Black Defendants’ “Stand Your Ground” Claims Against White Assailants Are Rarely Accepted

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Basically, we don't get to stand our ground if attacked by whites.

Karmelo Anthony and the Futility of Claiming Self-Defense While Black​

Black defendants’ “Stand Your Ground” claims against white assailants are denied more than 99 percent of the time.​

Last spring, during a track meet at a Texas high school, 17-year-old Karmelo Anthony stabbed and killed Austin Metcalf, a white student and fellow athlete from a rival school, during an argument. Whether or not Anthony killed Metcalf wasn’t up for discussion: Anthony had admitted his guilt, and there were several witnesses present during the altercation.

The question at the center of Anthony’s trial was whether or not the Black teen was acting in self-defense. Texas is one of 31 states with “Stand Your Ground” laws that allow people to use reasonable force, including deadly force, against an assailant under certain circumstances.

Similar laws have been invoked in several high-profile cases across the country, including the 2012 killing of Trayvon Martin, where George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch captain, was acquitted after claiming he shot the 17-year-old in self-defense. Zimmerman outweighed Martin and initiated the encounter; Metcalf was also larger than Anthony and the first to engage. But more than a decade later, Anthony would not be given that same judicial grace.

On Tuesday, a jury convicted Anthony, now 19 years old, of murder. He was sentenced to 35 years in prison. There wasn’t a single Black person on the jury—every Black potential juror was struck before trial. The case has reignited a decades-long conversation, both on and off social media: In the US criminal justice system, who do “Stand Your Ground” laws protect?

 
Basically, we don't get to stand our ground if attacked by whites.

Karmelo Anthony and the Futility of Claiming Self-Defense While Black​

Black defendants’ “Stand Your Ground” claims against white assailants are denied more than 99 percent of the time.​

Last spring, during a track meet at a Texas high school, 17-year-old Karmelo Anthony stabbed and killed Austin Metcalf, a white student and fellow athlete from a rival school, during an argument. Whether or not Anthony killed Metcalf wasn’t up for discussion: Anthony had admitted his guilt, and there were several witnesses present during the altercation.

The question at the center of Anthony’s trial was whether or not the Black teen was acting in self-defense. Texas is one of 31 states with “Stand Your Ground” laws that allow people to use reasonable force, including deadly force, against an assailant under certain circumstances.

Similar laws have been invoked in several high-profile cases across the country, including the 2012 killing of Trayvon Martin, where George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch captain, was acquitted after claiming he shot the 17-year-old in self-defense. Zimmerman outweighed Martin and initiated the encounter; Metcalf was also larger than Anthony and the first to engage. But more than a decade later, Anthony would not be given that same judicial grace.

On Tuesday, a jury convicted Anthony, now 19 years old, of murder. He was sentenced to 35 years in prison. There wasn’t a single Black person on the jury—every Black potential juror was struck before trial. The case has reignited a decades-long conversation, both on and off social media: In the US criminal justice system, who do “Stand Your Ground” laws protect?

Martin could not claim self defense as its a defense to prosecution, and he was dead.

In contrast has Arbury managed to wrestle away the shotgun and then shot those klan *****, he would have had an excellent defense.
 
Basically, we don't get to stand our ground if attacked by whites.

Karmelo Anthony and the Futility of Claiming Self-Defense While Black​

Black defendants’ “Stand Your Ground” claims against white assailants are denied more than 99 percent of the time.​

Last spring, during a track meet at a Texas high school, 17-year-old Karmelo Anthony stabbed and killed Austin Metcalf, a white student and fellow athlete from a rival school, during an argument. Whether or not Anthony killed Metcalf wasn’t up for discussion: Anthony had admitted his guilt, and there were several witnesses present during the altercation.

The question at the center of Anthony’s trial was whether or not the Black teen was acting in self-defense. Texas is one of 31 states with “Stand Your Ground” laws that allow people to use reasonable force, including deadly force, against an assailant under certain circumstances.

Similar laws have been invoked in several high-profile cases across the country, including the 2012 killing of Trayvon Martin, where George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch captain, was acquitted after claiming he shot the 17-year-old in self-defense. Zimmerman outweighed Martin and initiated the encounter; Metcalf was also larger than Anthony and the first to engage. But more than a decade later, Anthony would not be given that same judicial grace.

On Tuesday, a jury convicted Anthony, now 19 years old, of murder. He was sentenced to 35 years in prison. There wasn’t a single Black person on the jury—every Black potential juror was struck before trial. The case has reignited a decades-long conversation, both on and off social media: In the US criminal justice system, who do “Stand Your Ground” laws protect?


