About Bombing Boats

This is why the third sentence in my OP was, "The arguing back and forth over the legality of bombing a boat allegedly carrying drugs is entirely missing the actual issue."

You still made the statement, doesn't matter what came after. Words have meanings, idiot.

As in all things Trump and other totalitarians, everything looks like a nail which must be hammered. Due process is not the strong suit of cowardly wannabe tough guys.
 
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You're right about much there, but in reality the lesson we learned from the Volstead Act, the 18th Amendment and its repeal 14 years later is that prohibition does not work. Not only that, but it causes all sorts of social pathologies, one of the most significant being the corruption of the police profession and the legal system in general.

The drug cartels exist ONLY because of the drug prohibition laws. Like the Volstead Act, they should be repealed.

There is no lawful authority in the founding document for the government to tell the citizens what they may or may not ingest.

The CIA loves it however. They've been in the dope business for many long decades. I personally witnessed it in Vietnam all those years ago. The Bureau of Prisons also likes it, as it has caused the US to have the highest per capita rate of imprisonment in the world, going back to the 60s or 70s.
Nonsense. For every drug offender in prison there are 50 in court ordered treatment programs, diversion, probation, halfway houses, community service programs or any one of a hundred treatment facilities. Treatment works, so rarely that it should be disregarded as a possibility.

Warehouse addicts, give them all the drugs they can handle and let them die happy.
 
In MAGA world, drug lords are a nail, desperate poor people are a nail, drug addicts are a nail.

Kill 'em all.

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How are you any different? Anything 'MAGA' is a nail to you, hypocrite. You spend all day, every day on here bitching about 'MAGA'. You have a diseased and broken mind. 🤡
 
When I read about these boats being bombed, I think to myself "how many lives were saved
in the US without those drugs hitting our shores?"

I'm not sure why the extreme left on this board would rather protect the gangbangers/cartels
that's bringing in the poison to distribute into our society, than protecting our society.
I just can't comprehend that, other than it hasn't hit close to home for them yet.
It's hit close to home for me when a 4 year old 3rd cousin in Bellingham Wa. died of a
fentanyl overdose that she found on 'daddy's' table. Look it up, Michael Doan, Bellingham Wa.
He's doing hard time now, and his daughter is dead.


They will literally support the opposite of whatever Trump does, sick and diseased minds.
 
Nonsense. For every drug offender in prison there are 50 in court ordered treatment programs, diversion, probation, halfway houses, community service programs or any one of a hundred treatment facilities. Treatment works, so rarely that it should be disregarded as a possibility.

Warehouse addicts, give them all the drugs they can handle and let them die happy.
What you see as nonsense is historical fact.

During enforcement of the Volstead Act, all sorts of crime rates increased significantly. Months after the repeal of that Act, crimes rates became much lower. Have you tried critical thinking?
 
As in all things Trump and other totalitarians, everything looks like a nail which must be hammered. Due process is not the strong suit of cowardly wannabe tough guys.

The arguing back and forth over the legality of bombing a boat allegedly carrying drugs is entirely missing the actual issue.

The bombing of the boat was for the consumption of the MAGAs. "Oooooooh, lookee the fi-uh-wuhks! Preeeeetteeee! Nyuk-nyuk-nyuk!"


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Here's the thing.

A drug lord is not going to say to himself, "Gosh darn it. Trump got me. I guess I'll give up the drug business and start selling Amway products."

You think a drug lord gives a damn about some dead mules? Seriously? That boat was shrinkage!

The War On Drugs has been a colossal failure because American politicians do not understand how capitalism works.

Drug lords are the epitome of capitalists. Hell, they probably use Trump crypto to launder their money.

It's all about supply and demand.

After decades of "The War On Drugs", you'd think our leaders would have figured out by now we cannot choke off the supply side of the equation.

The problem is not foreign. The problem is not Venezuelan drug boats.

The problem is domestic. The problem is the demand side.

Instead of wasting hundreds and hundreds of billions more on bombs and bullets, we need to invest in prevention and treatment.

Imagine how many residential treatment centers could have been built with the hundreds and hundreds of billions we have completely wasted on interdiction.

