Zone1 Do more women make it into the highest levels of Heaven than men?

[DennisPTate]

No wonder that pastor Rick Joyner is hated by so many deeply religious people?

He was shown that more WOMEN make it into the highest levels of heaven than any other group of people. This will be an idea that will profoundly offend a high percentage of Theologians who are men and who are biased against women even being able to teach?

[Pastor Rick Joyner, The Final Quest] :

"I remembered what a friend had once said, "When an omniscient God asks you a question, it is not because He is seeking information." I looked at the thrones. I looked at those who were now seated. I could recognize some of the great heroes of the faith, but most of those seated I knew had not even been well known on earth. Many I knew had been missionaries who had expended their lives in obscurity. They had never cared to be remembered on earth, but only to Him. I was a bit surprised to see some who had been wealthy, or rulers who had been faithful with what they had been given. However, it seemed that faithful, praying women and mothers occupied more thrones than any other single group.

There was no way that I could answer "yes" to the Lord's question if I considered myself worthy to sit here. I was not worthy to sit in the company of any who were there. I knew I had been given the opportunity to run for the greatest prize in heaven or earth, and I had failed. I was desperate, but there was still one hope. Even though most of my life had been a failure, I knew that I was here before I had finished my life on earth. When I confessed that I was not worthy, He asked:

"But do you want this seat?"

"I do with all of my heart," I responded.

The Lord then looked at the galleries and said, "Those empty seats could have been filled in any generation. I gave the invitation to sit here to everyone who has called upon My name. They are still available. Now the last battle has come, and many who are last shall be first. These seats will be filled before the battle is over. Those who will sit here you will know by two things: they will wear the mantle of humility, and they will have My likeness. You now have the mantle. If you can keep it and do not lose it in the battle, when you return you will also have My likeness. Then you will be worthy to sit with these, because I will have made you worthy. All authority and power has been given to Me, and I alone can wield it. You will prevail, and you will be trusted with My authority only when you have come to fully abide in Me. Now turn and look at My household."

I turned and looked back in the direction I had come from. From before His throne I could see the entire room. The spectacle was beyond any earthly comparison for its glory. Millions filled the ranks. Each individual in the lowest rank was more awesome than an army, and I knew had more power. It was far beyond my capacity to absorb such a panorama of glory. Even so, I could see the only a very small portion of the great room was occupied.

I then looked back at the Lord and was astonished to see tears in His eyes. He had wiped the tears away from every eye here, but His own. As a tear ran down His cheek he caught it in His hand. He then offered it to me.

"This is My cup. Will you drink it with Me?"

There was no way that I could refuse Him. As the Lord continued to look at Me I began to feel His great love. Even as foul as I was He still loved me. As undeserving as I was He wanted me to be close to Him. Then He said:

"I love all of these with a love that you cannot now understand. I also love all who are supposed to be here but did not come. I have left the ninety nine to go after the one who was lost. My shepherds would not leave the one to go after the ninety nine who are still lost. I came to save the lost. Will you share My heart to go to save the lost? Will you help to fill this room? Will you help to fill these thrones, and every other seat in this hall? Will you take up this quest to bring joy to heaven, to Me and to My Father? This judgment is for My own household, and My own house is not full. The last battle will not be over until My house is full. Only then will it be time for us to redeem the earth, and remove the evil from My creation. If you drink My cup you will love the lost the way that I loved them."

He then took a cup so plain that I was surprised that it even existed in a room of such glory, and He placed His tear in it. He then gave it to me. I have never tasted anything so bitter. I knew that I could in no way drink it all, or even much of it, but I was determined to drink as much as I could. The Lord patiently waited until I finally erupted into such crying that I felt like veritable rivers of tears were flowing from me. I was crying for the lost, but even more I was crying for the Lord.

I looked to Him in desperation as I could not take any more of this great pain. Then His peace began to fill me and mix with His love that I was feeling. Never had I felt anything so wonderful. This was the living water that I knew could spring up for eternity. Then I felt as if the waters flowing within me caught on fire. I began to feel that this fire would consume me if I could not begin declaring the majesty of His glory. I had never felt such an urge to preach, to worship Him, and to breathe every breath that I was given for the sake of His gospel.

"Lord!" I shouted out, forgetting everyone but Him. "I now know that this throne of judgment is also the throne of grace, and I ask You now for the grace to serve You. Above all things I ask You for grace! I ask You for the grace to finish my course. I ask You for the grace to love You like this so that I can be delivered from the delusions and self-centeredness that so pervert my life. I call upon You for salvation from myself and the evil of my own heart, and for this love that I now feel to flow continually in my heart. I ask You to give me Your heart, Your love. I ask You for the grace of the Holy Spirit to convict me of my sin. I ask You for the grace of the Holy Spirit to testify of You, as You really are. I ask for the grace to testify of all that You have prepared for those who come to You. I ask for the grace to be upon me to preach the reality of this judgment. I ask for the grace to share with those who are called to occupy these empty thrones, to give them words of life that will keep them on the path of life, that will impart to them the faith to do what they have been called to do. Lord, I beg You for this grace."