Black Defendants’ “Stand Your Ground” Claims Against White Assailants Are Rarely Accepted​


Only because they're lies.
 
Basically, we don't get to stand our ground if attacked by whites.

Karmelo Anthony and the Futility of Claiming Self-Defense While Black​

Black defendants’ “Stand Your Ground” claims against white assailants are denied more than 99 percent of the time.​

Last spring, during a track meet at a Texas high school, 17-year-old Karmelo Anthony stabbed and killed Austin Metcalf, a white student and fellow athlete from a rival school, during an argument. Whether or not Anthony killed Metcalf wasn’t up for discussion: Anthony had admitted his guilt, and there were several witnesses present during the altercation.

The question at the center of Anthony’s trial was whether or not the Black teen was acting in self-defense. Texas is one of 31 states with “Stand Your Ground” laws that allow people to use reasonable force, including deadly force, against an assailant under certain circumstances.

Similar laws have been invoked in several high-profile cases across the country, including the 2012 killing of Trayvon Martin, where George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch captain, was acquitted after claiming he shot the 17-year-old in self-defense. Zimmerman outweighed Martin and initiated the encounter; Metcalf was also larger than Anthony and the first to engage. But more than a decade later, Anthony would not be given that same judicial grace.

On Tuesday, a jury convicted Anthony, now 19 years old, of murder. He was sentenced to 35 years in prison. There wasn’t a single Black person on the jury—every Black potential juror was struck before trial. The case has reignited a decades-long conversation, both on and off social media: In the US criminal justice system, who do “Stand Your Ground” laws protect?

This was murder.

Karmelo did not stand his ground, he stalked and killed. He's a racist predator.
 
Martin could not claim self defense as its a defense to prosecution, and he was dead.

In contrast has Arbury managed to wrestle away the shotgun and then shot those klan *****, he would have had an excellent defense.
Not really funny.

Black defendants’ “Stand Your Ground” claims against white assailants are denied more than 99 percent of the time.​

 
This was murder.

Karmelo did not stand his ground, he stalked and killed. He's a racist predator.


I dont think its that simple. I believe the real truth is somewhere in between. I'm sure Anthony intended to hurt Metcalf badly and it was completely unjustified.... but I dont really see any evidence of him planning from the start to kill someone. There is evidence he was trash talking the other team but IMO, when things escalated he allowed his pride and possibly something else to make him double down. At some point I think he decided to use the knife , it wasnt just a last second thing but I think he was living some gangster fantasy, based on what we saw in his online photos.
 
I dont think its that simple. I believe the real truth is somewhere in between. I'm sure Anthony intended to hurt Metcalf badly and it was completely unjustified.... but I dont really see any evidence of him planning from the start to kill someone. There is evidence he was trash talking the other team but IMO, when things escalated he allowed his pride and possibly something else to make him double down. At some point I think he decided to use the knife , it wasnt just a last second thing but I think he was living some gangster fantasy, based on what we saw in his online photos.
Your racist opinion is inaccurate since Metcalf walked into the tent and initiated the situation. The evidence you are taking but doesn't exist, and Metcalf did not have the authority to tell anyone to leave. Your assumption is a racist assumption that does not meet the facts. Anthony was an honor student with a 3.7 GPA who had never been in trouble. Th reality you racists don't want to face is that it was Metcalf who had the racist fantasy of beating up some black person. You racists lecture us about getting violent over words but here it's fine for a white person e to initiate violence over words.

Then you wonder why you get called a racist.

Drop the white victimhood, you racist pos, Metcalf started a fight, the kid was defending himself. This is going to come out in th appeal.
 
Racists read this, then STFU.

Black defendants’ “Stand Your Ground” claims against white assailants are denied more than 99 percent of the time.

 
Basically, we don't get to stand our ground if attacked by whites.

Karmelo Anthony and the Futility of Claiming Self-Defense While Black​

Black defendants’ “Stand Your Ground” claims against white assailants are denied more than 99 percent of the time.​

Last spring, during a track meet at a Texas high school, 17-year-old Karmelo Anthony stabbed and killed Austin Metcalf, a white student and fellow athlete from a rival school, during an argument. Whether or not Anthony killed Metcalf wasn’t up for discussion: Anthony had admitted his guilt, and there were several witnesses present during the altercation.

The question at the center of Anthony’s trial was whether or not the Black teen was acting in self-defense. Texas is one of 31 states with “Stand Your Ground” laws that allow people to use reasonable force, including deadly force, against an assailant under certain circumstances.

