About Bombing Boats

[g5000]

If you say so. Dying is not a great way to make a living.

But even if you are correct, if the drug lords keep getting their boats blowed up, they will stop using them long before they run out of desperate poor people to crew them.

As I said, the drug lords are capitalists. Whenever the US tries a new tactic, the capitalists always find a work around. They adapt, improvise, and overcome. That's the miracle of capitalism.

If the loss of boats become prohibitive, they will find other ways to smuggle in the drugs.

They simply cannot be stopped.

You'd think this would finally sink in after DECADES of doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result.

But NoooOOOOOoooo...

 

[g5000]

Murder requires a human victim. These creatures aren’t human beings. They’re monsters. They’re pests they deserve to be wiped out.

Addicts are God's children just like you. You probably have an addict in your own family.

You are very sick, calling for their murder.

 

[Mack The Finger]

Link.

They didn't force them to use it...they forced them to pay for it.

 

[g5000]

/---/ The cartels thank you for your support.

Comprehension fail.

They are actually grateful our politicians are too stupid to cut off the demand.

So they thank YOU for your support.

 

[leftwinger]

I admit. I like drugs, done drugs since JHS. But at some point you have to drag your butt into work and produce and fit in with a building full of all sorts of American humans. You cant do it on LSD or COKE or bloody arms. Stoned out slow on downers or pain pills making mistakes. You need to time it, taking drugs on your time not the big boss man who sees you walking around smelling like a brewery or a Cheech and Chong cars seat cover.

You get 401K or wives and kids it gets harder. You are glad a President is trying to delay financial collapse (or orevent it). Thanks DJT!!!

Thank you OhPleaseJustQuit I consider this my post of a lifetime and you are the only one to stop by. All my gratitude to you.

 

[g5000]

Residential treatment, that's hilarious.

What's hilarious about it? It works.

I'm not talking about in-patient treatment. That rarely works.

I'm talking about residential treatment. That has a far higher success rate.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Thank you OhPleaseJustQuit I consider this my post of a lifetime and you are the only one to stop by. All my gratitude to you.

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Damn good post!

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[g5000]

Actually doing a lot of different things, but being serious about it.

You think we haven't been serious about it?

Wow. You are speaking from ignorance. You are way over your head. You have no idea of the effort that has been put into the War on Drugs.

MAGAs seem to bleev Trump invented the idea of blowing things up.

 

[g5000]

we aren't doing the same thing any more dumbass. or have we ever directly attacked the suppliers before?

Indeed we have!

How is it you are all so bafflingly ignorant of the efforts of the US behind the war on drugs?

The military has been engaged in active warfare against the cartels for decades. You are a retired Gunny? How do you not know this?

 

[g5000]

Now the time to address the war as a real war with real bombs, bullets and dead bodies is here.

You are amazingly ignorant. We have been dropping bombs and shooting bullets all over the planet against the drug lords for decades.

Wow.

I am growing more and more amazed at how ignorant MAGAs are about this.

No wonder you bleev Trump invented this! He blows up one boat and you are blown away by his initiative.

 

[Rambunctious]

Not one capitalist selling recreational substances to Americans on the black market ever held a gun to their customers heads and forced them to use.

The rhetorical War on American Citizens who use non government approved recreational substances is the root cause of most of the overdose deaths.

They cut their drugs with things like Fentanyl for a higher profit and people are dying... have some concern for people for Christs sake...

 

[g5000]

When I read about these boats being bombed, I think to myself "how many lives were saved
in the US without those drugs hitting our shores?"

Pam Bondi will probably say 562 million American lives were saved.

I'm not sure why the extreme left on this board would rather protect the gangbangers/cartels
that's bringing in the poison to distribute into our society, than protecting our society.

No one is saying we should protect the cartels, moron.

Serious comprehension fail.

The answer is to take away the demand.

Let me dumb this down as much as possible for you.

If Americans stopped drinking coffee, Starbucks would go out of business.

