America: “You have the RIGHT to an attorney”.....but not a doctor right guys?

[jc456]

100% of Americans would have health care.

100% of veterans had health care under the VA, and it sucked. Is that what you envision for the entire country? because thats what we would have under medicare for all, or any other of the stupid democrat ideas.

Under Medicare for all we would have Medicare for all which is a very popular program.

basic medicare pays 80% of your medical bills, YOU are on the hook for 20% unless you BUY a medicare supplement or sign up for a medicare advantage plan through an insurance company.

AND, those currently on medicare paid for it out of every paycheck while working------------the paid in advance. ITS NOT FREE AND IT WON'T BE FREE IF IT APPLIES TO EVERYONE. Your taxes will go up as will mine and everyone else's

Would you give a tax credit for the amounts already paid in via payroll deductions?

You libs never think anything through----------just jump up and down screaming "its free, its free"

This has all been covered over and over but that matters none to you. You yell "It's free" because it's the only bogus argument you feel that will work to get people to vote against their better interests.

It's odd that we never ask how we will pay for war at that. I pay a lot for insurance now. Directly or through taxes, it's six of one, half dozen of another but unlike you , I am willing to fund the things I support.

We pay for DEFENSE because it's a Constitutional requirement. Taxpayer funded health insurance isn't a Constitutional requirement. Idiot.

I went and looked up some countries, I find the language inconsistent. Almost like they want it to be something it really isn't. too funny. Here is Switzerland.

Healthcare in Switzerland - Wikipedia

Healthcare in Switzerland is universal[3] and is regulated by the Swiss Federal Law on Health Insurance. There are no free state-provided health services, but private health insurance is compulsory for all persons residing in Switzerland (within three months of taking up residence or being born in the country).[4][5][6]

Health insurance covers the costs of medical treatment and hospitalisation of the insured. However, the insured person pays part of the cost of treatment. This is done (a) by means of an annual deductible (called the franchise), which ranges from CHF 300 (PPP-adjusted US$ 184) to a maximum of CHF 2,500 (PPP-adjusted $1,534) for an adult as chosen by the insured person (premiums are adjusted accordingly) and (b) by a charge of 10% of the costs over and above the excess up to a stop-loss amount of CHF 700 (PPP-adjusted $429).

 

[pknopp]

Under Medicare for all we would have Medicare for all which is a very popular program.

basic medicare pays 80% of your medical bills, YOU are on the hook for 20% unless you BUY a medicare supplement or sign up for a medicare advantage plan through an insurance company.

AND, those currently on medicare paid for it out of every paycheck while working------------the paid in advance. ITS NOT FREE AND IT WON'T BE FREE IF IT APPLIES TO EVERYONE. Your taxes will go up as will mine and everyone else's

Would you give a tax credit for the amounts already paid in via payroll deductions?

You libs never think anything through----------just jump up and down screaming "its free, its free"

This has all been covered over and over but that matters none to you. You yell "It's free" because it's the only bogus argument you feel that will work to get people to vote against their better interests.

It's odd that we never ask how we will pay for war at that. I pay a lot for insurance now. Directly or through taxes, it's six of one, half dozen of another but unlike you , I am willing to fund the things I support.

So you think the government can manage healthcare more efficiently than private for-profit companies? Tell us which government agency operates efficiently, and give us examples of the efficiency.

How about the VA? was that well run and did it deliver a quality product to veterans? How about the food stamp program and welfare? Are they run efficiently and with no waste? and the one you dems hate the most, the pentagon. is it run efficiently?

This gets real old. You ask a question, I answer it but then in every second post by you, you ask it again.

People support Medicare. They like the program. Go ahead and try and end it.

I agree, medicare is a good program and the people on it like it-----------------But, what you refuse to comprehend is that they paid in advance for it their entire working lives. There isn't enough money being collected by the government to put 330,000,000 people on medicare without a huge tax increase on everyone-------even you.

We already spend a huge amount.