The Lord then stood up. Then all of those who were seated upon the thrones for as far as I could see also stood up. His eyes burned with a fire I had not seen before.

"You have called upon Me for grace. This request I never deny. You shall return, and the Holy Spirit shall be with you. Here you have tasted of both My kindness and My severity. You must remember both if you are to stay on the path of life. The true love of God includes the judgment of God. You must know both my kindness and severity or you will fall to deception. This is the grace that you have been given here, to know both. The conversations you had with your brethren here were My grace. Remember them."

He then pointed His sword toward my heart, then my mouth, then my hands.

When He did this fire came from His sword and burned me with a great pain. "This too is grace," He said. "You are but one of many who have been prepared for this hour. Preach and write about all that you have seen here. What I have said to you say to My brethren. Go and call My captains to the last battle. Go and defend the poor and the oppressed, the widows and the orphans. This is the commission of My captains, and it is where you will find them. My children are worth more to Me than the stars in the heavens. Feed My lambs. Watch over My little ones. Give the word of God to them that they may live. Go to the battle. Go and do not retreat. Go quickly for I will come quickly. Obey Me and hasten the day of My coming."

A company of angels then came and escorted me away from the throne. The leader walked beside me and began to speak.

"Now that He has stood He will not sit again until the last battle is over. He has been seated until the time when His enemies are to be put under His feet. The time has now come. The legions of angels that have been standing ready since the night of passion have now been released upon the earth. The hordes of hell have also been released. This is the time that all of creation has been waiting for. The great mystery of God will soon be finished. We will now fight until the end. We will fight with you and your brethren."

I awoke."

[Pastor Rick Joyner, The Final Quest, [about two thirds of the way down this page]

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[SaxonJackson]

Food for thought.

God, Himself, is referred to in the masculine.
Jesus Christ was male.
The vast majority of the Prophets were male.
All of the Apostles were men.
Church overseers (bishops) were to be husbands.
The only two individuals, Enoch & Elijah, who were taken up into heaven without experiencing death were men.

 

[DennisPTate]

Food for thought.

God, Himself, is referred to in the masculine.
Jesus Christ was male.
The vast majority of the Prophets were male.
All of the Apostles were men.
Church overseers (bishops) were to be husbands.
The only two individuals, Enoch & Elijah, who were taken up into heaven without experiencing death were men.

You are absolutely correct....
everything that you wrote is true.....
but HUMILITY is a necessary characteristic for somebody to make it into heaven and have fellowship with our Creator.

Because women give birth to children they tend to realize that only Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and The Holy Spirit and the Heavenly Father can assist them to protect those children......

and those grandchildren.....
so women tend to come to the understanding that only prayer can save those children that they care so deeply about.

Some politically incorrect information is out there that gives evidence that women have thirty to thirty three percent more connecting fibres between the two hemispheres of the brain. The name for that brain part is the "Corpus Callosum", [pardon my spelling]. There used to be a theory that a surge of testosterone, while baby boys are in the womb burns out part of the corpus callosum so that men tend to be dominated by one hemisphere of the brain at the time.... but women are getting information from both hemispheres which leads to a quite different thought pattern.

 

[Hafar1014]

There is one afterlife and we all go and its not religious.

 

[DennisPTate]

There is one afterlife and we all go and its not religious.

Near death experiencers are reporting that there is really zero religious divisions in heaven. All of us who have the HUMILITY needed to be allowed into "paradise" or "heaven" are told the truth within seconds of getting there and thus the religious divisions that exist on this earth, [that to at least some degree are kind of like a TEST], are no longer an issue in heaven?!

You are absolutely correct that heaven or paradise is not "religious" like this world is.

[Near death experiencer and former Atheist Howard Storm] :

"I asked how God could let the Holocaust of World War II happen. We were transported to a railway station as a long train of freight cars was being unloaded of its human cargo. The guards were screaming and beating the people into submission. The people were Jewish men, women, and children. Exhausted from hunger and thirst, they were totally disoriented from the ordeal of being rounded up and sent on a long journey to an unknown destination. They believed that they were going to work camps, and that their submission to the brutality of the guards was the only way to survive.

We went to the area where the selection process was taking place and heard the guards talking about "the Angel Maker." We went to the place the guards were referring to as "the Angel Maker," which was a series of ovens. I saw piles of naked corpses being loaded into the ovens, and I began to cry. Jesus said to me, "These are the people God loves." Then he said, "Look up." Rising out of the smoke of the chimneys, I saw hundreds of people being met by thousands of angels taking them up into the sky. There was great joy in the faces of the people, and there appeared to be no trace of a memory of the horrendous suffering they had just endured. How ironic that the guards sarcastically called the ovens "the Angel Maker."

I asked how God could allow this to happen. They told me that this was not God's will. This was an abomination to God. God wants this never to happen again. This was the sacrifice of an innocent people to whom God had given the law to be an example, a light, to the rest of the world. This Holocaust was breaking God's heart. The anguish that Jesus was suffering at the slaughter of his people was too much for me to bear and I begged that we leave this place. I will never forget this: his anguish at this horror and what it represents. This was one of the low points in human history."