Get it now?

 

[g5000]

Wipe them out, wipe out their replacements and their replacements and theirs, no matter how many layers you have to peel off. Treatment should be a reward. Now, forced or sentenced treatment is something to be tolerated, gotten through, and back to using as soon as possible. You want to stop drug addiction, get them high and slam them with narcan, over and over and over, until the thought of using brings pain.

Wow. Such ignorance. Incredible.

I'm learning a lot from you fools. I'm learning why America will never put a serious effort into preventiong and treating addiction and reducing the demand which is keeping the cartels alive.

Everything is a nail to your ignorant fools.

Also, you have no clue what Narcan does. It does not cause pain. It simply blocks the opioid receptors in the brain so the addict loses their high.

Narcan is completely ineffective again benzos, cocaine, meth, and other drugs.

You are way outside your wheelhouse, son.

 

[g5000]

Speaking of Narcan, ask any paramedic about this. They will tell you they have come up on addicts who are in the process of overdosing, and when they jab the dying addict with Narcan, the addict comes to and screams at them for ruining their high.

I shit you not.

Of course, since cruelty is the point, I know for a fact that as the MAGAs read that, their one and only thought was, "Then let them die."

 

[g5000]

g5000

You're right about much there, but in reality the lesson we learned from the Volstead Act, the 18th Amendment and its repeal 14 years later is that prohibition does not work. Not only that, but it causes all sorts of social pathologies, one of the most significant being the corruption of the police profession and the legal system in general.

The drug cartels exist ONLY because of the drug prohibition laws. Like the Volstead Act, they should be repealed.

As I said to Muhammed in another topic earlier today, I am becoming more and more amenable to this idea.

The prohibition of alcohol gave organized crime a huge boost, and it did nothing to reduce alcohol addiction.

The prohibition of drugs has created these drug cartels.

 

[Eman623]

As I said, the drug lords are capitalists. Whenever the US tries a new tactic, the capitalists always find a work around. The adapt, improvise, and overcome. That's the miracle of capitalism.

If the loss of boats become prohibitive, they will find other ways to smuggle in the drugs.

They simply cannot be stopped.

You'd think this would finally sink in after DECADES of doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result.

But NoooOOOOOoooo...

I agree we cannot stop 100% of the traffic. No one is suggesting we can.

But we can stop a big part of it, probably most. And make transporting the stuff that does get through more prohibitively expensive in money and lives.

 

[g5000]

About Bombing Boats...

As in all things Trump and other totalitarians, everything looks like a nail which must be hammered. Due process is not the strong suit of cowardly wannabe tough guys.

Explain your statement and how it applied to your post.

I explained it in the third sentence of my OP.

 

[Eman623]

You think we haven't been serious about it?

Wow. You are speaking from ignorance. You are way over your head. You have no idea of the effort that has been put into the War on Drugs.

MAGAs seem to bleev Trump invented the idea of blowing things up.

I always know I've won the argument when the other guy stops arguing the topic and starts making personal comments about me.

Thanks for the discussion. Now go **** off and have a great day.

 

[BlindBoo]

They cut their drugs with things like Fentanyl for a higher profit and people are dying... have some concern for people for Christs sake...

Actually the problem is they use fentanyl as a substitute for look products they sell as other common opioid pharmaceuticals. Since Fentanyl is so powerful the black market labs can easily get the dosage wrong. Fentanyl masquerading as time released Vicodin is like kids playing Russian Roulette. Legalizing and regulating would decrease the number of OD's drastically and put most of the smugglers out of business.

 

[g5000]

Nonsense. For every drug offender in prison there are 50 in court ordered treatment programs, diversion, probation, halfway houses, community service programs or any one of a hundred treatment facilities.

Link to your 50-to-1 claim? You are going to find the opposite is true. There are more substance abusers in prison than in treatment. The government is willing to spend a lot more on punishment than treatment.

Because of people like you.