Similar laws have been invoked in several high-profile cases across the country, including the 2012 killing of Trayvon Martin, where George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch captain, was acquitted after claiming he shot the 17-year-old in self-defense. Zimmerman outweighed Martin and initiated the encounter; Metcalf was also larger than Anthony and the first to engage. But more than a decade later, Anthony would not be given that same judicial grace.

On Tuesday, a jury convicted Anthony, now 19 years old, of murder. He was sentenced to 35 years in prison. There wasn’t a single Black person on the jury—every Black potential juror was struck before trial. The case has reignited a decades-long conversation, both on and off social media: In the US criminal justice system, who do “Stand Your Ground” laws protect?


They are Black and therefore automatically guilty.
 
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Basically, we don't get to stand our ground if attacked by whites.

Karmelo Anthony and the Futility of Claiming Self-Defense While Black​

Black defendants’ “Stand Your Ground” claims against white assailants are denied more than 99 percent of the time.​

Last spring, during a track meet at a Texas high school, 17-year-old Karmelo Anthony stabbed and killed Austin Metcalf, a white student and fellow athlete from a rival school, during an argument. Whether or not Anthony killed Metcalf wasn’t up for discussion: Anthony had admitted his guilt, and there were several witnesses present during the altercation.

The question at the center of Anthony’s trial was whether or not the Black teen was acting in self-defense. Texas is one of 31 states with “Stand Your Ground” laws that allow people to use reasonable force, including deadly force, against an assailant under certain circumstances.

Similar laws have been invoked in several high-profile cases across the country, including the 2012 killing of Trayvon Martin, where George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch captain, was acquitted after claiming he shot the 17-year-old in self-defense. Zimmerman outweighed Martin and initiated the encounter; Metcalf was also larger than Anthony and the first to engage. But more than a decade later, Anthony would not be given that same judicial grace.

On Tuesday, a jury convicted Anthony, now 19 years old, of murder. He was sentenced to 35 years in prison. There wasn’t a single Black person on the jury—every Black potential juror was struck before trial. The case has reignited a decades-long conversation, both on and off social media: In the US criminal justice system, who do “Stand Your Ground” laws protect?

Anthony's attorney didn't even try to use stand your ground because it didn't apply. Anthony was the aggressor ACCORDING TO EVERY witness AND the video.
 
Basically, we don't get to stand our ground if attacked by whites.

Karmelo Anthony and the Futility of Claiming Self-Defense While Black​

Black defendants’ “Stand Your Ground” claims against white assailants are denied more than 99 percent of the time.​

Last spring, during a track meet at a Texas high school, 17-year-old Karmelo Anthony stabbed and killed Austin Metcalf, a white student and fellow athlete from a rival school, during an argument. Whether or not Anthony killed Metcalf wasn’t up for discussion: Anthony had admitted his guilt, and there were several witnesses present during the altercation.

The question at the center of Anthony’s trial was whether or not the Black teen was acting in self-defense. Texas is one of 31 states with “Stand Your Ground” laws that allow people to use reasonable force, including deadly force, against an assailant under certain circumstances.

Similar laws have been invoked in several high-profile cases across the country, including the 2012 killing of Trayvon Martin, where George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch captain, was acquitted after claiming he shot the 17-year-old in self-defense. Zimmerman outweighed Martin and initiated the encounter; Metcalf was also larger than Anthony and the first to engage. But more than a decade later, Anthony would not be given that same judicial grace.

On Tuesday, a jury convicted Anthony, now 19 years old, of murder. He was sentenced to 35 years in prison. There wasn’t a single Black person on the jury—every Black potential juror was struck before trial. The case has reignited a decades-long conversation, both on and off social media: In the US criminal justice system, who do “Stand Your Ground” laws protect?

The question then becomes, why did the defense attorney go along with striking all the black potential jurors?
 
Basically, we don't get to stand our ground if attacked by whites.

Karmelo Anthony and the Futility of Claiming Self-Defense While Black​

Black defendants’ “Stand Your Ground” claims against white assailants are denied more than 99 percent of the time.​

Last spring, during a track meet at a Texas high school, 17-year-old Karmelo Anthony stabbed and killed Austin Metcalf, a white student and fellow athlete from a rival school, during an argument. Whether or not Anthony killed Metcalf wasn’t up for discussion: Anthony had admitted his guilt, and there were several witnesses present during the altercation.

The question at the center of Anthony’s trial was whether or not the Black teen was acting in self-defense. Texas is one of 31 states with “Stand Your Ground” laws that allow people to use reasonable force, including deadly force, against an assailant under certain circumstances.

