Why Democrats Are in Trouble

[Greenbeard]

With the entitlement mindset thats now befalling this country, we may never see another republican president.

The last Republican president created a new entitlement.

 

[Rocko]

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If I'm reading this correctly, the writer is saying (1) it's okay that we lost, the other guys will screw up anyway, and (2) we don't need to change anything, the electorate will like us more next time. I'm inferring, of course.

Yikes. Don't know if that's a great strategy.

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I think the electorate will like Republicans more in 2016. Voters tend to switch control of the White House every eight years or so.

The problem for the Republicans is the degree of nastiness that they tolerate coming from their party. Offending Hispanics does not win you votes, offending young women does not win you votes, neither does offending blacks, gays or working Americans

Republicans need to respect those groups who have abandoned them. Let them know that you understand their struggles and believe that republican solutions are the answer

There is a small core of Republicans who are nasty and disrespectful to those Americans who do not conform to the GOP ideal of what Americans should be. Until there is a price to pay for some of the nastiness coming from this small group, ALL Republicans will pay the price

Republicans haven't been nasty to any group, and we will not pander to any group to win votes.

 

[rightwinger]

Have you bothered to notice the degree of nastiness from the Democrats here? It's both sides but to portray the Republicans as the most nasty runs contrary to what one can observe at least here anyway.

The response I expected

If you expected it that means you had to acknowledge it even if secretly.... to yourself.

Like I said...It was the response I expected

But...but...Democrats do it too!

The past election showed Republicans have become an old, white, christian party. Hispanics voted 72% for Obama. Hispanics should be, by nature conservative. They are hard working, religious and family oriented. A natural conservative base. But extreme rightwing rhetoric and policies have driven them to the left...maybe for good

Gays are not going to vote Republican. Republicans say, we don't care, less than 5% of the population is gay. But gays have families, gays have friends, gays have coworkers who see the Republican witch hunt against gays in our society and say...Thats not fair

The American worker is another natural Conservative. They have traditional American values. But the American worker is suffering. They are having a harder and harder time getting by. Calling workers lazy, looking for handouts, wanting free stuff while offering them trickle down from the one percent is not working for conservatives

 

[Katzndogz]

With the entitlement mindset thats now befalling this country, we may never see another republican president.

That's true. By the time obama is done in another four years, we might have a majority demanding that he stay on, for life if need be.

The fact is, if something is unsustainable, it won't be sustained. This is what Western Europe is facing now. The socialist countries are failing. The more capitalistic Asia is rising. Russia has thrown off the communist economic model and Russian billionaires are buying up Florida.

The democrats have become the snake eating its own tail. Which doesn't mean the democrat agenda can be stopped. At this point it can't. This will have to be ridden out to the very last.

 

[beretta304]

The response I expected

If you expected it that means you had to acknowledge it even if secretly.... to yourself.

Like I said...It was the response I expected

But...but...Democrats do it too!

The past election showed Republicans have become an old, white, christian party. Hispanics voted 72% for Obama. Hispanics should be, by nature conservative. They are hard working, religious and family oriented. A natural conservative base. But extreme rightwing rhetoric and policies have driven them to the left...maybe for good

Gays are not going to vote Republican. Republicans say, we don't care, less than 5% of the population is gay. But gays have families, gays have friends, gays have coworkers who see the Republican witch hunt against gays in our society and say...Thats not fair

The American worker is another natural Conservative. They have traditional American values. But the American worker is suffering. They are having a harder and harder time getting by. Calling workers lazy, looking for handouts, wanting free stuff while offering them trickle down from the one percent is not working for conservatives

Whcih says nothing about what you posted...that Republicans are nasty and not Democrats. I propose BOTH are equally as nasty and I stand by what I said that it is demonstrated here on a daily basis. And as of late, I have never witnessed such nasty sore- winners.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The response I expected

If you expected it that means you had to acknowledge it even if secretly.... to yourself.

