Zone1 "My God, My God, Why Have You Forsaken Me"

[Cougarbear]

While on the cross dying Jesus said

"My God, My God, Why Have You Forsaken Me"​

Probably the most misunderstood and twisted quote in all of the Bible.

The numbering system of chapters and verses was not created until 1560 AD. Prior to that you quoted the first part to let people know what you’re going to read.

Today we say Psalm 22.

Then you said

"My God, My God, Why Have You Forsaken Me"​

The first verse of Psalm 22.

Jesus wanted everyone to read Psalm 22 so they understood what was happening.

1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me, from the words of my groaning? 2 O my God, I cry by day, but you do not answer, and by night, but I find no rest.

3 Yet you are holy, enthroned on the praises of Israel. 4 In you our fathers trusted; they trusted, and you delivered them. 5 To you they cried and were rescued; in you they trusted and were not put to shame.

6 But I am a worm and not a man, scorned by mankind and despised by the people. 7 All who see me mock me; they make mouths at me; they wag their heads;8 "He trusts in the LORD; let him deliver him; let him rescue him, for he delights in him!"

9 Yet you are he who took me from the womb; you made me trust you at my mother's breasts. 10 On you was I cast from my birth, and from my mother's womb you have been my God. 11 Be not far from me, for trouble is near, and there is none to help.

12 Many bulls encompass me; strong bulls of Bashan surround me; 13 they open wide their mouths at me, like a ravening and roaring lion.

14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint; my heart is like wax; it is melted within my breast; 15 my strength is dried up like a potsherd, and my tongue sticks to my jaws; you lay me in the dust of death.

16 For dogs encompass me; a company of evildoers encircles me; they have pierced my hands and feet— 17 I can count all my bones— they stare and gloat over me; 18 they divide my garments among them, and for my clothing they cast lots.

19 But you, O LORD, do not be far off! O you my help, come quickly to my aid!20 Deliver my soul from the sword, my precious life from the power of the dog!21 Save me from the mouth of the lion! You have rescued me from the horns of the wild oxen!

22 I will tell of your name to my brothers; in the midst of the congregation I will praise you: 23 You who fear the LORD, praise him! All you offspring of Jacob, glorify him, and stand in awe of him, all you offspring of Israel! 24 For he has not despised or abhorred the affliction of the afflicted, and he has not hidden his face from him, but has heard, when he cried to him.

25 From you comes my praise in the great congregation; my vows I will perform before those who fear him. 26 The afflicted shall eat and be satisfied; those who seek him shall praise the LORD! May your hearts live forever!

27 All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn to the LORD, and all the families of the nations shall worship before you. 28 For kingship belongs to the LORD, and he rules over the nations.

29 All the prosperous of the earth eat and worship; before him shall bow all who go down to the dust, even the one who could not keep himself alive. 30 Posterity shall serve him; it shall be told of the Lord to the coming generation; 31 they shall come and proclaim his righteousness to a people yet unborn, that he has done it.

But, Surada will come along and say it was about so and so of the OT and not prophetic about Jesus even with verse 16. Some people just can't see the forrest for the trees.

 

[surada]

But, Surada will come along and say it was about so and so of the OT and not prophetic about Jesus even with verse 16. Some people just can't see the forrest for the trees.

Don't you think Jesus was taught about king David?

 

[surada]

The Sanhedrin would have been the ones to prosecute Jesus. The Nasi at the time was Gamaliel the Elder who was widely respected and even the Bible says that he showed mercy on the Apostles. We're supposed to believe he went around the law to get Jesus killed by the Romans. We're supposed to believe that Pilate was so weak that he would kowtow to the Jewish leaders, and thus destroy his own ability to rule. We're supposed to believe that the Sanherdrin did this because they were afraid of Jesus' large following, despite not even one contemporary account surviving that ever mentions this mini-army. We're supposed to believe that Jewish crowds turned against Jesus in a matter of days, despite Jesus having an army at his back and a host of miracles performed in the name of God in his resume. None of this story makes any kind of sense. It's as fictional as a talking snake or goats giving birth to striped goats because they mated near a striped stick.