Sadly, the MAGA mindset is so far gone down the totalitarian path, a MAGA propagandist felt comfortable enough to say we should just execute our drug addicts.

Imagine instead of stigmatizing, and contemplating the death penalty for, the afflicted, we helped them kick their curse and put the drug lords out of business that way.

Imagine what would happen to the crime rate if we helped addicts get clean. Imagine how clean our streets would be.

Not everything is a fricking nail. They are God's children.

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Nobody cares PeeeKnas breath. Maybe they run out of mules and boats you skunk striped old barn weasel.
 
Still here, dipshit. Do you have anything to contribute, or just sniping from the sidelines as always?


I know. Maybe they were hauling relief supplies to Miami for flood victims? Get off the boards dopeyd up you old red commee.
 
What you see as nonsense is historical fact.

During enforcement of the Volstead Act, all sorts of crime rates increased significantly. Months after the repeal of that Act, crimes rates became much lower. Have you tried critical thinking?
Fighting crime by legalizing and protecting criminal activity will not work. It wasn't the end of prohibition that reduced crime, it was serious and intense efforts by law enforcement, notably the FBI. It was police that were none too picky about how criminals were treated or whether they lived or died.

You want to clean up a drug infested neighborhood? Send in linebacker size police with fully automatic weapons, rubber hoses and billy clubs. Because THAT is what reduced crime. Bodies found in alleys reduced crime.

Prohibition does not work. So, where are the treatment programs for serial killers?
 
I admit. I like drugs, done drugs since JHS. But at some point you have to drag your butt into work and produce and fit in with a building full of all sorts of American humans. You cant do it on LSD or COKE or bloody arms. Stoned out slow on downers or pain pills making mistakes. You need to time it, taking drugs on your time not the big boss man who sees you walking around smelling like a brewery or a Cheech and Chong cars seat cover.

You get 401K or wives and kids it gets harder. You are glad a President is trying to delay financial collapse (or orevent it). Thanks DJT!!!
 
As in all things Trump and other totalitarians, everything looks like a nail which must be hammered. Due process is not the strong suit of cowardly wannabe tough guys.

The arguing back and forth over the legality of bombing a boat allegedly carrying drugs is entirely missing the actual issue.

The bombing of the boat was for the consumption of the MAGAs. "Oooooooh, lookee the fi-uh-wuhks! Preeeeetteeee! Nyuk-nyuk-nyuk!"


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Here's the thing.

A drug lord is not going to say to himself, "Gosh darn it. Trump got me. I guess I'll give up the drug business and start selling Amway products."

You think a drug lord gives a damn about some dead mules? Seriously? That boat was shrinkage!

The War On Drugs has been a colossal failure because American politicians do not understand how capitalism works.

Drug lords are the epitome of capitalists. Hell, they probably use Trump crypto to launder their money.

It's all about supply and demand.

After decades of "The War On Drugs", you'd think our leaders would have figured out by now we cannot choke off the supply side of the equation.

The problem is not foreign. The problem is not Venezuelan drug boats.

The problem is domestic. The problem is the demand side.

Instead of wasting hundreds and hundreds of billions more on bombs and bullets, we need to invest in prevention and treatment.

Imagine how many residential treatment centers could have been built with the hundreds and hundreds of billions we have completely wasted on interdiction.

Sadly, the MAGA mindset is so far gone down the totalitarian path, a MAGA propagandist felt comfortable enough to say we should just execute our drug addicts.

Imagine instead of stigmatizing, and contemplating the death penalty for, the afflicted, we helped them kick their curse and put the drug lords out of business that way.

Imagine what would happen to the crime rate if we helped addicts get clean. Imagine how clean our streets would be.

Not everything is a fricking nail. They are God's children.

.Democrats have become the party for criminals
 
As in all things Trump and other totalitarians, everything looks like a nail which must be hammered. Due process is not the strong suit of cowardly wannabe tough guys.

The arguing back and forth over the legality of bombing a boat allegedly carrying drugs is entirely missing the actual issue.

The bombing of the boat was for the consumption of the MAGAs. "Oooooooh, lookee the fi-uh-wuhks! Preeeeetteeee! Nyuk-nyuk-nyuk!"