I asked, Why does God let things like this happen? They told me that God was very unhappy with the course of human history and was going to intervene to change the world. God had watched us sink to depths of depravity and cruelty at the very time that he was giving us the instruments to make the world a godlier world. God had intervened in the world many times before, but this time God was going to change the course of human events." (Howard Storm, My Descent Into Death, page 42,43)

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[SaxonJackson]

You are absolutely correct....
everything that you wrote is true.....
but HUMILITY is a necessary characteristic for somebody to make it into heaven and have fellowship with our Creator.

Because women give birth to children they tend to realize that only Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and The Holy Spirit and the Heavenly Father can assist them to protect those children......

and those grandchildren.....
so women tend to come to the understanding that only prayer can save those children that they care so deeply about.

Some politically incorrect information is out there that gives evidence that women have thirty to thirty three percent more connecting fibres between the two hemispheres of the brain. The name for that brain part is the "Corpus Callosum", [pardon my spelling]. There used to be a theory that a surge of testosterone, while baby boys are in the womb burns out part of the corpus callosum so that men tend to be dominated by one hemisphere of the brain at the time.... but women are getting information from both hemispheres which leads to a quite different thought pattern.

(Side note: I forgot to mention in my earlier post that all the angels are referred to in the masculine as well).

I don't personally believe that gender really enters into the picture as to whom will enter into God's glorious Kingdom.

Faith, repentance, and being born again into the Spirit are all important. Reflecting Christ in your daily life. All good things.

But I've personally known a number of women (and men) who are haughty, arrogant, unrepentive, nasty, evil, and anti-Christ. Millions of women abort their unborn. Some are renowned for killing their children after their kids were born. The list goes on.

The bottom line is that God purposely made men masculine and women feminine. We're all called to repent and turn to Christ but as the parable of the seed sower reveals, most will not. On the last day, in the twinkling of an eye, God's faithful will be given a "new body." I see no indication (biblically speaking) that those new bodies will indicate gender.

Matthew 22:30, "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven."

 

[SaxonJackson]

Near death experiencers are reporting that there is really zero religious divisions in heaven. All of us who have the HUMILITY needed to be allowed into "paradise" or "heaven" are told the truth within seconds of getting there and thus the religious divisions that exist on this earth, [that to at least some degree are kind of like a TEST], are no longer an issue in heaven?!

You are absolutely correct that heaven or paradise is not "religious" like this world is.

Incorrect. Jesus Christ is King. So the Kingdom of God IS Christian to the very extreme.

There will be no division of religions because only one religion -- the one that accepts Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and God in the flesh -- will be permitted. All who reject Jesus Christ will be condemned.

John 3:18, "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

^^ Christ's very own words. ^^

 

[DennisPTate]

Incorrect. Jesus Christ is King. So the Kingdom of God IS Christian to the very extreme.

There will be no division of religions because only one religion -- the one that accepts Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and God in the flesh -- will be permitted. All who reject Jesus Christ will be condemned.

John 3:18, "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

^^ Christ's very own words. ^^

But within seconds of fully going on into heaven Jews are shown that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus was also "Moshiach ben David, and Messiah the Passover Lamb." Once that issue is clarified then Jews are able to discern between some of the "Wrap Up Smear" information that they had been taught, in comparison to the full and absolute TRUTH.

Jews who make it into the paradise levels of Sheol go through something like an Acts chapter twenty six type of experience, [that can take only seconds].

