Originally posted by Fitz
Spoken like a true ignoramus.
Ok then, Fitz...
You just solved one of the most intractable issues of all western theology. The same issue Augustine, Aquinas tried in vain to explain.
Is that better for your ego?
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Originally posted by Fitz
Spoken like a true ignoramus.
Without Free will and the power to choose ones destiny, there is no real life or love.
The OP asked why "a just a righteous God would allow all this to happen". I wonder why He allows a car bombing, plane hi-jacking, suicide cult of a religion to continue.José;3128288 said:LOL, scientist. Ask an honest question and get a smartass...
No. My issue was with your shitty attitude. I didn't attack your answer in case you missed it.José;3128489 said:Originally posted by Fitz
Spoken like a true ignoramus.
Ok then, Fitz...
You just solved one of the most intractable issues of all western theology. The same issue Augustine, Aquinas tried in vain to explain.
Is that better for your ego?
Without Free will and the power to choose ones destiny, there is no real life or love.
Very true. And yet the Free Will Baptists are very controlling/opressive of their membership.
The reason to be leary of every denomination.Without Free will and the power to choose ones destiny, there is no real life or love.
Very true. And yet the Free Will Baptists are very controlling/opressive of their membership.
That's their problem.
P.S., as a Christian... I can't stand Benny Hinn either. I can't say he's a charlatan, or fraud for I don't really know about his healing powers. But he is a revolting showman who I think hurts Christianity with his histronics.
Yes. I wonder at the mystery of life. It is perplexing/i have a question for those of all faiths and those who have none....
why would a just and righteous god allow what is going on to go on?
why would he allow his beloved children to hate each other over beliefs in him or her?
i see people like benny hinn (the faith healer) and wonder why god doesnt strike him dead? do you ever wonder about this?
i have a question for those of all faiths and those who have none....
why would a just and righteous god allow what is going on to go on?
why would he allow his beloved children to hate each other over beliefs in him or her?
i see people like benny hinn (the faith healer) and wonder why god doesnt strike him dead? do you ever wonder about this?
Do you punish your children when the disobey? Do you love them? We all all God's children yet we were born in sin. Jesus is the our Savior and only through him can you become one of the saved ones. The trials and tribulations we go through test our commitment to God. Yes many bad things happen in the world, but the world is Satan's playground and it is through him that these bad things happen. God allows this because Adam and Eve chose to violate the law and God sentenced human kind to live in Satan's world. Temptation will always exist until Jesus returns.
well that does kinda run contrary to Scripture where it talks about the people being led astray near the end of the 1000 years of peace under Christ's rule before the doors are slammed shut on all those who rebel against God.Do you punish your children when the disobey? Do you love them? We all all God's children yet we were born in sin. Jesus is the our Savior and only through him can you become one of the saved ones. The trials and tribulations we go through test our commitment to God. Yes many bad things happen in the world, but the world is Satan's playground and it is through him that these bad things happen. God allows this because Adam and Eve chose to violate the law and God sentenced human kind to live in Satan's world. Temptation will always exist until Jesus returns.
so you are saying when Jesus returns.....Temptation suddenly becomes something we know nothing about?......it just vanishes from our minds?.....
José;3128164 said:Lots and lots of messages but absolutely no answer to strollingbones' questions:
why would a just and righteous god allow what is going on to go on?
why would he allow his beloved children to hate each other over beliefs in him or her?
A God who favors the freedom of his creatures to do evil over goodness itself is not the totally righteous spiritual being described in Judeo-Christian theology.
Sin, man's fall (corporately), God's redemption (individually), man restored (individually), then comes the end of time and eternal life for those who chose to be saved.
i have a question for those of all faiths and those who have none....
why would a just and righteous god allow what is going on to go on?
why would he allow his beloved children to hate each other over beliefs in him or her?
i see people like benny hinn (the faith healer) and wonder why god doesnt strike him dead? do you ever wonder about this?
God gave us all, his creation FREE WILL. What we do on this Earth is OUR doing, and OUR doing alone.
God allows us domain over this world, watching how we act, remember him, or not, live for him, or not, choose good, or evil, etc.
God will intervene eventually, sooner rather than later, to find out how, read REVELATIONS.
god gave us all, his creation free will. What we do on this earth is our doing, and our doing alone.
god allows us domain over this world, watching how we act, remember him, or not, live for him, or not, choose good, or evil, etc.
God will intervene eventually, sooner rather than later, to find out how, read revelations.
so you're saying it's always our free will alone without any interference.
Except when god intervenes.
Which you have no way of telling
well that does kinda run contrary to Scripture where it talks about the people being led astray near the end of the 1000 years of peace under Christ's rule before the doors are slammed shut on all those who rebel against God.Do you punish your children when the disobey? Do you love them? We all all God's children yet we were born in sin. Jesus is the our Savior and only through him can you become one of the saved ones. The trials and tribulations we go through test our commitment to God. Yes many bad things happen in the world, but the world is Satan's playground and it is through him that these bad things happen. God allows this because Adam and Eve chose to violate the law and God sentenced human kind to live in Satan's world. Temptation will always exist until Jesus returns.
so you are saying when Jesus returns.....Temptation suddenly becomes something we know nothing about?......it just vanishes from our minds?.....