 

[pknopp]

They all have UHC.

name one, show me how they pay for it. BTW, we have universal healthcare for all today. you just don't like the way it is privately run.

No we don't. There are still millions without health care.

Horseshit! No one in the USA is being denied medical care today. Not having insurance does not mean you can't bet medical care. Ever hear of medicaid? the ignorance displayed by liberals on this subject is amazing.

If you get cancer you can quit your job, go on welfare and medicaid after you exhaust everything you have worked for. If you see that as a positive, well.................

If that is the extreme you have to go to to get treatment, you are likely terminal. You're gonna lose everything you worked for anyway. Just saying.

.

Cancer treatment is extremely expensive terminal or not. As is treatment for many other things which aren't terminal.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Cancer treatment is extremely expensive terminal or not. As is treatment for many other things which aren't terminal.

And, do you know why?

(this ought to be good)

.

 

[pknopp]

100% of Americans would have health care.

100% of veterans had health care under the VA, and it sucked. Is that what you envision for the entire country? because thats what we would have under medicare for all, or any other of the stupid democrat ideas.

Under Medicare for all we would have Medicare for all which is a very popular program.

basic medicare pays 80% of your medical bills, YOU are on the hook for 20% unless you BUY a medicare supplement or sign up for a medicare advantage plan through an insurance company.

AND, those currently on medicare paid for it out of every paycheck while working------------the paid in advance. ITS NOT FREE AND IT WON'T BE FREE IF IT APPLIES TO EVERYONE. Your taxes will go up as will mine and everyone else's

Would you give a tax credit for the amounts already paid in via payroll deductions?

You libs never think anything through----------just jump up and down screaming "its free, its free"

This has all been covered over and over but that matters none to you. You yell "It's free" because it's the only bogus argument you feel that will work to get people to vote against their better interests.

It's odd that we never ask how we will pay for war at that. I pay a lot for insurance now. Directly or through taxes, it's six of one, half dozen of another but unlike you , I am willing to fund the things I support.

We pay for DEFENSE because it's a Constitutional requirement. Taxpayer funded health insurance isn't a Constitutional requirement. Idiot.

We are 23 trillion in debt. We are not paying for war.

 

[pknopp]

Cancer treatment is extremely expensive terminal or not. As is treatment for many other things which aren't terminal.

And, do you know why?

(this ought to be good)

.

There are many reasons.

The cancer in cancer medicine: pharma money paid to doctors - STAT

None of which addresses what I said.

 

[Shawnee_b]

The right to an attorney is in the Constitution. The right to a doctor isn't. The right to a doctor is simply something that the "Greatest Christian Nation" in the world should provide. After all Communist Cuba is even able to do that.

Heck what is odd is the "Greatest Christian Nation" in the world even tried to stop that from happening. Makes no sense to me.

Not with red flag. No right to an attorney, no due process (buy your own atty, stick your due process where govt wants it to go). WTF happened to our constitution,

 

[BS Filter]

100% of veterans had health care under the VA, and it sucked. Is that what you envision for the entire country? because thats what we would have under medicare for all, or any other of the stupid democrat ideas.

Under Medicare for all we would have Medicare for all which is a very popular program.

basic medicare pays 80% of your medical bills, YOU are on the hook for 20% unless you BUY a medicare supplement or sign up for a medicare advantage plan through an insurance company.

AND, those currently on medicare paid for it out of every paycheck while working------------the paid in advance. ITS NOT FREE AND IT WON'T BE FREE IF IT APPLIES TO EVERYONE. Your taxes will go up as will mine and everyone else's

Would you give a tax credit for the amounts already paid in via payroll deductions?

You libs never think anything through----------just jump up and down screaming "its free, its free"

This has all been covered over and over but that matters none to you. You yell "It's free" because it's the only bogus argument you feel that will work to get people to vote against their better interests.

It's odd that we never ask how we will pay for war at that. I pay a lot for insurance now. Directly or through taxes, it's six of one, half dozen of another but unlike you , I am willing to fund the things I support.