1Then Agrippa said to Paul, “You are permitted to speak for yourself.”
So Paul stretched out his hand and answered for himself: 2“I think myself happy, King Agrippa, because today I shall answer for myself before you concerning all the things of which I am accused by the Jews, 3especially because you are expert in all customs and questions which have to do with the Jews. Therefore I beg you to hear me patiently.
4“My manner of life from my youth, which was spent from the beginning among my own nation at Jerusalem, all the Jews know. 5They knew me from the first, if they were willing to testify, that according to the strictest sect of our religion I lived a Pharisee. 6And now I stand and am judged for the hope of the promise made by God to our fathers. 7To this promise our twelve tribes, earnestly serving God night and day, hope to attain. For this hope’s sake, King Agrippa, I am accused by the Jews. 8Why should it be thought incredible by you that God raises the dead?
9“Indeed, I myself thought I must do many things contrary to the name of Jesus of Nazareth. 10This I also did in Jerusalem, and many of the saints I shut up in prison, having received authority from the chief priests; and when they were put to death, I cast my vote against them. 11And I punished them often in every synagogue and compelled them to blaspheme; and being exceedingly enraged against them, I persecuted them even to foreign cities.
Paul Recounts His Conversion
12“While thus occupied, as I journeyed to Damascus with authority and commission from the chief priests, 13at midday, O king, along the road I saw a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, shining around me and those who journeyed with me. 14And when we all had fallen to the ground, I heard a voice speaking to me and saying in the Hebrew language, ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.’ 15So I said, ‘Who are You, Lord?’ And He said, ‘I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. 16But rise and stand on your feet; for I have appeared to you for this purpose, to make you a minister and a witness both of the things which you have seen and of the things which I will yet reveal to you. 17I will deliver you from the Jewish people, as well as from the Gentiles, to whom I now send you, 18to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me.’
Paul’s Post-Conversion Life
19“Therefore, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision, 20but declared first to those in Damascus and in Jerusalem, and throughout all the region of Judea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance. 21For these reasons the Jews seized me in the temple and tried to kill me. 22Therefore, having obtained help from God, to this day I stand, witnessing both to small and great, saying no other things than those which the prophets and Moses said would come— 23that the Christ would suffer, that He would be the first to rise from the dead, and would proclaim light to the Jewish people and to the Gentiles.”
Agrippa Parries Paul’s Challenge
24Now as he thus made his defense, Festus said with a loud voice, “Paul, you are beside yourself! Much learning is driving you mad!”
25But he said, “I am not mad, most noble Festus, but speak the words of truth and reason. 26For the king, before whom I also speak freely, knows these things; for I am convinced that none of these things escapes his attention, since this thing was not done in a corner. 27King Agrippa, do you believe the prophets? I know that you do believe.”
28Then Agrippa said to Paul, “You almost persuade me to become a Christian.”
29And Paul said, “I would to God that not only you, but also all who hear me today, might become both almost and altogether such as I am, except for these chains.”
30When he had said these things, the king stood up, as well as the governor and Bernice and those who sat with them; 31and when they had gone aside, they talked among themselves, saying, “This man is doing nothing deserving of death or chains.”
32Then Agrippa said to Festus, “This man might have been set free if he had not appealed to Caesar.”
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[SaxonJackson]

But within seconds of fully going on into heaven Jews are shown that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus was also "Moshiach ben David, and Messiah the Passover Lamb." Once that issue is clarified then Jews are able to discern between some of the "Wrap Up Smear" information that they had been taught, in comparison to the full and absolute TRUTH.

Jews who make it into the paradise levels of Sheol go through something like an Acts chapter twenty six type of experience, [that can take only seconds].

Bible verses or it didn't (or won't) happen! Pumping personal opinions into God's Word is a very, very, very dangerous thing for you to do.

 

[DennisPTate]

(Side note: I forgot to mention in my earlier post that all the angels are referred to in the masculine as well).

I don't personally believe that gender really enters into the picture as to whom will enter into God's glorious Kingdom.

Faith, repentance, and being born again into the Spirit are all important. Reflecting Christ in your daily life. All good things.

But I've personally known a number of women (and men) who are haughty, arrogant, unrepentive, nasty, evil, and anti-Christ. Millions of women abort their unborn. Some are renowned for killing their children after their kids were born. The list goes on.

The bottom line is that God purposely made men masculine and women feminine. We're all called to repent and turn to Christ but as the parable of the seed sower reveals, most will not. On the last day, in the twinkling of an eye, God's faithful will be given a "new body." I see no indication (biblically speaking) that those new bodies will indicate gender.

Matthew 22:30, "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven."

Near death experiencer Ms. Ariela Solsol Periera was Roman Catholic living in New York when she had her near death experience. Jesus met her and told her that she was actually Jewish and that she should emigrate to Israel. She obeyed.

She was also introduced to more than one baby in heaven who she had aborted in her past. Ms. Ariela Solsol has now gone on into the afterlife but her book about her NDE is brilliant and her children and friends who live in Israel have a special ability to become like diplomats to the USA and other nations.

[Near death experiencer Ms. Ariela Solsol] :

An account of an almost epic Judeo-Christian revelation. A face to face encounter with the King of Kings and the God of Israel with a profound message of extreme relevance to everyone alive today.

Our temporary lives will determine our eternal destinies. Our spiritual future will unfold in either one, of two extremely different, and opposing, kingdoms. We have the power to decide which of these two opposing levels of existence will be our 'forever' home.

In this unique, and encouraging, ecumenical account, we see that life is much more than chaotic randomness. There is an order and beauty in creation which reflects the awesome love of God for all of humanity. His forgiveness is a gift that is free for the taking. His mercy and compassion, for us, knows no bounds!

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CHAPTER TEN: LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION

Jesus was at my side as we walked together. He was taking me to a place that I could
sense was of great importance to Him. His tender love, compassion, and forgiveness
enveloped my spirit completely. He was speaking words of wisdom to my spirit as we
walked together on this journey through the firmament. The totally encompassing
unconditional love I felt at Jesus' side can only compare slightly to what we feel when we
spend quality time with our father, our husband, and our best friend, multiplied a
thousand times! I didn't know where we were going, but I knew that the place where He
was leading me to was very, very important to His Sacred Heart of love.

Suddenly we stopped and I could see the incredible beauty of the place we had just
arrived at. It was like a picture postcard. The scenery was extremely beautiful and perfect
to behold. The grass was greener than any grass on earth, and the flowers were of
incredible hues and shades which I had never seen on earth. There were swings, benches,
and many children playing everywhere. Then I also noticed that there were only children
in this beautiful garden. These children were always in the presence of Jesus, which was
reflected in the joy emanating from their little faces. I understood that this was the place
where aborted and miscarried babies go to.

