Antarctica undergoing severe and long-lasting heat wave

[Toddsterpatriot]

More precisely, between 30-50 million years ago, the top of North America crossed over the 600 miles to the Pole threshold and hence started to stack ice. 50 million was the accepted number prior to McBullshit.






Melting 5+ million cubic miles of ice takes some time. Given the map of Northern Canada, what is underwater today was filled with ice 5 million years ago. Ellesmere Island is still within 600 miles of the Pole and hence is still in Ice Age, which is why it has 0.3% of Earth ice now. What officially shut off the North American Ice Age is when Ellesmere Island's current surrounding water changed from ice to water. We can only guess when and why, but clearly there are undersea volcanoes in the Arctic Ocean. My guess is that happened in the past 1- 5 million years. so call it 3 million years ago, and once it happened, it shut off North American Ice Age from the 600 miles to the Pole threshold, and hence NAIA ceased to grow and started to melt. Or more precisely, the ice coming south from the top of Northern Canada ceased, leaving a huge ice sheet with no "reinforcements."

More precisely, between 30-50 million years ago, the top of North America crossed over the 600 miles to the Pole threshold and hence started to stack ice.

And when did it get to be 600 miles and 10 feet away?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You would be arguing that Greenland was "frozen" way further south than it was 2 million years ago, the last time it was green.

Just rewind the fault at the center bottom of the Atlantic.


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You would be arguing that Greenland was "frozen" way further south than it was 2 million years ago, the last time it was green.

I'm not arguing, you are.
I still haven't seen your evidence.

Post it already.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

More precisely, between 30-50 million years ago, the top of North America crossed over the 600 miles to the Pole threshold and hence started to stack ice. 50 million was the accepted number prior to McBullshit.






Melting 5+ million cubic miles of ice takes some time. Given the map of Northern Canada, what is underwater today was filled with ice 5 million years ago. Ellesmere Island is still within 600 miles of the Pole and hence is still in Ice Age, which is why it has 0.3% of Earth ice now. What officially shut off the North American Ice Age is when Ellesmere Island's current surrounding water changed from ice to water. We can only guess when and why, but clearly there are undersea volcanoes in the Arctic Ocean. My guess is that happened in the past 1- 5 million years. so call it 3 million years ago, and once it happened, it shut off North American Ice Age from the 600 miles to the Pole threshold, and hence NAIA ceased to grow and started to melt. Or more precisely, the ice coming south from the top of Northern Canada ceased, leaving a huge ice sheet with no "reinforcements."

What officially shut off the North American Ice Age is when Ellesmere Island's current surrounding water changed from ice to water.

Water on the edge of a continent sized ice sheet caused ice thousands of miles away to start melting?

Or more precisely, the ice coming south from the top of Northern Canada ceased, leaving a huge ice sheet with no "reinforcements."

A bit of water hundreds of miles away from the top of Northern Canada
can cut an ice sheet across thousands of miles? Was it magic water?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Sorry, assumed you meant 50 mil.

50k years ago Greenland's ice age had yet to cover the southern peninsula, likely held up by the mountain range just north of the peninsula.

We have good data on Greenland.

Totally green 2 million years ago at the top.

A 2-million-year-old ecosystem in Greenland uncovered by environmental DNA - Nature

Analysis of two-million-year-old ancient environmental DNA from the Kap København Formation in North Greenland shows there was an open boreal forest with diverse plant and animal species, of which several taxa have not previously been detected at the site, representing an ecosystem that has no...

www.nature.com

Middle went from forest to ice age 400-800k years ago...

Ancient Greenland Was Actually Green

Greenland was once carpeted in lush forests, a new study shows.

www.livescience.com

The Vikings farmed the Southern Tip aka peninsula until the 1400 when they were frozen out by the advancing ice age.

Totally green 2 million years ago at the top.

What was its latitude at the northern tip 2 million years ago?

 

[EMH]

More precisely, between 30-50 million years ago, the top of North America crossed over the 600 miles to the Pole threshold and hence started to stack ice.

And when did it get to be 600 miles and 10 feet away?

Clearly, 600 miles is not precise enough for Mr. Spock, but whatever the precise distance is, 600 miles is very close to it.

