibble about where the levels are set but not the facts underlying the concern. As difficult as it is, given our long history as a democratic republic, to grasp the full extent of the direction trump is taking us the evidence is indisputable. Though trump fans will no doubt employ all the tools of denial, false comparisons, and lies in an effort to credibly dispute it. They will fail.
EvilCat Breath
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We are in a state of Civil War. Trump isn't nearly doing as much as he needs to do.
He's the whole reason we have extremists like you believing shit like that.
So at that rate it will take 110 years to export them all. And you don't want to know the cost to US . Losses will be in the trillions. We can't afford Trump's pipe dream. And we'll be worse off all around if he could get it done. Time for plan C.
SmokeALib
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Better head to Venezuela dumbass.Trump’s Stifling of Dissent Reaches a New Level
The crackdown on dissent and speech in Minnesota this winter follows a pattern that is common in countries that slide from democracy to autocracy: A leader enacts a legally dubious policy. Citizens protest that policy. The government responds with intimidation and force. When people are hurt, the government blames them and lies about what happened.
The New York Times editorial board published an index in October tracking 12 categories of democratic erosion, based on historical patterns and interviews with experts. Our index places the United States on a scale of 0 to 10 for each category. Zero represents the United States before President Trump began his second term — not perfect, surely, but one of the world’s healthiest democracies. Ten represents the condition in a true autocracy, such as China, Iran or Russia.
Based on recent events, we are moving our assessment of one of the categories — stifling speech and dissent — up one notch, to level four:
The wide-ranging abuses in Minnesota are the main reason for the change. The Trump administration is conducting a military-style operation in an American city under dubious pretenses.
Opinion | Trump’s Stifling of Dissent Reaches a New Level
Measuring America’s slide toward democratic erosion.
The sister piece to this one with a link in the second paragraph is.............
Donald Trump has wielded power as no previous president has, often in open defiance of the law. His actions have raised a chilling question.
ARE WE LOSING OUR DEMOCRACY?
Countries that slide from democracy toward autocracy tend to follow similar patterns. To measure what is happening in the United States, the Times editorial board has compiled a list of 12 markers of democratic erosion, with help from scholars who have studied this phenomenon. The sobering reality is that the United States has regressed, to different degrees, on all 12.
Our country is still not close to being a true autocracy, in the mold of Russia or China. But once countries begin taking steps away from democracy, the march often continues. We offer these 12 markers as a warning of how much Americans have already lost and how much more we still could lose.
Opinion | Are We Losing Our Democracy?
Donald Trump has wielded power as no previous president has.
The other categories are as follows.
1. Persecuting political enemies. 5
2. Bypassing the legislature. 4
3. Defying the courts. 3 (That should be higher after the 100 times ICE defied court orders in MN)
4. Declaring false emergencies. 5
5. Using the military at home. 3
6. Vilifying marginalized groups. 6
7. Controlling information. 2
8. Trying to take over universities. 2
9. Creating a cult of personality. 6
10. Using power for personal profit. 7
Authoritarians often turn the government into a machine for enriching themselves, their families and their allies. Mr. Trump glories in his administration’s culture of corruption.
He openly uses the presidency as an opportunity to pad his bottom line, in ways that range from the comically petty (like charging the Secret Service up to $1,200 per night for rooms at his hotels) to the shamelessly greedy (like the $40 million that Amazon paid for the rights to a Melania Trump documentary or his recent demand that the government pay him $230 million because he was investigated for breaking the law). He solicits favors from foreign governments, including an airplane from Qatar. His children also profit from their father’s position, through real-estate deals, crypto, a private club in Washington and more. And he rewards those who enrich them, recently pardoning the head of a cryptocurrency firm who worked with the Trump family.
In the first six months of this year, the Trump Organization’s income soared to $864 million, up from just $51 million a year earlier, according to a recent Reuters analysis. It’s worth noting that recent Supreme Court decisions have made corruption harder to police.
11. Manipulating the law to stay in power. 2 (In other words, lawfare)
We can quibble about where the levels are set but not the facts underlying the concern. As difficult as it is, given our long history as a democratic republic, to grasp the full extent of the direction trump is taking us the evidence is indisputable. Though trump fans will no doubt employ all the tools of denial, false comparisons, and lies in an effort to credibly dispute it. They will fail.
trump has s an epic fail. You might want to consider moving.
EvilCat Breath
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There is no other explanation for the level of violence that democrats embrace.
The only people I.hear talking about hatred and civil war are you far-right extremists. People on the left just want to live their own lives free from your attempts to dominate everyone.
SmokeALib
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Hell no. Too much entertainment to be had watching all you worthless leftist traitors squirm! Fun for the whole family.
You really are screwed up. trump proved again and again he is the traitor.
Lesh
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People like you are a cancer on the nation
Nope. People like you are.
EvilCat Breath
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Stop complaining. Do something.