We pay for DEFENSE because it's a Constitutional requirement. Taxpayer funded health insurance isn't a Constitutional requirement. Idiot.

We are 23 trillion in debt. We are not paying for war.

And you believe that national government run healthcare wont add trillions more?

 

[airplanemechanic]

Funny how US LAW dictates you are entitled, have a RIGHT to the service of an attorney...when you are accused of a crime. In fact if you cant afford one the govt literally says “one will be provided to you” free of charge. Wow. Thats pretty amazing.

But get sick? OOOOOHHHH NO....now you don’t have the right to someones service.

I get it now. I can CHOOSE to commit a crime, then im entitled to someones service. But I DONT choose to get sick, but when I do, Im no longer entitled to medical services.

And you wonder why PRESIDENT BERNIE SANDERS is going to happen? This is why. And its past due.

What a horseshit OP. No one in the USA is denied medical care. NO ONE. Even those here illegally. But yes, if you get it free it may not be as convenient as if you were paying for it. tough shit.

Top 10 Reasons People Go Bankrupt | HuffPost

Nobody should have to file for bankruptcy because they get sick.

Wouldn't need to if they purchased health insurance. I pay almost 200 a month. It's not fun, but if I get "sick" I don't lose my house.

 

[pknopp]

The right to an attorney is in the Constitution. The right to a doctor isn't. The right to a doctor is simply something that the "Greatest Christian Nation" in the world should provide. After all Communist Cuba is even able to do that.

Heck what is odd is the "Greatest Christian Nation" in the world even tried to stop that from happening. Makes no sense to me.

Not with red flag. No right to an attorney, no due process (buy your own atty, stick your due process where govt wants it to go). WTF happened to our constitution,

I don't support that. Trump does.

Trump backs 'red flag' gun laws. What do they actually do? - CNNPolitics

 

[pknopp]

Under Medicare for all we would have Medicare for all which is a very popular program.

basic medicare pays 80% of your medical bills, YOU are on the hook for 20% unless you BUY a medicare supplement or sign up for a medicare advantage plan through an insurance company.

AND, those currently on medicare paid for it out of every paycheck while working------------the paid in advance. ITS NOT FREE AND IT WON'T BE FREE IF IT APPLIES TO EVERYONE. Your taxes will go up as will mine and everyone else's

Would you give a tax credit for the amounts already paid in via payroll deductions?

You libs never think anything through----------just jump up and down screaming "its free, its free"

This has all been covered over and over but that matters none to you. You yell "It's free" because it's the only bogus argument you feel that will work to get people to vote against their better interests.

It's odd that we never ask how we will pay for war at that. I pay a lot for insurance now. Directly or through taxes, it's six of one, half dozen of another but unlike you , I am willing to fund the things I support.

We pay for DEFENSE because it's a Constitutional requirement. Taxpayer funded health insurance isn't a Constitutional requirement. Idiot.

We are 23 trillion in debt. We are not paying for war.

And you believe that national government run healthcare wont add trillions more?

Other countries do it for far less money than we do.

 

[pknopp]

Funny how US LAW dictates you are entitled, have a RIGHT to the service of an attorney...when you are accused of a crime. In fact if you cant afford one the govt literally says “one will be provided to you” free of charge. Wow. Thats pretty amazing.

But get sick? OOOOOHHHH NO....now you don’t have the right to someones service.

I get it now. I can CHOOSE to commit a crime, then im entitled to someones service. But I DONT choose to get sick, but when I do, Im no longer entitled to medical services.

And you wonder why PRESIDENT BERNIE SANDERS is going to happen? This is why. And its past due.

What a horseshit OP. No one in the USA is denied medical care. NO ONE. Even those here illegally. But yes, if you get it free it may not be as convenient as if you were paying for it. tough shit.

Top 10 Reasons People Go Bankrupt | HuffPost

Nobody should have to file for bankruptcy because they get sick.

Wouldn't need to if they purchased health insurance. I pay almost 200 a month. It's not fun, but if I get "sick" I don't lose my house.

You have a link to that policy?