Like I said...It was the response I expected

But...but...Democrats do it too!

The past election showed Republicans have become an old, white, christian party. Hispanics voted 72% for Obama. Hispanics should be, by nature conservative. They are hard working, religious and family oriented. A natural conservative base. But extreme rightwing rhetoric and policies have driven them to the left...maybe for good

Gays are not going to vote Republican. Republicans say, we don't care, less than 5% of the population is gay. But gays have families, gays have friends, gays have coworkers who see the Republican witch hunt against gays in our society and say...Thats not fair

The American worker is another natural Conservative. They have traditional American values. But the American worker is suffering. They are having a harder and harder time getting by. Calling workers lazy, looking for handouts, wanting free stuff while offering them trickle down from the one percent is not working for conservatives

Yet all of which you speak about is simply propaganda and people buy the propaganda.

 

[Rocko]

If you expected it that means you had to acknowledge it even if secretly.... to yourself.

Like I said...It was the response I expected

But...but...Democrats do it too!

The past election showed Republicans have become an old, white, christian party. Hispanics voted 72% for Obama. Hispanics should be, by nature conservative. They are hard working, religious and family oriented. A natural conservative base. But extreme rightwing rhetoric and policies have driven them to the left...maybe for good

Gays are not going to vote Republican. Republicans say, we don't care, less than 5% of the population is gay. But gays have families, gays have friends, gays have coworkers who see the Republican witch hunt against gays in our society and say...Thats not fair

The American worker is another natural Conservative. They have traditional American values. But the American worker is suffering. They are having a harder and harder time getting by. Calling workers lazy, looking for handouts, wanting free stuff while offering them trickle down from the one percent is not working for conservatives

Whcih says nothing about what you posted...that Republicans are nasty and not Democrats. I propose BOTH are equally as nasty and I stand by what I said that it is demonstrated here on a daily basis. And as of late, I have never witnessed such nasty sore- winners.

Sore winners is right. Rightwinger says he just giving republicans advice, when all he is doing is putting on a virtues act by telling Republicans how nasty they are.

 

[beretta304]

Like I said...It was the response I expected

But...but...Democrats do it too!

The past election showed Republicans have become an old, white, christian party. Hispanics voted 72% for Obama. Hispanics should be, by nature conservative. They are hard working, religious and family oriented. A natural conservative base. But extreme rightwing rhetoric and policies have driven them to the left...maybe for good

Gays are not going to vote Republican. Republicans say, we don't care, less than 5% of the population is gay. But gays have families, gays have friends, gays have coworkers who see the Republican witch hunt against gays in our society and say...Thats not fair

The American worker is another natural Conservative. They have traditional American values. But the American worker is suffering. They are having a harder and harder time getting by. Calling workers lazy, looking for handouts, wanting free stuff while offering them trickle down from the one percent is not working for conservatives

Whcih says nothing about what you posted...that Republicans are nasty and not Democrats. I propose BOTH are equally as nasty and I stand by what I said that it is demonstrated here on a daily basis. And as of late, I have never witnessed such nasty sore- winners.

Sore winners is right. Rightwinger says he just giving republicans advice, when all he is doing is putting on a virtues act and telling Republicans how nasty they are.

Rightwinger has never been one to take serious. His thinking is simplistic and juvenile. Predictable too as will be evidenced when he says that my post proves that Republicans are the nastier ones. What he misses is the fact that what I said about him is just the truth.

 

[rightwinger]

If you expected it that means you had to acknowledge it even if secretly.... to yourself.

Like I said...It was the response I expected

But...but...Democrats do it too!