EvilCat Breath
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Yes they want to live their own lives, looting, beating and slitting the throats of those they haven't thrown onto rail road tracks.
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Trump’s Stifling of Dissent Reaches a New Level
The crackdown on dissent and speech in Minnesota this winter follows a pattern that is common in countries that slide from democracy to autocracy: A leader enacts a legally dubious policy. Citizens protest that policy. The government responds with intimidation and force. When people are hurt, the government blames them and lies about what happened.
The New York Times editorial board published an index in October tracking 12 categories of democratic erosion, based on historical patterns and interviews with experts. Our index places the United States on a scale of 0 to 10 for each category. Zero represents the United States before President Trump began his second term — not perfect, surely, but one of the world’s healthiest democracies. Ten represents the condition in a true autocracy, such as China, Iran or Russia.
Based on recent events, we are moving our assessment of one of the categories — stifling speech and dissent — up one notch, to level four:
The wide-ranging abuses in Minnesota are the main reason for the change. The Trump administration is conducting a military-style operation in an American city under dubious pretenses.
Opinion | Trump’s Stifling of Dissent Reaches a New Level
Measuring America’s slide toward democratic erosion.
The sister piece to this one with a link in the second paragraph is.............
Donald Trump has wielded power as no previous president has, often in open defiance of the law. His actions have raised a chilling question.
ARE WE LOSING OUR DEMOCRACY?
Countries that slide from democracy toward autocracy tend to follow similar patterns. To measure what is happening in the United States, the Times editorial board has compiled a list of 12 markers of democratic erosion, with help from scholars who have studied this phenomenon. The sobering reality is that the United States has regressed, to different degrees, on all 12.
Our country is still not close to being a true autocracy, in the mold of Russia or China. But once countries begin taking steps away from democracy, the march often continues. We offer these 12 markers as a warning of how much Americans have already lost and how much more we still could lose.
Opinion | Are We Losing Our Democracy?
Donald Trump has wielded power as no previous president has.
The other categories are as follows.
1. Persecuting political enemies. 5
2. Bypassing the legislature. 4
3. Defying the courts. 3 (That should be higher after the 100 times ICE defied court orders in MN)
4. Declaring false emergencies. 5
5. Using the military at home. 3
6. Vilifying marginalized groups. 6
7. Controlling information. 2
8. Trying to take over universities. 2
9. Creating a cult of personality. 6
10. Using power for personal profit. 7
Authoritarians often turn the government into a machine for enriching themselves, their families and their allies. Mr. Trump glories in his administration’s culture of corruption.
He openly uses the presidency as an opportunity to pad his bottom line, in ways that range from the comically petty (like charging the Secret Service up to $1,200 per night for rooms at his hotels) to the shamelessly greedy (like the $40 million that Amazon paid for the rights to a Melania Trump documentary or his recent demand that the government pay him $230 million because he was investigated for breaking the law). He solicits favors from foreign governments, including an airplane from Qatar. His children also profit from their father’s position, through real-estate deals, crypto, a private club in Washington and more. And he rewards those who enrich them, recently pardoning the head of a cryptocurrency firm who worked with the Trump family.
In the first six months of this year, the Trump Organization’s income soared to $864 million, up from just $51 million a year earlier, according to a recent Reuters analysis. It’s worth noting that recent Supreme Court decisions have made corruption harder to police.
11. Manipulating the law to stay in power. 2 (In other words, lawfare)
We can quibble about where the levels are set but not the facts underlying the concern. As difficult as it is, given our long history as a democratic republic, to grasp the full extent of the direction trump is taking us the evidence is indisputable. Though trump fans will no doubt employ all the tools of denial, false comparisons, and lies in an effort to credibly dispute it. They will fail.
Flee !!! Flee while you still can!!!! North Korea and Somalia need your vast worldly wisdom n stuff, and they will surely give you a BIG IMPORTANT GOVERNMENT JOB handling global crises!!!!
Don't deny the world the benefits of your vast skillz!!!! Get out from under the horrors of the US and shine!!!
Yes I'm such a threat.Worked for 65 years , 50 years of which was as a nurse. Helped deliver over 500 babies during my stint in the Air Force during the Vietnam War. Remember the one trump didn't serve in with a lame excuse. I have planted a small forest of trees in my lifetime in my spare time. Raised more produce in a large garden than hundreds , maybe even thousands of other people ever did. And shared all that with family , neighbors and friends. Plus helping out and donating to the community food bank and the community recycling center. Yes , I am a terrible person in your eyes. Maybe, just maybe you are making a terrible mistake judging me instead of judging trump who threatens each and every one of US.
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They all make mistakes, Our PROBLEM IS not admitting/ or holding them responsible.
If WE want Honest (as possible) government, We need to demand it, instead of political party preference
OVER WORKING TOGETHER towards government in all Americans best interest.
If WE want Honest (as possible) government, We need to demand it, instead of political party preference
OVER WORKING TOGETHER towards government in all Americans best interest.
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