"For you formed my inward parts;
you knitted me together in my mother’s womb.
I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.
Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well.
My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret,
intricately woven in the depths of the earth.
Your eyes saw my unformed substance;
in your book were written, every one of them,
the days that were formed for me,
when as yet there was none of them."( Psalm 139: 13-16)

"Life begins at conception. Once life is conceived, it is given an eternal soul. This eternal soul is just that... eternal. Under normal circumstances living out one's life on earth will determine the eternal destiny of our souls. It must either live forever in heaven with God in His kingdom or forever in hell with Satan in his kingdom. The children I wasnow observing before me were never given that chance. They left this world before they could ever make a choice.

"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations."( Jeremiah 1: 5)

These little children were now living in an eternal paradise, filled with gardens and bubbling brooks. Here they would be totally immersed in the joy and the presence of the Lord, forever!

To be in His presence... far surpasses anything we can attain on this earth! There was only one small detail lacking in this incredible place of joy and wonder. They were like little angels, who had come here, but not out of their own free will. They had never lived long enough, to exercise their God-given gift of free-will. They were as the angels, who also do not have free will. The angels do the will of the Father at all times. We, as human beings, are given free wills to exercise as we like. We make choices as to how we will live out our lives while here on earth. We are allowed to make choices each moment of our lives on earth." (Ariela Solsol)

"The sum of all life's choices will ultimately lead us to the realm of the Father or to the
realm of darkness forever. By the trials and tribulations that we endure here on earth, we
win eternal crowns for ourselves that will only become evident to us once we are there to
receive them. Yet these precious little children had never been given that chance. They
were never allowed to come to earth and win crowns for themselves the way that we are.
These children were snatched from their mother's wombs before they were ever given
this chance. This beautiful paradise contained all the souls of the aborted, still-born, or
children who died without ever knowing the difference between good and evil.

In this part of the Lord's revelation to me, there was a deep message of forgiveness.
Jesus allowed me to see my own little children who were in this marvelous place. They
were so happy to see me and I was crying tears of joy to be reunited with them again! I
knew that there would be a huge empty space in my life because of their absence. They
would have enriched and blessed my life if they had lived. I was the great loser. Abortion
is a sin against the child, but every bit as much a sin against the mother, also. We have no
way of knowing how this unborn child could have influenced our life, had it been
allowed to live." (Ariela Solsol Pereira, Divine Truths Revealed)

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[DennisPTate]

Bible verses or it didn't (or won't) happen! Pumping personal opinions into God's Word is a very, very, very dangerous thing for you to do.

True, but near death experience testimonies seem to be beyond mere "personal opinions." Often near death experiencers don't want to even talk about what they were shown for a decade or more due to how shocked they were by what they saw.

It seems to me that NDE accounts by Atheists, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Muslims or people's whose spirituality would be termed "New Age" do seem to come back with a message that fits with what has been shown to other near death experiencers.

Former Atheist and near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley was shown one of the most brilliant explanation for one future version of "The Mark of the Beast" of Book of Revelation fame that I have ever read.

[Near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley] :
BOX 12: Technology & Virus

The 11th box was gone & I was into the 12th box. Its visions addressed an important event in the distant future, the decade of the 90's (remember, this was 1975), when many of the great changes would take place. In this box, I watched as a biological engineer from the Middle East found a way to alter DNA & create a biological virus that would be used in the manufacture of computer chips. This discovery allowed for huge strides in science & technology. Japan, China, & other countries of the Pacific Rim experienced boom times as a result of this discovery & became powers of incredible magnitude. Computer chips produced from this process found their way into virtually every form of technology, from cars & airplanes to vacuum cleaners & blenders.

Before the turn of the century, this man was among the richest in the world, so rich that he had a stranglehold on the world economy. Still the world welcomed him, since the computer chips he had designed somehow put the world on an even keel. Gradually, he succumbed to his own power. He began to think of himself as a deity & insisted on greater control of the world. With that extra control, he began to rule the world.

His method of rule was unique. Everyone in the world was mandated by law to have one of his computer chips inserted underneath his or her skin. This chip contained all of an individual's personal information. If a government agency wanted to know something, all it had to do was scan your chip with a special device. By doing so, it could discover everything about you, from where you worked & lived to your medical records & even what kind of illnesses you might get in the future.

There was an even more sinister side to this chip. A person's lifetime could be limited by programming this chip to dissolve & kill him with the viral substance it was made from. Lifetimes were controlled like this to avoid the cost that growing old places on the government. It was also used as a means of eliminating people with chronic illnesses that put a drain on the medical system. People who refused to have chips implanted in their bodies roamed as outcasts. They could not be employed & were denied government services."
(Dannion Brinkley, Saved By The Light, chapter 5)

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[SaxonJackson]

True, but near death experience testimonies seem to be beyond mere "personal opinions." Often near death experiencers don't want to even talk about what they were shown for a decade or more due to how shocked they were by what they saw.