The past election showed Republicans have become an old, white, christian party. Hispanics voted 72% for Obama. Hispanics should be, by nature conservative. They are hard working, religious and family oriented. A natural conservative base. But extreme rightwing rhetoric and policies have driven them to the left...maybe for good

Gays are not going to vote Republican. Republicans say, we don't care, less than 5% of the population is gay. But gays have families, gays have friends, gays have coworkers who see the Republican witch hunt against gays in our society and say...Thats not fair

The American worker is another natural Conservative. They have traditional American values. But the American worker is suffering. They are having a harder and harder time getting by. Calling workers lazy, looking for handouts, wanting free stuff while offering them trickle down from the one percent is not working for conservatives

Yet all of which you speak about is simply propaganda and people buy the propaganda.

You might believe it to be propaganda. But the members of those affected groups obviously think otherwise

Republicans are making it too easy for Dems to paint them as crazies

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Why Democrats Are in Trouble

That's what you folks insisted....

.....BEFORE THE ELECTION!!!!!

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[rightwinger]

Whcih says nothing about what you posted...that Republicans are nasty and not Democrats. I propose BOTH are equally as nasty and I stand by what I said that it is demonstrated here on a daily basis. And as of late, I have never witnessed such nasty sore- winners.

Sore winners is right. Rightwinger says he just giving republicans advice, when all he is doing is putting on a virtues act and telling Republicans how nasty they are.

Rightwinger has never been one to take serious. His thinking is simplistic and juvenile. Predictable too as will be evidenced when he says that my post proves that Republicans are the nastier ones. What he misses is the fact that what I said about him is just the truth.

Care to discuss?

I'll post examples of Republicans being nasty that cost them votes and you can do the same for Democrats

1. Mitts 47% of Americans are lazy and looking for government handouts
2. Rush Limbaughs Sandra Fluke is a slut
3. Akins and Mourdocks views on rape victims
4. Republican bills on immigration reform (Arizona and Alabama) and English as an official language
5. Republican opposition to gay marriage and DADT
6. Birthers

Your turn

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Like I said...It was the response I expected

But...but...Democrats do it too!

The past election showed Republicans have become an old, white, christian party. Hispanics voted 72% for Obama. Hispanics should be, by nature conservative. They are hard working, religious and family oriented. A natural conservative base. But extreme rightwing rhetoric and policies have driven them to the left...maybe for good

Gays are not going to vote Republican. Republicans say, we don't care, less than 5% of the population is gay. But gays have families, gays have friends, gays have coworkers who see the Republican witch hunt against gays in our society and say...Thats not fair

The American worker is another natural Conservative. They have traditional American values. But the American worker is suffering. They are having a harder and harder time getting by. Calling workers lazy, looking for handouts, wanting free stuff while offering them trickle down from the one percent is not working for conservatives

Yet all of which you speak about is simply propaganda and people buy the propaganda.

You might believe it to be propaganda. But the members of those affected groups obviously think otherwise

Republicans are making it too easy for Dems to paint them as crazies

I could easily point to any number of news sources that push the war on (insert noun here).

Your second point is spot on.

 

[beretta304]

Sore winners is right. Rightwinger says he just giving republicans advice, when all he is doing is putting on a virtues act and telling Republicans how nasty they are.

Rightwinger has never been one to take serious. His thinking is simplistic and juvenile. Predictable too as will be evidenced when he says that my post proves that Republicans are the nastier ones. What he misses is the fact that what I said about him is just the truth.

Care to discuss?

I'll post examples of Republicans being nasty that cost them votes and you can do the same for Democrats

1. Mitts 47% of Americans are lazy and looking for government handouts
2. Rush Limbaughs Sandra Fluke is a slut
3. Akins and Mourdocks views on rape victims
4. Republican bills on immigration reform (Arizona and Alabama) and English as an official language
5. Republican opposition to gay marriage and DADT
6. Birthers

Your turn

So you get to define "nasty"? It doesn't matter. I have no real desire to discuss anything with you. I've tried in the past. I'd prefer to beat my head against a concrete wall. It's better than trying to reason with you.