 

[EMH]

Totally green 2 million years ago at the top.

What was its latitude at the northern tip 2 million years ago?

In the North Atlantic, the rate of movement is only about 1 cm (about 0.4 in) per year, while in the Pacific it amounts to more than 4 cm (almost 2 in) annually


I'm getting 10-20 miles SSE of where it is now.

 

[Dante]

As has been the case for many years now, the poles are undergoing the greatest warming on the planet. This, of course, contributes to increasing sea level rise and decreasing albedo. Increased polar meltwater tends to reduce the thermohaline drivers of the AMOC.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/07/31/antarctica-heat-wave-warming-climate/

Antarctica experiences unprecedented midwinter heat wave

East Antarctica is experiencing a massive heat wave, with temperatures spiking 50 degrees above normal, highlighting the ongoing impacts of climate change on polar regions.Kasha Patel reports for The Washington Post.In short:Ground temperatures in East Antarctica have soared more than 50 degrees...

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Antarctic cold spells shatter records amid global heat waves in late winter 2023

While 2023 is noted for breaking global temperature records (State of the Global Climate 2023), the year also brought an unexpected twist with extreme cold events in Antarctica. A new study published in Advances in Atmospheric Sciences reveals the surprising and severe cold spells that struck...

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This kind of stuff - facts, science it brings out all the creepy weirdos.

They'll flood his thread like a weirdo god with an old man and an ark.

 

[EMH]

What officially shut off the North American Ice Age is when Ellesmere Island's current surrounding water changed from ice to water.

Water on the edge of a continent sized ice sheet caused ice thousands of miles away to start melting?

Or more precisely, the ice coming south from the top of Northern Canada ceased, leaving a huge ice sheet with no "reinforcements."

A bit of water hundreds of miles away from the top of Northern Canada
can cut an ice sheet across thousands of miles? Was it magic water?

LOL!!!

Like Greenland, the North American Ice Age starts at the northern most part, and the glacier flows south. We've seen where it melted, south of Illinois originally, tens of millions of years ago, and then closer to Chicago when the "shut off" occurred. So you have "glacier manufacturing" up north that pushes glaciers south until they melt just south of Chicago in the past few million years. If you shut off the "glacier manufacturing" up north, you no longer push the ice further south, and the ice addition of the winter starts to fail to overcome what melts in the summer, the ice starts shrinking.

 

[EMH]

This kind of stuff - facts, science it brings out all the creepy weirdos.

They'll flood his thread like a weirdo god with an old man and an ark.

SHOW US ONE PHOTO OF OCEAN RISE, and when you cannot, ASK YOURSELF WHY NOT....

 

[Dante]

As has been the case for many years now, the poles are undergoing the greatest warming on the planet. This, of course, contributes to increasing sea level rise and decreasing albedo. Increased polar meltwater tends to reduce the thermohaline drivers of the AMOC.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/07/31/antarctica-heat-wave-warming-climate/

Antarctica experiences unprecedented midwinter heat wave

East Antarctica is experiencing a massive heat wave, with temperatures spiking 50 degrees above normal, highlighting the ongoing impacts of climate change on polar regions.Kasha Patel reports for The Washington Post.In short:Ground temperatures in East Antarctica have soared more than 50 degrees...

www.ehn.org

Antarctic cold spells shatter records amid global heat waves in late winter 2023

While 2023 is noted for breaking global temperature records (State of the Global Climate 2023), the year also brought an unexpected twist with extreme cold events in Antarctica. A new study published in Advances in Atmospheric Sciences reveals the surprising and severe cold spells that struck...

phys.org

Ground temperatures in East Antarctica have soared more than 50 degrees (28 Celsius) above normal in the second major heat wave to afflict the region in the past two years. This historic warm spell could persist for another 10 days and is an ominous example of the major temperature spikes this polar climate could experience more frequently in a warming world.

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“This heat wave is a near-record (or record) event for the region of Antarctica it’s having the biggest impact on,” Edward Blanchard, an atmospheric scientist at the University of Washington, said in an email. “The heat wave’s large footprint is also remarkable,” as it covers a large section of East Antarctica, which makes up most of the continent.

