Debate Now A Hard Look at the MAGA Movement

[Mac-7]

Nope, not at all. But clearly your learning disability makes it impossible for you to comprehend.

EVERY IMMIGRANT GROUP has started at the bottom and worked their way up. I recently found a picture of the "House" my grandparents owned in 1940. It has less square footage than my Condo, and they had to take on a boarder, according to the 1940 census.

You’re in full babble mode now

You want illegal aliens because they work cheaper than Americans

 

[JoeB131]

You’re in full babble mode now

You want illegal aliens because they work cheaper than Americans

I want immigrants because we need the labor, we need the people to support our labor needs, and to fuck over the racist, right wing twits who have run this country into the ground.

 

[Mac-7]

I want immigrants because we need the labor

You want cheap foreign labor

You’ve already admitted it

 

[JoeB131]

You want cheap foreign labor

You’ve already admitted it

Again, you need to work on that learning disability.

I can explain it to you again, and you still wouldn't understand.

 

[Mac-7]

Again, you need to work on that learning disability.

I can explain it to you again, and you still wouldn't understand.

You want to have it both ways but I wont let you

You argued against paying Americans a living wage because you want cheap lettuce in the grocery store picked by illegal aliens for slave wages

 

[Blaster]

The old country club Republicans are the dinosaurs of the GOP. There is now a younger more conservative group that wants to change the old, stale thinking that has been detrimental to this party.

 

[JoeB131]

You want to have it both ways but I wont let you

You argued against paying Americans a living wage because you want cheap lettuce in the grocery store picked by illegal aliens for slave wages

Well, you are probably too retarded to understand the concept.

NO AMERICAN WANTS TO DO THE JOB FOR THE PAY THE MARKET DEMANDS!!!!

Sorry, man, you guys talk all day about the market, but the market doesn't pay that much for cleaning toilets or picking lettuce. That's why it goes to the bottom rungs of the labor pool.

The difference is, Immigrants accept being on the bottom rung to climb up. Americans on the next to bottom rung have no ambition to climb up.

 

[Mac-7]

NO AMERICAN WANTS TO DO THE JOB FOR THE PAY THE MARKET DEMANDS!!!!

Agreed

Farmers will have to pay higher wages to their farm workers

You think that will radically raise prices and I think it will raise the standard of living for farm workers

 

[JoeB131]

Agreed

Farmers will have to pay higher wages to their farm workers

You think that will radically raise prices and I think it will raise the standard of living for farm workers

Except they will pay more for lower quality work.

If you are a loser living in a rural trailer park, you simply don't have much of a work ethic. Immigrants will work their asses off, trying to better themselves. So pay more money for people who don't work nearly as hard.

That's a great business plan. You should try to implement that.

I'll give you a real life example. I worked for a company that hired a bunch of "contractors" to do assembly. We kind of knew they were undocumented, but they worked hard and if the staffing agency said they were good, we had no issue.

Well, low and behold, when they got bought out by a bigger company, the edict came down that you had to prove they were Americans. The Mexicans all left, and they found these white meth-heads who were not only not nearly as effective, but really scared the customer service ladies. When they got paid, they'd go off and get high and not show up the next week, and they sent a whole new batch of methheads.

But they were white and American, Dammit!!!

 

[leftwinger]

Funny know it all JoSephus & PeeKKKnobsonit with the tired old 1970s’ Stain talking points like know-it-alls. Yawning repeatedly.

 

[Mac-7]

Except they will pay more for lower quality work.

If you are a loser living in a rural trailer park, you simply don't have much of a work ethic. Immigrants will work their asses off, trying to better themselves. So pay more money for people who don't work nearly as hard.

That's a great business plan. You should try to implement that.

I'll give you a real life example. I worked for a company that hired a bunch of "contractors" to do assembly. We kind of knew they were undocumented, but they worked hard and if the staffing agency said they were good, we had no issue.

Well, low and behold, when they got bought out by a bigger company, the edict came down that you had to prove they were Americans. The Mexicans all left, and they found these white meth-heads who were not only not nearly as effective, but really scared the customer service ladies. When they got paid, they'd go off and get high and not show up the next week, and they sent a whole new batch of methheads.

But they were white and American, Dammit!!!

So its not only workers who work for pennies but also dont complain about poor working conditions also

I think we can do better than that

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So its not only workers who work for pennies but also dont complain about poor working conditions also

I think we can do better than that

Of course we can. Give the migrants the right to work and a quick path to citizenship.

 

[JoeB131]

So its not only workers who work for pennies but also dont complain about poor working conditions also

I think we can do better than that

Sure we can.

We just can't do it with the inhabitants of trailer parks and housing projects.

We need to import people with a work ethic.

 

[Blaster]

Give the migrants the right to work and a quick path to citizenship.

Deport them.

 

[Mac-7]

Of course we can. Give the migrants the right to work and a quick path to citizenship.

Why not incentivize Americans on welfare to take those jobs instead?

 

[Rawley]

So its not only workers who work for pennies but also dont complain about poor working conditions also

I think we can do better than that

And they are breeders. That was his argument yesterday,

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Deport them.

A stupid and untenable idea.

Moving on...

 

[Mac-7]

Of course we can. Give the migrants the right to work and a quick path to citizenship.

No path to citizenship for migrants ever

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why not incentivize Americans on welfare to take those jobs instead?

By raising the pay with legislation? oh that's right. This is the right wing "starve them out" strategy.

"If the alternative is making $0, they will work for $1."

If we ever need to guess the right wing strategy, just pick the most cruel idea imaginable.

It will be correct.

 

[Blaster]

A stupid and untenable idea.

A much better idea than giving them citizenship.