 

[rightwinger]

Rightwinger has never been one to take serious. His thinking is simplistic and juvenile. Predictable too as will be evidenced when he says that my post proves that Republicans are the nastier ones. What he misses is the fact that what I said about him is just the truth.

Care to discuss?

I'll post examples of Republicans being nasty that cost them votes and you can do the same for Democrats

1. Mitts 47% of Americans are lazy and looking for government handouts
2. Rush Limbaughs Sandra Fluke is a slut
3. Akins and Mourdocks views on rape victims
4. Republican bills on immigration reform (Arizona and Alabama) and English as an official language
5. Republican opposition to gay marriage and DADT
6. Birthers

Your turn

So you get to define "nasty"? It doesn't matter. I have no real desire to discuss anything with you. I've tried in the past. I'd prefer to beat my head against a concrete wall. It's better than trying to reason with you.

To support my view,I've offered concrete examples of where Republican statements and policies have alienated voters

You have been whining that "Democrats do it too"

I note that you are unable to support your position. Run away my friend

 

[Mac1958]

Republicans are making it too easy for Dems to paint them as crazies

And that pretty much describes the 2012 elections.

The questions are if, and if so how quickly, the GOP can fumigate and marginalize the people who are causing this. While many in the party see the problem and want to at least change the messaging (if not the message itself), the loudest in the party are doubling down.

When the people who are supplying most of the energy are causing the problem, that's a real "rock and a hard place" situation.

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[beretta304]

Care to discuss?

I'll post examples of Republicans being nasty that cost them votes and you can do the same for Democrats

1. Mitts 47% of Americans are lazy and looking for government handouts
2. Rush Limbaughs Sandra Fluke is a slut
3. Akins and Mourdocks views on rape victims
4. Republican bills on immigration reform (Arizona and Alabama) and English as an official language
5. Republican opposition to gay marriage and DADT
6. Birthers

Your turn

So you get to define "nasty"? It doesn't matter. I have no real desire to discuss anything with you. I've tried in the past. I'd prefer to beat my head against a concrete wall. It's better than trying to reason with you.

To support my view,I've offered concrete examples of where Republican statements and policies have alienated voters

You have been whining that "Democrats do it too"

I note that you are unable to support your position. Run away my friend

Yeah and I'll ask how high when you tell me to jump too!

 

[rightwinger]

So you get to define "nasty"? It doesn't matter. I have no real desire to discuss anything with you. I've tried in the past. I'd prefer to beat my head against a concrete wall. It's better than trying to reason with you.

To support my view,I've offered concrete examples of where Republican statements and policies have alienated voters

You have been whining that "Democrats do it too"

I note that you are unable to support your position. Run away my friend

Yeah and I'll ask how high when you tell me to jump too!

When the going gets tough...

The sackless run away

 

[beretta304]

To support my view,I've offered concrete examples of where Republican statements and policies have alienated voters

You have been whining that "Democrats do it too"

I note that you are unable to support your position. Run away my friend

Yeah and I'll ask how high when you tell me to jump too!

When the going gets tough...

The sackless run away

Then you must be exhausted.



Actress Stacey Dash Endorses Romney, Nastiness Ensues On Twitter


Actress Stacey Dash, of "Clueless" fame, had the courage to come out and endorse Mitt Romney. Not an easy thing to do, considering her profession. She posted on her Twitter account:



“Vote for Romney. The only choice for your future. @mittromney @teamromney #mittromney #VOTE #voteromney”


This enraged many of her fans and Twitter followers who started with a barrage of nasty comments, including offensive racial epithets. Like Barack Obama Dash is bi-racial. From News Busters, here is some of the nastiness coming from the oh-so-tolerant, liberal Obama supporters.