The heat wave comes in the middle of the Antarctic winter, so temperatures are still hovering around minus-4 (minus-20 Celsius). Still, the Antarctic temperature anomaly is the largest on the globe, according to weather models.

 

[Dante]

SHOW US ONE PHOTO OF OCEAN RISE, and when you cannot, ASK YOURSELF WHY NOT....

Rising Waters Sea Level: NASA Infrastructure

A look at how NASA is dealing with the threat of sea level rise to its coastal infrastructure, particularly at Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia,

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A look at how NASA is dealing with the threat of sea level rise to its coastal infrastructure, particularly at Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia, and Ames Research Center in Mountain View, California.

 

[Dante]

SHOW US ONE PHOTO OF OCEAN RISE, and when you cannot, ASK YOURSELF WHY NOT....

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[EMH]

Rising Waters Sea Level: NASA Infrastructure

A look at how NASA is dealing with the threat of sea level rise to its coastal infrastructure, particularly at Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia,

plus.nasa.gov

A look at how NASA is dealing with the threat of sea level rise to its coastal infrastructure, particularly at Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia, and Ames Research Center in Mountain View, California.

YOU FAILED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

YOU WERE ASKED TO SHOW US ONE SINGLE PHOTO OF OCEAN RISE

YOU CANNOT DO THAT BECAUSE OCEANS ARE NOT RISING, and you and your side are sick Mengele style whack jobs for claiming it is.

 

[EMH]

NO OCEAN RISE

sincerely,

Statue of Liberty

NO OCEAN RISE =

NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT

=


PLANET EARTH NOT WARMING

 

[EMH]

Ground temperatures in East Antarctica have soared more than 50 degrees (28 Celsius) above normal in the second major heat wave to afflict the region in the past two years. This historic warm spell could persist for another 10 days and is an ominous example of the major temperature spikes this polar climate could experience more frequently in a warming world.


“This heat wave is a near-record (or record) event for the region of Antarctica it’s having the biggest impact on,” Edward Blanchard, an atmospheric scientist at the University of Washington, said in an email. “The heat wave’s large footprint is also remarkable,” as it covers a large section of East Antarctica, which makes up most of the continent.

The heat wave comes in the middle of the Antarctic winter, so temperatures are still hovering around minus-4 (minus-20 Celsius). Still, the Antarctic temperature anomaly is the largest on the globe, according to weather models.

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Weather is not climate

Earth climate data

NO WARMING in the ATMOSPHERE
NO WARMING in the OCEANS
NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT
NO BREAKOUT IN CANE ACTIVITY
NO OCEAN RISE

 

[Dante]

YOU FAILED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

YOU WERE ASKED TO SHOW US ONE SINGLE PHOTO OF OCEAN RISE

YOU CANNOT DO THAT BECAUSE OCEANS ARE NOT RISING, and you and your side are sick Mengele style whack jobs for claiming it is.

I know you.

You're the guy on an interweb message board who claims he knows more than all the scientists at NASA.

 

[Dante]

Weather is not climate

correct

NASA Climate Kids 4 U

Weather And Climate

climatekids.nasa.gov

Weather And Climate​

The Brief Overview​

Weather is a specific event—like a rainstorm or hot day—that happens over a few hours, days or weeks. Climate is the average weather conditions in a place over 30 years or more. NASA has observed that Earth's climate is getting warmer.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In the North Atlantic, the rate of movement is only about 1 cm (about 0.4 in) per year, while in the Pacific it amounts to more than 4 cm (almost 2 in) annually


I'm getting 10-20 miles SSE of where it is now.

20 miles or less is the difference between totally green and totally covered in ice?

 

[ding]

I know you.

You're the guy on an interweb message board who claims he knows more than all the scientists at NASA.

No, he's a senile old man shaking his fist at clouds. He's a moron. He's perfect for you to argue with.

 

[EMH]

I know you.

You're the guy on an interweb message board who claims he knows more than all the scientists at NASA.

LOL!!

I know you. You are a treasonous left wing beaked birdbrain science invalid parrot of lies who CANNOT SHOW US ONE SINGLE PHOTO OF OCEAN "RISE"