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I can guarantee that a thorough search of your body would find yersinia pestis, the bacteria that caused the Black Death plague of the Middle Ages. And despite the vaccinations you received as a child, It would also find examples of the variola virus that causes smallpox, the poliovirus, morbilivirus that causes measles, paramyxovirus that causes mumps, hepatitis A and B and so forth. A thorough search would find those organisms and more in my body and those of anyone else we wished to search. Their numbers would be limited, due to the efficiency of our immune systems, enhanced by the vaccines we have received and - this is the important part - in the vast majority of individuals we would not be found to be AFFECTED by the presence of these organisms. We would be completely asymptomatic. We would not be ill. THAT is the situation with 99,997 out of 100,000 recipients of Pfizer and Moderna vaccines against the COV-SARS2, the virus that causes COVID-19.You are lying like hell!
The CDC director herself says it is irrelevant if you are vaccinated or not Delta variant can infect ANYONE equally.
CDC Director Makes Case Vaccination Passports are Futile, Vaccines Do Not Prevent COVID Infection or Delta Variant Transmission
The lie flitting around this exchange is that our current vaccines are ineffective against the Delta variant. They ARE effective. But the Delta variant is a potent beast and it does differ slightly from the original virus for which our current vaccines were designed. And even in the bodies of the roughly half of this country that have been vaccinated, it is able to reproduce to an extent sufficient to be sloughed - to be expelled by coughs and sneezes and forceful breathing and kissing and licking and sex and any other activity that exchanges or exposes us to the bodily fluids of others. If I am vaccinated and then thoroughly exposed to someone with a full-on COVID-19 infection - say a member of my household who refused the vaccine - I could carry enough particles in my body that, though completely asymptomatic, I could infect someone else who has not been vaccinated. I realize that this differs from much of our common historical experience with vaccines but there are valid and sensible reasons for this situation.
Virtually 100% of the population is vaccinated against a number of infamous childhood diseases. We do not have 50% or more of the population unvaccinated against polio, measles or mumps in the midst of an ongoing pandemic of those diseases including the rise of multiple variant strains. If we did, we would also see asymptomatic, vaccinated individuals able to spread disease to the unvaccinated.
Your selective acceptance of facts has led you to a faulty conclusion. You emphasize this transmissibility but ignore the lack of symptoms - illness - in the vaccinated. That such a high percentage of COVID-19 hospital admissions and even higher percentage of COVID-19 fatalities are UNvaccinated individuals - percentages that do NOT reflect actual vaccination rates among the general population - is an irrefutable piece of evidence that the vaccines are effective, so far, against all strains extant. And, as hundreds of millions of vaccinations have been delivered to individuals around the world with virtually microscopic numbers of adverse reactions and breakthrough infections requiring ICU treatment taking place, refusing the shots, putting your loved ones and the general public at risk, providing a breeding ground for even newer and more deadly variants, is simply irresponsible. I suppose I should apologize for my hostility at those who, in my view, are exercising flawed and irresponsible reasoning. It is not unreasonable to be concerned about the vaccine's side effects. It is not unreasonable to be concerned about the vaccine's efficaciousness. It is, however, unreasonable to apply faulty reasoning to the evidence available to us. It is unreasonable to fail to consider the risk in which your decisions can place others. I urge all who have not gotten the vaccine to do so as quickly as possible. Lives matter.