Opinions differ after briefing on boat bombing.

[Woodznutz]

*and put criminals in jail, even if they have titles in government.

That could happen if Congress flips next year.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

That could happen if Congress flips next year.

Heh, I doubt it. The rapist charity thief controls law enforcement.

 

[Woodznutz]

Heh, I doubt it. The rapist charity thief controls law enforcement.

No one controls the vote.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No one controls the vote.

But the fat rapist controls the DOJ.

 

[Woodznutz]

But the fat rapist controls the DOJ.

For the time being.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

For the time being.

Until January 2029 or until he drops dead.

Place your bets on that one.

 

[Woodznutz]

The larger picture you are missing is the illegality of the initial strike.......and all initial strikes of this nature. No legal justification to Congress has been offered by the regime.

The "larger picture" to me is that I wouldn't fight the war on drugs this way. I would marshal all present resources used to find and detain drug users. They are the true head of the beast as they provide all the money for the drug trade.

 

[Woodznutz]

Until January 2029 or until he drops dead.

Place your bets on that one.

He still needs the Congress for most of his programs. They control the purse. If the House flips in "26" he's done for.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He still needs the Congress for most of his programs.

Most? Yeah, I think the EOs being laughed out of the room by the lower courts -- then reinforced by the corrupt SCOTUS -- show otherwise.

 

[Woodznutz]

He's not winning all of those cases.

 

[Rawley]

Not just that, it's an attempt to assert the presidential authority to unilaterally determine who the regime can justifiably kill.

Like Obama did. For all eight years. In seven different countries.

 

[BULLDOG]

You do know it all transits through Venezuela....don't you?

Not according to the state department.

 

[westwall]

Not according to the state department.

The same State Department that has been failing every task it has been given?

No wonder they always fail.

They're incompetent.

 

[Stann]

R's are circling the wagons.

Top military officers show lawmakers video of the Sept. 2 boat attack.​

Top military officers showed senior members of Congress a video of a Sept. 2 attack on a boat suspected of carrying drugs, including a follow-up strike that has been at the center of a growing debate over the Trump administration’s lethal mission.

But Republicans and Democrats left the closed-door meetings drawing starkly different conclusions after watching the unedited video of the initial strike on the boat on Sept. 2 and the follow-up that killed the survivors and sank the boat.

Senator Tom Cotton, Republican of Arkansas and the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, called the attack “highly lawful and lethal.” He said the video showed two survivors trying to flip a boat “loaded with drugs bound for the United States.” The follow-up missiles were “exactly what we’d expect our military commanders to do,” Mr. Cotton added.

Representative Rick Crawford, Republican of Arkansas and the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said there was “no doubt” in his mind that the Defense Department was carrying out the strikes in a “highly professional manner.”

But Democrats exited the briefings even more concerned about the campaign against drug smugglers that to date has included strikes on 21 vessels in the Caribbean Sea and eastern Pacific Ocean that have killed 83 people.

Representative Jim Himes, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee who for years has been read in on sensitive counterterrorism and covert operations, told reporters that the Sept. 2 attack video was “one of the most troubling things I’ve seen in my time in public service.”
“You have two individuals in clear distress without any means of locomotion with a destroyed vessel who were killed by the United States,” he said.

Imagine my surprise that R's and D's can look at the same video and reach different conclusions. It's a metaphor for the times we live in. Facts can not be agreed upon.

Fact is there is an ongoing campaign to.try to make this go.away. Including idiotic photos comparimg a real.drug boat to a fishing boat
If they wanted to make a point they should show one of those drug boats loaded with drugs and a couple of crew compared to the boat in question carrying 11 people and no apparent drugs. There wasn't room for any with all those people on board. The people were the cargo. If it was an illegal operation or not we'll never know. Because they made sure there were no survivors or evidence to say otherwise. You need more proof . Trump said he'd realse the video. Now he's going along with Hegseth saying he won't release it. He knows it will damage him and this campaign. But I say the greater damage is not admitting the mistake. It is a blow to.the integrity and valor of our military. Another step down the path to hell.

 

[DGS49]

The so-called, "second strike" on the innocent fishermen was perfectly legal, and every objective observer who is familiar with the rules of warfare agrees. ****, the Democrats in Congress think they were entitled to a Trial-by-Jury before launching the coup de grace.

The fact is that "enemy combatants" - which is what those drug runners were, legally speaking - are not targeted and killed because of what they have done, or what they are doing, or intend to do. They are targeted because of what they are: enemy combatants. The wartime presumption is that if they survive they will continue doing what they were doing when attacked, and thus they are "fair game," as the saying goes.

