Attention: Episcopalians & Christian Sects of All Denominations Worldwide. Pay Heed.

People are not churches in this nation. Get over it. You can pretend otherwise all you wish but the law isn't on your side. Sorry.

Have you read the 1st and 9th Amendments? Can you present readers here with a link to where the word "church" is used in the 1st Amendment? Or where in the 9th Amendment it says it's OK sometimes for one Constitutional provision to squelch, suppress or extinguish the rights guaranteed in another?

Thanks!

Still waiting for those links mdk. You found them yet?
 
People are not churches in this nation. Get over it. You can pretend otherwise all you wish but the law isn't on your side. Sorry.

Have you read the 1st and 9th Amendments? Can you present readers here with a link to where the word "church" is used in the 1st Amendment? Or where in the 9th Amendment it says it's OK sometimes for one Constitutional provision to squelch, suppress or extinguish the rights guaranteed in another?

Thanks!

Still waiting for those links mdk. You found them yet?
You seem like the kind of person that would deny freedoms to all Americans....all in the name of your religion.....
 
People are not churches in this nation. Get over it. You can pretend otherwise all you wish but the law isn't on your side. Sorry.

Have you read the 1st and 9th Amendments? Can you present readers here with a link to where the word "church" is used in the 1st Amendment? Or where in the 9th Amendment it says it's OK sometimes for one Constitutional provision to squelch, suppress or extinguish the rights guaranteed in another?

Thanks!

Still waiting for those links mdk. You found them yet?

Why would go searching for links to claim I've never made? You're assigning a position to me and then demand I defend it. Sorry, that isn't going to happen.

Still waiting for proof that Roof is gay and those White House logs, Sil. Hop to it!
 
This belongs in the "religion" forum.
No, this belongs in the current events forum because currently the churches tax exempt status is being spoken about being revoked if they don't fall in line with the LGBT cult demands. That's political Jar Jar, and current.
 
This belongs in the "religion" forum.
No, this belongs in the current events forum because currently the churches tax exempt status is being spoken about being revoked if they don't fall in line with the LGBT cult demands. That's political Jar Jar, and current.

And besides- this is part of Silhouette's homophobic meltdown- and damn it she wants it in current events!
 
Back to the topic..

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For a great multitude of gay activists, this whole thing is not about getting married at all, but rather a shoehorn to get adoptable orphans and to force Christians to abdicate their faith...and the religion itself altogether eventually...

...Because activists have read the Bible and they refuse to allow the concept of "having sex with another dude's anus is forbidden" continue to exist in the same universe they live in. How will kids learn sex with another man's anus is "OK, normal, fine" if there's people around saying and teaching that it isn't?....No, since they cannot reproduce, for the gay men anyway, it's "do or die"...and Christianity is what they've decided "has to die".. They see it, and logically-so, as a hated-barrier to their end game. Pun intended.

So, long story short, literally in order for their gay male culture to live, Christianity HAS to die. And they're going to try to stack the legal dice society can't have a say in the matter.
 
"Those of us who believe that marriage was ordained by God and reserved for one man and one woman, will not abide by this ruling," said Pastor Rick Scarborough, president of Vision America Action in Nacogdoches, Texas. "We will denounce this practice in our services, we will not teach it in our schools, we will refuse to officiate at this type of wedding, and we will not accept any encroachments on our First Amendment rights. The Supreme Court's decision to redefine marriage from its biblical origins is offensive to millions." Gay marriage Religious leaders reject ruling as legal battles loom WIBR WARN Radio--Covering the End of Days as they happen
more..
Such anti-religious sentiments worry David Lane of the American Renewal Project, who is training pastors nationwide in how to run for office. He predicted legal attacks on churches and other groups who oppose same-sex marriage..."They are going to say to churches, 'If you are going to have a tax-exempt status, you are going to perform homosexual marriage..
Mr. Lane said. "They are going to say to Christian radio, 'Homosexual marriage is the law of the land determined by the Supreme Court. If you don't agree with that, then you are going to lose your FCC licenses.' This is where it is headed - easily it is. I am convinced of it."
Members of Congress, led by Sen. Mike Lee, Utah Republican, and Rep. Raul R. Labrador, Idaho Republican, have introduced a First Amendment Defense Act, which would prevent the federal government from discriminating against anyone who believes marriage is the union of one man and one woman.
Congress and state governments should "move immediately" to enact First Amendment Defense Acts, said Brian Brown, president of the National Organization for Marriage.
There's already a "First Amendment Defense Act". It's called "the 9th Amendment". This is a new civil rights cause. No judge or jury or panel or law may suppress someone's civil right to the 1st Amendment. But if they want some visible redundancy, sure, extra emphasis of the 9th wouldn't hurt.
 
You seem like the kind of person that would deny freedoms to all Americans....all in the name of your religion.....
You seem like the kind of person that would deny freedom of the 1st Amendment civil rights to all Americans...all in the name of your cult.

Enter: The 20-teens New Civil Rights Movement"..
 
Back to the topic..

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For a great multitude of gay activists, this whole thing is not about getting married at all, but rather a shoehorn to get adoptable orphans and to force Christians to abdicate their faith...and the religion itself altogether eventually...r.

All of your posts are nothing more than about advocating discrimination against homosexuals.

Your meltdown continues along with your lies.
 
All of your posts are nothing more than about advocating discrimination against homosexuals.