Similar laws have been invoked in several high-profile cases across the country, including the 2012 killing of Trayvon Martin, where George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch captain, was acquitted after claiming he shot the 17-year-old in self-defense. Zimmerman outweighed Martin and initiated the encounter; Metcalf was also larger than Anthony and the first to engage. But more than a decade later, Anthony would not be given that same judicial grace.

On Tuesday, a jury convicted Anthony, now 19 years old, of murder. He was sentenced to 35 years in prison. There wasn’t a single Black person on the jury—every Black potential juror was struck before trial. The case has reignited a decades-long conversation, both on and off social media: In the US criminal justice system, who do “Stand Your Ground” laws protect?

The Anthony never even came close to a stand your ground case. Like most topics you dont know the law. Black witnesses testified against him. He issued the threat "touch me and see what happens" thats intent plus he brought a knife. Guilty as charged lock his ass up

Zimmerman shot Martin who was high on lean as Martin had him on the ground and was punching his head on to the concrete. Martin also was the attacker.

You only have one standard whatever a black does is right.
 
Your racist opinion is inaccurate since Metcalf walked into the tent and initiated the situation. The evidence you are taking but doesn't exist, and Metcalf did not have the authority to tell anyone to leave. Your assumption is a racist assumption that does not meet the facts. Anthony was an honor student with a 3.7 GPA who had never been in trouble. Th reality you racists don't want to face is that it was Metcalf who had the racist fantasy of beating up some black person. You racists lecture us about getting violent over words but here it's fine for a white person e to initiate violence over words.

Then you wonder why you get called a racist.

Drop the white victimhood, you racist pos, Metcalf started a fight, the kid was defending himself. This is going

Your racist opinion is inaccurate since Metcalf walked into the tent and initiated the situation. The evidence you are taking but doesn't exist, and Metcalf did not have the authority to tell anyone to leave. Your assumption is a racist assumption that does not meet the facts. Anthony was an honor student with a 3.7 GPA who had never been in trouble. Th reality you racists don't want to face is that it was Metcalf who had the racist fantasy of beating up some black person. You racists lecture us about getting violent over words but here it's fine for a white person e to initiate violence over words.

Then you wonder why you get called a racist.

Drop the white victimhood, you racist pos, Metcalf started a fight, the kid was defending himself. This is going to come out in th appeal.


He was throwing a gang sign and holding a weapon on his Facebook post.. so that leads me to believe he had something going on there inside his head as a teenager.
That does not make me a racist for noticing that… and having an opinion on that. An opinion which is not to far flung because someone did get stabbed in the heart.
 
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He was throwing a gang sign and holding a weapon on his Facebook post.. so that leads me to believe he had something going on there inside his head as a teenager.
That does not make me a racist for noticing that… and having an opinion on that. An opinion which is not to far flung because someone did get stabbed in the heart.


But yeah, you just keep on calling people racist for not agreeing with you .
 
The Anthony never even came close to a stand your ground case. Like most topics you dont know the law. Black witnesses testified against him. He issued the threat "touch me and see what happens" thats intent plus he brought a knife. Guilty as charged lock his ass up

Zimmerman shot Martin who was high on lean as Martin had him on the ground and was punching his head on to the concrete. Martin also was the attacker.

You only have one standard whatever a black does is right.
Actually, it was classic stand your ground, but again, I don't expect racists to see it that way. Martin was not high, and Martin was not the attacker. For someone to say what Anthony said means that Metcalf had threatened to put his hands on Anthony. It is legal to carry a knife in Texas. Whites testified against Chauvin and in the cases, but that has not stopped you racists from making false claims. So telling me that black witnesses testified like that gave Metcalf permission to remove someone from a tent at a school-sponsored activity, doesn't mean anything.
 
Your racist opinion is inaccurate since Metcalf walked into the tent and initiated the situation. The evidence you are taking but doesn't exist, and Metcalf did not have the authority to tell anyone to leave. Your assumption is a racist assumption that does not meet the facts. Anthony was an honor student with a 3.7 GPA who had never been in trouble. Th reality you racists don't want to face is that it was Metcalf who had the racist fantasy of beating up some black person. You racists lecture us about getting violent over words but here it's fine for a white person e to initiate violence over words.

Then you wonder why you get called a racist.

Drop the white victimhood, you racist pos, Metcalf started a fight, the kid was defending himself. This is going to come out in th appeal.

Your racist opinion is inaccurate since Metcalf walked into the tent and initiated the situation.

The black convicted murderer initiated the situation.

Anthony was an honor student with a 3.7 GPA who had never been in trouble.

Except for getting in trouble for bringing a knife to school.
 

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