 

[airplanemechanic]

Funny how US LAW dictates you are entitled, have a RIGHT to the service of an attorney...when you are accused of a crime. In fact if you cant afford one the govt literally says “one will be provided to you” free of charge. Wow. Thats pretty amazing.

But get sick? OOOOOHHHH NO....now you don’t have the right to someones service.

I get it now. I can CHOOSE to commit a crime, then im entitled to someones service. But I DONT choose to get sick, but when I do, Im no longer entitled to medical services.

And you wonder why PRESIDENT BERNIE SANDERS is going to happen? This is why. And its past due.

What a horseshit OP. No one in the USA is denied medical care. NO ONE. Even those here illegally. But yes, if you get it free it may not be as convenient as if you were paying for it. tough shit.

Top 10 Reasons People Go Bankrupt | HuffPost

Nobody should have to file for bankruptcy because they get sick.

Wouldn't need to if they purchased health insurance. I pay almost 200 a month. It's not fun, but if I get "sick" I don't lose my house.

You have a link to that policy?

I don't have a link to any policy. WTF are you talking about? How do you link to a policy? It's health insurance. I have proof of what I pay every month but what would that accomplish? Proving I'm telling the truth?

 

[pknopp]

Funny how US LAW dictates you are entitled, have a RIGHT to the service of an attorney...when you are accused of a crime. In fact if you cant afford one the govt literally says “one will be provided to you” free of charge. Wow. Thats pretty amazing.

But get sick? OOOOOHHHH NO....now you don’t have the right to someones service.

I get it now. I can CHOOSE to commit a crime, then im entitled to someones service. But I DONT choose to get sick, but when I do, Im no longer entitled to medical services.

And you wonder why PRESIDENT BERNIE SANDERS is going to happen? This is why. And its past due.

What a horseshit OP. No one in the USA is denied medical care. NO ONE. Even those here illegally. But yes, if you get it free it may not be as convenient as if you were paying for it. tough shit.

Top 10 Reasons People Go Bankrupt | HuffPost

Nobody should have to file for bankruptcy because they get sick.

Wouldn't need to if they purchased health insurance. I pay almost 200 a month. It's not fun, but if I get "sick" I don't lose my house.

You have a link to that policy?

I don't have a link to any policy. WTF are you talking about? How do you link to a policy? It's health insurance. I have proof of what I pay every month but what would that accomplish? Proving I'm telling the truth?

I know of no one that can get insurance that isn't subsidized by either their company or the government that is that cheap.

 

[airplanemechanic]

What a horseshit OP. No one in the USA is denied medical care. NO ONE. Even those here illegally. But yes, if you get it free it may not be as convenient as if you were paying for it. tough shit.

Top 10 Reasons People Go Bankrupt | HuffPost

Nobody should have to file for bankruptcy because they get sick.

Wouldn't need to if they purchased health insurance. I pay almost 200 a month. It's not fun, but if I get "sick" I don't lose my house.

You have a link to that policy?

I don't have a link to any policy. WTF are you talking about? How do you link to a policy? It's health insurance. I have proof of what I pay every month but what would that accomplish? Proving I'm telling the truth?

I know of no one that can get insurance that isn't subsidized by either their company or the government that is that cheap.

Well now you have. I just so happen to have a credit card bill in my truck with me. I am not subsidized in any way, shape or form. The two dates you see are "activity date" and "post date" They aren't showing I had health insurance for 2 days. It got charged on the 19th and posted on the 21st.

 

[pknopp]

Top 10 Reasons People Go Bankrupt | HuffPost

Nobody should have to file for bankruptcy because they get sick.

Wouldn't need to if they purchased health insurance. I pay almost 200 a month. It's not fun, but if I get "sick" I don't lose my house.

You have a link to that policy?

I don't have a link to any policy. WTF are you talking about? How do you link to a policy? It's health insurance. I have proof of what I pay every month but what would that accomplish? Proving I'm telling the truth?

I know of no one that can get insurance that isn't subsidized by either their company or the government that is that cheap.