.
Here's the thing.

A drug lord is not going to say to himself, "Gosh darn it. Trump got me. I guess I'll give up the drug business and start selling Amway products."

You think a drug lord gives a damn about some dead mules? Seriously? That boat was shrinkage!

The War On Drugs has been a colossal failure because American politicians do not understand how capitalism works.

Drug lords are the epitome of capitalists. Hell, they probably use Trump crypto to launder their money.

It's all about supply and demand.

After decades of "The War On Drugs", you'd think our leaders would have figured out by now we cannot choke off the supply side of the equation.

The problem is not foreign. The problem is not Venezuelan drug boats.

The problem is domestic. The problem is the demand side.

Instead of wasting hundreds and hundreds of billions more on bombs and bullets, we need to invest in prevention and treatment.

Imagine how many residential treatment centers could have been built with the hundreds and hundreds of billions we have completely wasted on interdiction.

Sadly, the MAGA mindset is so far gone down the totalitarian path, a MAGA propagandist felt comfortable enough to say we should just execute our drug addicts.

Imagine instead of stigmatizing, and contemplating the death penalty for, the afflicted, we helped them kick their curse and put the drug lords out of business that way.

Imagine what would happen to the crime rate if we helped addicts get clean. Imagine how clean our streets would be.

Not everything is a fricking nail. They are God's children.

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Perhaps it is time to surgically strike Drug kingpin and cartels compounds also.
 
Fighting crime by legalizing and protecting criminal activity will not work. It wasn't the end of prohibition that reduced crime, it was serious and intense efforts by law enforcement, notably the FBI. It was police that were none too picky about how criminals were treated or whether they lived or died.

You want to clean up a drug infested neighborhood? Send in linebacker size police with fully automatic weapons, rubber hoses and billy clubs. Because THAT is what reduced crime. Bodies found in alleys reduced crime.

Prohibition does not work. So, where are the treatment programs for serial killers?
Your grasp of how things work is very poor. Criminal activity can be created by poor and illegitimate legislation, but that's too sophisticated for you to grasp. You are unable to understand how economics work even though many books have been written about that.

You are a fine example of how and why we have the government we deserve in this country.
 
Last 59 years. Mexico knows nothing about it? They see nothing. They are not responsible. DEMWITTED loons they nod in solidarity. Dumb dumb much?
 
Your grasp of how things work is very poor. Criminal activity can be created by poor and illegitimate legislation, but that's too sophisticated for you to grasp. You are unable to understand how economics work even though many books have been written about that.

You are a fine example of how and why we have the government we deserve in this country.
You are a fine example of a drug user justifying the experience. China lost every opium war fought against Britian. They "won" by going into the opium dens and just slaughtering everyone.

We will never overcome drug addiction by accommodating the use.
 
Perhaps it is time to surgically strike Drug kingpin and cartels compounds also.
Yeah, after they got rid of Carlos Lehderer that's what we were told. Then after taking Pablo Escobar we were told the same old story.

The only government to get rid of drug trafficking ever was the Taliban government. Colin Powell actually hand carried a check to them in April 2001 for their great job. They achieved that by strict enforcement of Sharia Law. 8 months later we invaded Afghanistan, and less than a year after that the country under CIA control was back at Number 1 for opium production.

Yeah baby, but Donald don't give a damn about all those facts, and he's got a captive audience, pun intended.
 
15th post
300,000 Americans die every year from overdoses... its a war and Trump is right to fight back... do you want senile Joe back?... give me a break...
Not one capitalist selling recreational substances to Americans on the black market ever held a gun to their customers heads and forced them to use.

The rhetorical War on American Citizens who use non government approved recreational substances is the root cause of most of the overdose deaths.
 
The War On Drugs is a failure.
Not if the objective was to usher in an unconstitutional military/police/surveillance state.

Stopping people from doing recreational drugs? Hahahaha, not likely! But druggies are the perfect demon for the New Fascism, and an easy target. But then, again look at whats happening to Rodrigo Duterte. A rabid righty who received much praise from certain Trumpybear circles.
 
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