It is analogous to POW's. They are not entitled to a trial because they are not held for what they have DONE; they are held for what they ARE, and they will not be released until the hostilities end, one way or another.

 

[struth]

It seems the military and gop agree with what was in the video and the dems are spreading a false narrative to defend their narcoterrorist friends

 

[BackAgain]

R's are circling the wagons.

Top military officers show lawmakers video of the Sept. 2 boat attack.​

Top military officers showed senior members of Congress a video of a Sept. 2 attack on a boat suspected of carrying drugs, including a follow-up strike that has been at the center of a growing debate over the Trump administration’s lethal mission.

But Republicans and Democrats left the closed-door meetings drawing starkly different conclusions after watching the unedited video of the initial strike on the boat on Sept. 2 and the follow-up that killed the survivors and sank the boat.

Senator Tom Cotton, Republican of Arkansas and the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, called the attack “highly lawful and lethal.” He said the video showed two survivors trying to flip a boat “loaded with drugs bound for the United States.” The follow-up missiles were “exactly what we’d expect our military commanders to do,” Mr. Cotton added.

Representative Rick Crawford, Republican of Arkansas and the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said there was “no doubt” in his mind that the Defense Department was carrying out the strikes in a “highly professional manner.”

But Democrats exited the briefings even more concerned about the campaign against drug smugglers that to date has included strikes on 21 vessels in the Caribbean Sea and eastern Pacific Ocean that have killed 83 people.

Representative Jim Himes, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee who for years has been read in on sensitive counterterrorism and covert operations, told reporters that the Sept. 2 attack video was “one of the most troubling things I’ve seen in my time in public service.”
“You have two individuals in clear distress without any means of locomotion with a destroyed vessel who were killed by the United States,” he said.

Imagine my surprise that R's and D's can look at the same video and reach different conclusions. It's a metaphor for the times we live in. Facts can not be agreed upon.

Because your fellow libturds are inherently unreasonable and always assume the worst of anything done by America or by Trump.

 

[Stann]

R's are circling the wagons.

Top military officers show lawmakers video of the Sept. 2 boat attack.​

Top military officers showed senior members of Congress a video of a Sept. 2 attack on a boat suspected of carrying drugs, including a follow-up strike that has been at the center of a growing debate over the Trump administration’s lethal mission.

But Republicans and Democrats left the closed-door meetings drawing starkly different conclusions after watching the unedited video of the initial strike on the boat on Sept. 2 and the follow-up that killed the survivors and sank the boat.

Senator Tom Cotton, Republican of Arkansas and the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, called the attack “highly lawful and lethal.” He said the video showed two survivors trying to flip a boat “loaded with drugs bound for the United States.” The follow-up missiles were “exactly what we’d expect our military commanders to do,” Mr. Cotton added.

Representative Rick Crawford, Republican of Arkansas and the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said there was “no doubt” in his mind that the Defense Department was carrying out the strikes in a “highly professional manner.”

But Democrats exited the briefings even more concerned about the campaign against drug smugglers that to date has included strikes on 21 vessels in the Caribbean Sea and eastern Pacific Ocean that have killed 83 people.

Representative Jim Himes, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee who for years has been read in on sensitive counterterrorism and covert operations, told reporters that the Sept. 2 attack video was “one of the most troubling things I’ve seen in my time in public service.”
“You have two individuals in clear distress without any means of locomotion with a destroyed vessel who were killed by the United States,” he said.

Imagine my surprise that R's and D's can look at the same video and reach different conclusions. It's a metaphor for the times we live in. Facts can not be agreed upon.

The most important event in all of this is trump saying he'd release the tapes ( proof ) , then saying he would not , them finally saying he'd leave it in Hegseths' hands.Of course he won't release them. It would finish him off.This is his biggest mistake he's made and he's made plenty. Article 133 of the UCMJ would have no choice but to put him in prison. trump tried to wash his hands of this but he put him in charge and he left the chicken coop door open for the fox. Anyone with a brain can see through this. republicans choose to be blind to it , like everything else trump. Enable , enable , enable !

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Let's see the video.

 

[berg80]

Hegseth Briefs Congress on Boat Attacks but Withholds Video of Survivors’ Deaths​

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth refused to share video of a heavily scrutinized Sept. 2 military strike on a suspected drug boat during briefings with Congress on Tuesday. Mr. Hegseth faced calls to share unedited video of the attack, in which a follow-up strike killed two survivors, but said he would play it only for the House and Senate Armed Services committees. Mr. Hegseth added that it would not be made public. The U.S. military attacks have killed at least 95 people.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/12/16/us/trump-news

Dear Leader gave Pete all the rope he needs to hang himself, politically, by washing his hands of these decisions and leaving it up to the former weekend host at Faux.