Near death experiences are not God's Word. We're relying on someone who was not in their right state of mind. We're trusting what they believe they saw and their personal interpretations of what they saw. Man is flawed. It may be interesting to hear about their experiences and how they interpret them but nothing they say can negate the written Word of God -- the Holy Scriptures.

It seems to me that NDE accounts by Atheists, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Muslims or people's whose spirituality would be termed "New Age" do seem to come back with a message that fits with what has been shown to other near death experiencers.

There are some things to take into account. 1) The veracity of a person's claim that they had a near death experience. 2) How one person's testimony may have influenced another person's testimony. 3) A person's command of language and their ability to properly articulate what they believe they envisioned. 4) How much influence dark forces may have played in the overall experience. 5) How much mind-altering chemicals may or may not have been in a person's system when they experienced their episode.

Former Atheist and near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley was shown one of the most brilliant explanation for one future version of "The Mark of the Beast" of Book of Revelation fame that I have ever read.

The best version of the "Mark of the Beast" I have ever seen is the one already written in The Revelation. You simply can't beat the authentic, original.

 

[August West]

Food for thought.

God, Himself, is referred to in the masculine.
Jesus Christ was male.
The vast majority of the Prophets were male.
All of the Apostles were men.
Church overseers (bishops) were to be husbands.
The only two individuals, Enoch & Elijah, who were taken up into heaven without experiencing death were men.

What if God, assuming that there is such a thing, was/is a Black woman?
More food for thought.

 

[Hafar1014]

What if God, assuming that there is such a thing, was/is a Black woman?
More food for thought.

God isnt human

 

[Hafar1014]

Near death experiences are not God's Word. We're relying on someone who was not in their right state of mind. We're trusting what they believe they saw and their personal interpretations of what they saw. Man is flawed. It may be interesting to hear about their experiences and how they interpret them but nothing they say can negate the written Word of God -- the Holy Scriptures.

There are some things to take into account. 1) The veracity of a person's claim that they had a near death experience. 2) How one person's testimony may have influenced another person's testimony. 3) A person's command of language and their ability to properly articulate what they believe they envisioned. 4) How much influence dark forces may have played in the overall experience. 5) How much mind-altering chemicals may or may not have been in a person's system when they experienced their episode.

The best version of the "Mark of the Beast" I have ever seen is the one already written in The Revelation. You simply can't beat the authentic, original.

I have experienced the after life and I wasnt under the influence of any drugs, I have masters degree in psychology, scientifically trained, get no benefit for stating this but I can assure you its real.

 

[braalian]

Food for thought.

God, Himself, is referred to in the masculine.
Jesus Christ was male.
The vast majority of the Prophets were male.
All of the Apostles were men.
Church overseers (bishops) were to be husbands.
The only two individuals, Enoch & Elijah, who were taken up into heaven without experiencing death were men.

That is merely a reflection of the times in which the Bible was written

Nothing more

 

[DennisPTate]

Near death experiences are not God's Word. We're relying on someone who was not in their right state of mind. We're trusting what they believe they saw and their personal interpretations of what they saw. Man is flawed. It may be interesting to hear about their experiences and how they interpret them but nothing they say can negate the written Word of God -- the Holy Scriptures.

There are some things to take into account. 1) The veracity of a person's claim that they had a near death experience. 2) How one person's testimony may have influenced another person's testimony. 3) A person's command of language and their ability to properly articulate what they believe they envisioned. 4) How much influence dark forces may have played in the overall experience. 5) How much mind-altering chemicals may or may not have been in a person's system when they experienced their episode.

The best version of the "Mark of the Beast" I have ever seen is the one already written in The Revelation. You simply can't beat the authentic, original.

Near death experience accounts are not "scripture" that is for sure but if a near death experiencer actually meets Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and is given a genuine message from their Creator then that testimony that could be compared win 2 Corinthians chapter twelves verses one to five could be amazingly valuable to reach some lost souls and help them to begin to turn around.

Professional theologians who make a living off the "gospel" may tend to fear near death experience accounts for many reasons though and one of them is the possibility that church members who tithe and give offerings might just decide to divert some of their tithes and offerings over to near death experiencer Robert Marshall IF a tithe paying church member does happen to hear the Robert Marshall near death experience testimony?

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[DennisPTate]

I have experienced the after life and I wasnt under the influence of any drugs, I have masters degree in psychology, scientifically trained, get no benefit for stating this but I can assure you its real.

Have you ever listened to the fascinating near death experience account of former ATheist and near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava?

For Yom Kippur 2025 I listened to at least four of his lectures and I think that it was one of the best Yom Kippur's that I ever had. [I plead guilty to being biased... I am of the belief that Moshiach ben David, Messiah the Passover Lamb who fulfilled Isaiah chapter fifty three DID NOT fill in certain details to Rabbi Alon Anava so that Rabbi Alon Anava could be like a modern "King Cyrus", [Isaiah 45], sort of person who could reach a high percentage of ten million Israelis who would not listen to Rabbi Alon Anava IF he had had met a certain somebody who others claim to have met.


www.AlonAnava.com/

About Rabbi Anava​

Rabbi Alon Anava was born and raised in Israel. He grew up in Ra’anana in a very secular family without any Torah education or knowledge. He grew up hating religion and anything that had to do with it. He did not believe in G-od and the Torah and lived life as a secular Jew. In 1998, he moved to New York and soon after, on a very special day, the morning of Passover 2001 he had a Near Death Experience due to a sudden cardiac arrest. This event has changed his life for the GOOD!!!