Your meltdown continues along with your lies.

I could just as easily say that all your posts are nothing more than about advocating discrimination against Christians. Your suppression of their civil rights continues along with your lies.
 
The religious liberty fight isn’t about what happens inside the sanctuary. First Amendment protections for worship and clergy are clear. Potential conflicts could arise, however, over religious organizations with some business in the public arena. That category ranges from small religious associations that rent reception halls to the public, to the nation’s massive network of faith-based social service agencies that receive millions of dollars in government grants. Some groups, such as the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, also want protections for individual business owners who consider it immoral to provide benefits for the same-sex spouse of an employee or cater gay weddings....U.S. Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy raised the issue in the majority opinion Friday granting gays the right to marry. He said First Amendment protections are in place for religious objectors, who “may continue to advocate with utmost, sincere conviction that, by divine precepts, same-sex marriage should not be condoned.”...But in his dissent, Chief Justice John Roberts predicted a clash ahead between religious freedom and same-sex marriage. He specifically noted the dilemma for religious colleges that provide married student housing, and adoption agencies that won’t place children with gay couples....“There is little doubt that these and similar questions will soon be before this court,” Roberts wrote. Religious conservatives fighting gay marriage ruling

So Kennedy knew that this decision was going to usher in a legal nightmare...hmm....interesting.....
 
All of your posts are nothing more than about advocating discrimination against homosexuals.

Your meltdown continues along with your lies.

I could just as easily say that all your posts are nothing more than about advocating discrimination against Christians. Your suppression of their civil rights continues along with your lies.

Well you say all sorts of crap- so this would be nothing new or surprising.

Your meltdown continue along with your lies.
 
And many still think this is about "rights and equality". It's about submission.

Meanwhile- people in love are getting married.

And the bigots gnash their terrible teeth and pull their chest hairs and demand that we discriminate against homosexuals!
 
Meanwhile- people in love are getting married.

And the bigots gnash their terrible teeth and pull their chest hairs and demand that we discriminate against homosexuals!

That's fine, you and soon the polygamists will all be legally married (technically, June 26, 2015's Ruling made polygamy legal too). Just not as a mandate that Christians condone or participate in your deviant sex behaviors-as-married. The Christian faith recognizes the importance of a mother and the importance of a father. You cannot force them to not recognize this importance.

And marriage is the hub of any society. Allowing homosexuals to take over that vehicle is one and the same as promoting the spread of their cult. Christians are forbidden under pain of etermal peril and soul-death to not aid that spread in any way, shape or form. That includes "gay wedding cakes", "gay wedding pictures", "gay wedding flowers", "gay wedding photos" and all the rest. On any normal day, feed the sinner a sandwich, sell them a coat, give them a job, sure, no problem; that's not enabling the spread of a cultural movement. Marriage is. That's the difference.

There is no substitute for a mother. There is no substitute for a father. Children need both. Marriage was set up to meet that need.
 
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And many still think this is about "rights and equality". It's about submission.
Yes, like I said. The notion of "gay sex is wrong" and "gay sex is right!" cannot exist in the same political universe. If the cult wants to survive, Christianity must die.
 
Here it is, just like I warned in the OP: From post #232 here: For all the Bigoted Bakers Fanatical Florists and Pharisee Photographers US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

I am just wondering how far you are willing to take your strict adherence to the Bible in doing your business. Okay. So you don't want to provide wedding services to gay folks because Leviticus 18:22 says so. Well, why stop there? The Bible also says that adultery and sex before marriage are wrong. Deuteronomy 22:13-21 is very clear a woman who is not a virgin on her wedding night shall be stoned. Admittedly, it might be a bit harsh to determine who is a virgin, but you could at least eliminate the 50% of women who live with their boyfriends before marriage. Okay, next up, we need to talk about what you are wearing, Girlfriend. Deuteronomy 22:5 says that a woman shall not wear clothing meant for a man. That means all you ladies who wear slacks and jeans and pantsuits! Clearly, a truly biblical business can't work for such sinners! ..and if that's too "Old Testament" for you, 1 Timothy 2:9 and 1 Peter 3:3 both state women should wear neither braids nor jewelry. so if they plan to wear any of that at their wedding, clearly it would offend your magic fairy in the sky to no end....Hey, and Heaven forbid that they be one of those "liberated" women who write their own vows at a wedding....Ephesians 5:22-24 says that they should totally submit to their husbands, and 1 Corinthians 14:34-36 says they should keep their mouths shut in church....So really, now that you've eliminated about 99% of your potential customers, you can no doubt say that your objections to serving gays was really about the Bible... because you are also following all the other rules the bible sets down.
The point of the OP is to get Christians to start citing the Old Testament, which is merely a reference but not a set of edicts. The New Testament of course are the teachings of Jesus Christ. That's what Christians base their faith & decisions on. Notice the OP in the quote above made no mention of the New Testament's mortal sins described in Jude 1 or Romans 1.

This is a prelude of what's to come in Court. They literally will be debating the Bible. The cult of LGBT will say "you're honors, should we start stoning people for taking the Lord's name in vain?". (The Courtroom snickers)..."so then..your honors, how seriously can we take these claims of Jude 1 or Romans 1? How silly!".

[and therefore the entire teachings of Jesus Christ, including the ones forbidding the aid of spreading homosexuality as a cult/social movement will all be thrown in the waste bin].
 

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