Jesus was not in any danger in the north around Galilee or the Decapolis. Herod Antipas wasn't worried about him . Jesus was as only in danger in Jerusalem.

 

[irosie91]

the emperor adopted a new gawd and had
to cover the ass of the empire that killed him

 

[Cougarbear]

Don't you think Jesus was taught about king David?

I know King David was taught about Jesus Christ...

 

[Carl in Michigan]

The army of followers that terrified the Sanhedrin into getting the Romans to kill Jesus. According to the Bible one of his generals chopped off the ear of a Temple guard. Jesus recommended that his followers take up arms: "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."-Luke 22:36

You misunderstand SO much.

Why Did Jesus Tell Disciples to Arm Themselves? – Christ Enemy Love

Christ Enemy Love

christenemylove.com

 

[surada]

I know King David was taught about Jesus Christ...

Many of the Psalms were Canaanite poems.

In 1929, Claude Schaeffer and his colleagues discovered the remains of the ancient city of Ugarit in Syria, including clay tablets that contained archives of the city. These tablets have had a significant impact on the study of the Hebrew Bible, including the book of Psalms, which contains much of Israel's religious poetry. T. H. Gaster and H. L. Ginsberg were the first to notice the similarities between Ugaritic poetry and biblical psalmody, especially in Psalm 29.

 

[surada]

You misunderstand SO much.

Why Did Jesus Tell Disciples to Arm Themselves? – Christ Enemy Love

Christ Enemy Love

christenemylove.com

Luke was much younger and he lived in Antioch. He never met Jesus.

 

[Weatherman2020]

You misunderstand SO much.

Why Did Jesus Tell Disciples to Arm Themselves? – Christ Enemy Love

Christ Enemy Love

christenemylove.com

WWJD?

Tossing furniture and whipping people is a possibility.
And when he returns on a white horse it’s ass kicking time.

 

[irosie91]

WWJD?

Tossing furniture and whipping people is a possibility.
And when he returns on a white horse it’s ass kicking time.

white donkey

 

[Weatherman2020]

white donkey

That must be the St Idanoclue translation.

 

[irosie91]

Many of the Psalms were Canaanite poems.

In 1929, Claude Schaeffer and his colleagues discovered the remains of the ancient city of Ugarit in Syria, including clay tablets that contained archives of the city. These tablets have had a significant impact on the study of the Hebrew Bible, including the book of Psalms, which contains much of Israel's religious poetry. T. H. Gaster and H. L. Ginsberg were the first to notice the similarities between Ugaritic poetry and biblical psalmody, especially in Psalm 29.

The army of flying monkeys out to
get Judy Garland in the WIZARD OF OZ
is lifted from the MAHABHARATA----in
sanskrit. No doubt David was into Ugaritic writings out there with his sheep. There were freely available classic
ugarit comics in the local candy store

 

[irosie91]

That must be the St Idanoclue translation.

translation of what? JESUS traveled by
donkey. Platero was a white donkey too

 

[Carl in Michigan]

WWJD?

Tossing furniture and whipping people is a possibility.
And when he returns on a white horse it’s ass kicking time.

He and His saints with Him. But not in 2024

 

[The Duke]

Quite a prophetic Psalm!

Hundreds of years before it happened, too.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

The army of flying monkeys out to
get Judy Garland in the WIZARD OF OZ
is lifted from the MAHABHARATA----in
sanskrit. No doubt David was into Ugaritic writings out there with his sheep. There were freely available classic
ugarit comics in the local candy store

Why do all the God hating kooks flock to the religion forum. There are no serious discussions here

 

[Weatherman2020]

translation of what? JESUS traveled by
donkey. Platero was a white donkey too

I said returns.
Revelation 19:11-21

 

[Weatherman2020]

He and His saints with Him. But not in 2024

You don’t know that.

 

[The Duke]

jews don't read psalm 22

Never?

 

[irosie91]

Why do all the God hating kooks flock to the religion forum. There are no serious discussions here

what do you consider 'serious'? How
about the story that Herod killed John
because salome did a dance? or
David's familiarity with Ugarit writings.
(I just touched on the very surface of
SILLINESS)

I said returns.
Revelation 19:11-21

oh---the mushroom galvanized book of convulsions