Before his life-altering experience, Alon would describe himself as simply put, ‘not a nice guy..’ but after facing death, and realizing the purpose of life, Alon transformed his very being and since then dedicates his life to serving G-od and Torah observance. Soon After his Near Death Experience he diligently attended Yeshiva studying every day, exploring the depths of Torah, refining and elevating himself on a daily basis for over a decade. Rabbi Alon Anava attended his Rabbinical studies at Yeshivah Kol Ya’akov – Hadar Hatorah in Brooklyn, New York.

After seven years of Yeshivah studies, Rabbi Anava started sharing his Near Death Experience with the public lecturing all around the world at Schools, Synagogues, Yeshivahs, outreach programs and organizations, private sessions and much more, reaching tens of thousands of people at over 2,500 lectures in the past fifteen years. In the past 8 years Rabbi Anava has expanded his out reach efforts through the internet reaching tens of thousands of people resulting with over 500,000 followers worldwide on the internet and social networks. With over 25,000,000 views to his videos, over 1,000,000 DVDs and CDs distributed, his followers enjoy daily Torah studying on his websites, social networks, videos, podcasts, live streaming and live Torah classes and lectures. Rabbi Anava’s followers enjoy his undivided attention through daily phone calls, skype meetings, personal and group meetings along with coaching and assistance. Rabbi Anava and his wife opens their home for hundreds of guests that enjoy their warm and loving hospitality and uplifting Shabbat and holiday meals.

Alon has come back with a gift. He is able to connect to our creator in a very intimate way, allowing him to also connect intimately with others and really help them overcome their questions and concerns and lead and teach them to the right path of Torah observance.

Alon devotes his life to spreading G-od wisdom by teaching Torah every day at lectures, seminars, home gatherings, schools etc., and sharing his personal life changing experience all over the world. He spends his time sharing his story in an attempt to make it as real for you as it is for him. Our hope is that you as the listener will absorb Alon’s story and wake up to the reality of this world. We hope that you will have the strength within you to rise above what seems like the prevailing darkness and choose light. We encourage you to connect to your maker and begin your spiritual journey to better yourself and humanity as a whole. We encourage you to see the miracle of you!

There are certain aspects of the Rabbi Alon Anava NDE account that ring a bell with me on a very special level? Rabbi Yeshayahu Hollander gave me permission to share our correspondence with people who I felt might just assist with the general idea that I had been thinking about.

Yeshayahu Hollander
From:yeshol
@gmail.com
To:tate4pictoucentre
@yahoo.ca
Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:12 PM

Dear Mr. Tate,​

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I read with interest all you wrote, and to understand more about you I did a search and see that you have written MP Peter Mackay regarding abortion. I congratulate you on every word in this letter, an excellent letter in content and form. ​

I started with this because it is relatively simple and straightforword. ​

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The ideas you wrote about in the current letter are so much more commplex.​

There is no doubt that the Almighty has many means of delivering messages to people. There is no doubt that many people receive messages from the Almighty. ​

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While it is not possible to discount other iterpretations of your dreams and changes of you thoughts, it is clear that you have a comprehensive world-picture, and that this letter is an expression of the important points you saw fit to write me. ​

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Naturally, I am interested to learn more about your advocacy "that my nation assist The Temple Mount Faithful Community, People For A Bill to Build The Bet HaMikdash and The Sanhedrin in your efforts to control the Temple Mount and rebuild your Jerusalem Third Temple". Why do you thing that this advocacy will help you as a "minor Canadian politician" who is starting his campaign.​

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Of course we appreciate your support and would like to help you in this - and for that matter in your efforts against abortion. According to the Holy Torah, the prohibition of abortion [except in extreme cases, as you mention] was one of the commands of God to Noah [Genesis 9,6, the KJV translation is not equivalent to the Jewish tradition (it really wasn't meant to be!)] According to our understanding, this means that killing a person who is still inside its mother is a capital crime. ​

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Please send us some more elaboration of your ideas. ​

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Sincerely, ​

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Shalom,​

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Rabby Yeshayahu Hollander ​

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On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Dennis Tate <tate4pictoucentre​