"Kill yaself you old hag,” tweeted someone named Briggs Marley. His sentiments were echoed by several other bastions of tolerance.
Another genius calling himself Sherrick W. denounced Dash as “an indoor slave.” He was replying back to someone named @HelloItsBeyonce who had also used racial slurs to attack the actress: “You ready to head back to the fields, jiggaboo?” the person had said, using an offensive racial slur referring to dark-skinned black Americans. Someone calling herself @ASvpFeefa blasted Dash using another racial slur: “TYPICAL OREO .. Voting for a white devil. #SICK”

 

[NoNukes]

You may see consecutive Democratic administrations. Especially if Hillary runs.

Hillary may seem like the obvious choice right now. But I don't think she will be around in 2016.

Hillary seems to be burned out in politics. Running for President takes alot of energy, especially in a wide open field

As she gets older, Hillary is also getting more skanky looking. It is not fair, but I think women are held to a different standard of personal appearance than men. In the last year, she has looked more frumpy in her face, hair and dress. I don't think the next four years will be kind to her

I believe that she is stepping down as Secretary of State to rest and prepare for a run for the White House. I recently had dinner with a friend of works in the State Department and knows Hillary and he is sure that she will run.

 

[beretta304]

To support my view,I've offered concrete examples of where Republican statements and policies have alienated voters

You have been whining that "Democrats do it too"

I note that you are unable to support your position. Run away my friend

Yeah and I'll ask how high when you tell me to jump too!

When the going gets tough...

The sackless run away

In one of the nastiest put-downs I’ve seen, a condescending Obama tells Hillary she’s “likable enough.” This is the same man who later cracked a joke that quite obviously called his female political opponent a pig. Generally, Obama doesn’t seem comfortable around women. In the White House, he’s subservient to them; on the road, condescending.

Maxine Waters states her devout wish that the Tea Party go “straight to Hell.”

Barack Obama thinks highly of ordinary Americans and the way they respond to economic hard times: “And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

Despite their secularism, Democrats aren’t above citing God when it suits them. Jennifer Granholm, for example, looking at the weather system heading towards Florida, tweets “R convention delay due to Isaac: I guess God has ways to shut that whole thing down.”

When it comes to mean (and profoundly racist), no one beats the Democrats’ own Rep. Pete Stark:

In August 1990, Stark drew controversy for calling Health and Human Services Secretary Louis Wade Sullivan, an African American, “a disgrace to his race” for supporting Bush Administration policies that Stark called “bankrupt and damaging to minority members.” Stark was criticizing Sullivan’s opposition to proposals for federally sponsored national health insurance when Stark had introduced legislation for national health insurance at the time, and said that Sullivan had been influenced by George H. W. Bush administration officials such as Office of Management and Budget Director Richard Darman and White House Chief of Staff John H. Sununu to change his positions on both abortion and health care. Sullivan angrily retorted, “I don’t live on Pete Stark’s plantation”, and replied in a statement, saying in part, “I guess I should feel ashamed because Congressman Stark thinks I am not a ‘good Negro.’ As a Cabinet member who has spent almost four decades of my life dedicated to healing,… am unable to express my own views without being subject to race-based criticism by those who are not ready to accept independent thinking by a black man.” Stark later apologized for the controversy.

In May 2004, Stark responded to a constituent Army National Guard member’s letter critical of Stark’s recent vote on the war in Iraq by immediately calling the service member’s telephone and leaving a feisty response on voicemail which was later broadcast on San Francisco’s talk radio station KSFO. Stark’s harsh voicemail was transcribed as follows:

Dan, this is Congressman Pete Stark, and I just got your fax. And you don’t know what you’re talking about. So if you care about enlisted people, you wouldn’t have voted for that thing either. But probably somebody put you up to this, and I’m not sure who it was, but I doubt if you could spell half the words in the letter, and somebody wrote it for you. So I don’t pay much attention to it. But I’ll call you back later and let you tell me more about why you think you’re such a great goddamn hero and why you think that this generals [sic] and the Defense Department, who forced these poor enlisted guys to do what they did, shouldn’t be held to account. That’s the issue. So if you want to stick it to a bunch of enlisted guys, have your way. But if you want to get to the bottom of people who forced this awful program in Iraq, then you should understand more about it than you obviously do. Thanks.