Well now you have. I just so happen to have a credit card bill in my truck with me. I am no subsidized in any way, shape or form.

Well that is really cheap if it covers anything. Good for you.

Edit: While limited info.......

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[airplanemechanic]

Wouldn't need to if they purchased health insurance. I pay almost 200 a month. It's not fun, but if I get "sick" I don't lose my house.

You have a link to that policy?

I don't have a link to any policy. WTF are you talking about? How do you link to a policy? It's health insurance. I have proof of what I pay every month but what would that accomplish? Proving I'm telling the truth?

I know of no one that can get insurance that isn't subsidized by either their company or the government that is that cheap.

Well now you have. I just so happen to have a credit card bill in my truck with me. I am no subsidized in any way, shape or form.

Well that is really cheap if it covers anything. Good for you.

Its great coverage actually. Very little out of pocket and low deductibles.

 

[jc456]

name one, show me how they pay for it. BTW, we have universal healthcare for all today. you just don't like the way it is privately run.

No we don't. There are still millions without health care.

Horseshit! No one in the USA is being denied medical care today. Not having insurance does not mean you can't bet medical care. Ever hear of medicaid? the ignorance displayed by liberals on this subject is amazing.

If you get cancer you can quit your job, go on welfare and medicaid after you exhaust everything you have worked for. If you see that as a positive, well.................

If that is the extreme you have to go to to get treatment, you are likely terminal. You're gonna lose everything you worked for anyway. Just saying.

.

Cancer treatment is extremely expensive terminal or not. As is treatment for many other things which aren't terminal.

Make it cheaper, why’s that a health insurance issue? Where’s the cure?

 

[airplanemechanic]

Wouldn't need to if they purchased health insurance. I pay almost 200 a month. It's not fun, but if I get "sick" I don't lose my house.

You have a link to that policy?

I don't have a link to any policy. WTF are you talking about? How do you link to a policy? It's health insurance. I have proof of what I pay every month but what would that accomplish? Proving I'm telling the truth?

I know of no one that can get insurance that isn't subsidized by either their company or the government that is that cheap.

Well now you have. I just so happen to have a credit card bill in my truck with me. I am no subsidized in any way, shape or form.

Well that is really cheap if it covers anything. Good for you.

Edit: While limited info.......

Health Shield | Reviews | Better Business Bureau® Profile

Blue cross review:

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[Redfish]

basic medicare pays 80% of your medical bills, YOU are on the hook for 20% unless you BUY a medicare supplement or sign up for a medicare advantage plan through an insurance company.

AND, those currently on medicare paid for it out of every paycheck while working------------the paid in advance. ITS NOT FREE AND IT WON'T BE FREE IF IT APPLIES TO EVERYONE. Your taxes will go up as will mine and everyone else's

Would you give a tax credit for the amounts already paid in via payroll deductions?

You libs never think anything through----------just jump up and down screaming "its free, its free"

This has all been covered over and over but that matters none to you. You yell "It's free" because it's the only bogus argument you feel that will work to get people to vote against their better interests.

It's odd that we never ask how we will pay for war at that. I pay a lot for insurance now. Directly or through taxes, it's six of one, half dozen of another but unlike you , I am willing to fund the things I support.

So you think the government can manage healthcare more efficiently than private for-profit companies? Tell us which government agency operates efficiently, and give us examples of the efficiency.

How about the VA? was that well run and did it deliver a quality product to veterans? How about the food stamp program and welfare? Are they run efficiently and with no waste? and the one you dems hate the most, the pentagon. is it run efficiently?

This gets real old. You ask a question, I answer it but then in every second post by you, you ask it again.

People support Medicare. They like the program. Go ahead and try and end it.

I agree, medicare is a good program and the people on it like it-----------------But, what you refuse to comprehend is that they paid in advance for it their entire working lives. There isn't enough money being collected by the government to put 330,000,000 people on medicare without a huge tax increase on everyone-------even you.

We already spend a huge amount.

Yes, and you libs want us to spend much much more for less care