@yahoo.ca> wrote:​

Shalom Rabbi Hollander: I've been participating on The Sanhedrin message board and I was urged to contact you directly. So far as I know I am probably the first minor Canadian politician who has advocated that my nation assist The Temple Mount Faithful Community, People For A Bill to Build The Bet HaMikdash and The Sanhedriin in your efforts to control the Temple Mount and rebuild your Jerusalem Third Temple. It is my firm belief that semi-reality and reality film series could play an important role in working out the fulfillment of every word spoken in the law and in the prophets. My dad, Robert Stewart Tate, passed away on January 1, 1990. His death came at the same time that I was being confronted with the implications of the near death experience accounts. I went through a theological crisis that I believe has relevance for your SanHedrin. "but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Aza'zel." (Leviticus 16:10) I had no problem with the positive near death experiences but those negative ones put me into a philosophical crisis unlike I had ever experienced before. I saw this verse in Leviticus as a possible loophole and I asked that the guilt of Azazel would be put on my head. I prayed and asked The G-d of Abraham if he had any use for a volunteer "goat for Azazel?" If so, then I wanted to submit my application for the job. Several unusual things did occur since that time that I feel indicates that my offer may well have been accepted. I would like to elaborate further on how I feel a volunteer goat for Azazel could perhaps be of use in the working out of latter day events in such a way that the death toll is kept to an absolute minimum. Although I am not certain exactly what a volunteer goat for Azazel should do I have seen a videotape in my head of myself signing currency units while my hand is bleeding. The blood that drips onto a particular part of those currency units, along with many examples of my signature serves to authenticate the validity of these specific currency units for a future in which they could turn out to be quite useful. I hereby offer to The Sanhedrin 22 billion Dennis Tate shekels or dollars, similar to CalgaryDollars.ca or the Ithaca Hour. Bill and Melinda Gates are planning on spending 24 billion US dollars in an effort to make this world a better place. I wish to compete with them. This 22 billion in a sense can be used as props in many reality films that tend to promote peace in the Middle East and the reestablishment of the law of Moshe even in foreign lands. It is my belief that the films that you are guided to produce and direct will greatly increase in value over the coming decades and centuries. Shalom and greetings from Nova Scotia.

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On an interesting note it was Rabbi Yeshayahu Hollander who assisted my online friend Ms. Ariela Solsol Periera to make Aliyah to Israel!

A first hand account of a profound and prophetic Near Death Experience. What actually awaits every person when they leave this material world? Do heaven and hell really exist? Are they both eternal realms? How can a loving God condemn a soul to hell for all eternity? Who is the Messiah and what did He accomplish for us? Is America now being warned to repent before it's too late and God's severe judgements fall upon this once great nation? Do miscarried and aborted babies have souls? If so, where do their souls go when they leave this world? Does life truly begin at conception? Does God recognize our man made Denominations? Why did God choose Israel and the Jews? These and many more important spiritual questions are answered with unusual simplicity and clarity. Israel and the Jews are indeed God's very own Chosen People. They were Chosen by God to be the bearers of the Truth and begetters of the Messiah, Savior of all mankind. By way of Israel and the Jews...God has blessed the entire world as was promised to Abraham, the Patriarch. The continued existence of the Jews through centuries of dispersal and persecution, caused by the intense hatred of their enemies, is a mute testimony and clear evidence of the existence of the One,True God of Israel. The restoration of the nation of Israel in modern times, in precise fulfillment of ancient prophecies, is sufficient evidence of the authenticity and inerrancy of the Divinely Inspired Word of God. Someday soon, a Jew named Jesus(Yeshua), will rule the entire world from the remote, insignificant and relatively unknown city of....Jerusalem.

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[Anathema]

Sounds to me like another reason why I never want to be in Heaven. Excellent!!!

 

[DennisPTate]

What if God, assuming that there is such a thing, was/is a Black woman?
More food for thought.

Yes, YHWH is IN all eight billion of us!

It seems to me as if all eight billion of us have a little spark from our Creator in us that actually existed even before we were conceived.

This spark from our Creator that is in us VOLUNTEERED to incarnate as a mere human for many, many, many, many reasons that fit with some sort of a MISSION that absolutely every one of us is on.

Ms. Harriet Tubman was a lot like a modern MOSES - MOSHE and she changed the entire world by her astonishing twenty two missions into territory where slavery was still legal.

The 2019 biographical drama film Harriet chronicles the life of abolitionist Harriet Tubman. Directed by Kasi Lemmons and starring Cynthia Erivo, it follows Tubman’s harrowing escape from slavery in Maryland and her dangerous, repeated missions along the Underground Railroad to liberate others. [1, 2, 3]

Plot Overview
The film focuses heavily on the decade following Tubman's 1849 escape from a Maryland plantation. After traveling roughly 100 miles on foot to the free state of Philadelphia, she connects with the Anti-Slavery Society. Haunted by the family she left behind, she repeatedly returns to dangerous territory to lead dozens of enslaved people to freedom. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Cast & Crew

• Harriet Tubman: Cynthia Erivo
• William Still: Leslie Odom Jr. (Philadelphia abolitionist)
  • Gideon Brodess: Joe Alwyn (The plantation owner's son pursuing Harriet)
  • Marie Buchanon: Janelle Monáe
  • Director: Kasi Lemmons [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Historical Context
While the film is broadly praised for Erivo’s powerful performance and suspenseful rescue sequences, it takes some creative liberties. It focuses tightly on her Underground Railroad days, omitting later life milestones like her time as a Union scout and spy, her work in the women's suffrage movement, and her later activism