On October 18, 2007, Stark made the following comments on the House floor during a debate with Congressman Joe Barton of Texas: “Republicans sure don’t care about finding $200 billion to fight the illegal war in Iraq. Where are you going to get that money? Are you going to tell us lies like you’re telling us today? Is that how you’re going to fund the war? You don’t have money to fund the war or children. But you’re going to spend it to blow up innocent people if we can get enough kids to grow old enough for you to send to Iraq to get their heads blown off for the President’s amusement.” Following the initial criticism to his statements, when asked by a radio station if he would take back any of his statements, Stark responded “Absolutely not. I may have dishonored the Commander-in-Chief, but I think he’s done pretty well to dishonor himself without any help from me.”[35] The same day, his office also issued a press release, saying in part, “I have nothing but respect for our brave men and women in uniform and wish them the very best. But I respect neither the Commander-in-Chief who keeps them in harms [sic] way nor the chickenhawks in Congress who vote to deny children health care.” Five days later on October 23, after the House voted down a censure resolution against Stark sponsored by Minority Leader John Boehner, he said, “I apologize for this reason: I think we have serious issues before us, the issue of providing medical care to children, the issue about what we’re going to do about a war that we’re divided about how to end.”

Other controversies include singling out “Jewish colleagues” for blame for the Persian Gulf War and referring to Congressman Stephen Solarz of New York (who co-sponsored the Gulf War Authorization Act) as “Field Marshal Solarz in the pro-Israel forces.” in 1991.[38] In 1995, during a private meeting with Congresswoman Nancy Johnson of Connecticut, he called Johnson a “whore for the insurance industry” and suggested that her knowledge of health care came solely from “pillow talk” with her husband, a physician. His press secretary, Caleb Marshall, defended him in saying, “He didn’t call her a ‘whore,’ he called her a ‘whore of the insurance industry.’”[38] In a 2001 Ways and Means Subcommittee on Health hearing on abstinence promotion, he referred to Congressman J. C. Watts of Oklahoma as “the current Republican Conference Chairman, whose children were all born out of wedlock.”[38] In 2003, when Stark was told to “shut up” by Congressman Scott McInnis of Colorado during a Ways and Means Committee meeting due to Stark’s belittling of the chairman, Bill Thomas of California, he replied, “You think you are big enough to make me, you little wimp? Come on. Come over here and make me, I dare you. You little fruitcake.”

In an older video taped interview with Jan Helfeld concerning the size of the national debt, Stark stated that the size of the national debt is a reflection of the nation’s wealth. When pressed if the nation should take on more debt in order to have more wealth, Stark threatened Helfeld and said, “You get the fuck out of here or I’ll throw you out the window.”

On August 27, 2009, Stark suggested that his moderate Democratic colleagues were “brain dead” for proposing changes to the health care reform bill being considered by Congress. Saying that they “just want to cause trouble,” Stark claimed, “they’re for the most part, I hate to say, brain dead, but they’re just looking to raise money from insurance companies and promote a right-wing agenda that is not really very useful in this whole process” during a conference call.

The San Francisco Chronicle editorialized on Stark, “Only a politician who assumes he has a job for life could behave so badly on a semi-regular basis by spewing personalized invective that might get him punched in certain East Bay taverns. Would-be challengers sometimes sense a whiff of opportunity, but the reality of taking on a 16-term Democrat in solidly liberal terrain is nothing short of daunting. Surely there must be someone along the shoreline between Alameda and Fremont who could represent the good citizens of the district with class and dignity. It’s not the case now.”

During a town hall meeting, a constituent who opposed Barack Obama’s health care plan told Stark, “Mr. Congressman, don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining.” Stark responded with, “I wouldn’t dignify you by peeing on your leg. It wouldn’t be worth wasting the urine.”