Why Democrats Are in Trouble

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    "Barack Obama won because he recognized a new America." Or maybe an America more fluid, more insubstantial than post-election wisdom is ready to grant. You can't always tell about "new" -- a truth the human race rarely acknowledges.

    We'll see whether James Carville's and Stan Greenberg's words from a Democracy Corps survey stand up better than the consensus of November 1965, following the Lyndon Johnson-led slaughter of almost every Republican downwind from Barry Goldwater. Johnson, father of the Great Society, was all but run out of Washington on a rail after mucking up the Vietnam War.

    Meanwhile, as everyone these days seems to know, the unstoppable alliance of unmarried women, young people, Hispanics and Blacks is set to remake America: the minute Americans agree on what a remade America ought to look like.

    "There's many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip" is the indicated adage for now, notwithstanding that polls such as Carville's and Greenberg's seem to confirm the birth of a new alliance committed to wealth redistribution and big government.

    The so-called "Rising American Electorate" appears to hanker for, among other things, larger investments in education, "protection" of Social Security and Medicare and fairness for women. Thomas B. Edsall, in the New York Times, calls attention to a Pew Research Center poll showing rising support for socialism as the remedy for capitalism.

    Yes, yes, fine. Let's see how it all works out. To put it another way: Let's see what works out in practice and not just post-campaign rhetoric. The instant temptation, from the conservative side, is to go all weepy at such news. I would counsel resistance to such temptation: this, for a couple of reasons.

    Republicans need to cheer up. It always hurts to lose a vital election: for instance, the one immediately past. And yet to victors sometimes belongs something more depressing than spoils; namely, the obligation to make good on lame, idiotic promises. Might we hold the national obituaries pending proof that the 2012 outcome was the will of the gods?


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    ...so Republicans apparently needing to be more cheerful means the Democrats are in trouble... because?
     
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    LOL We lost but the other guys will lose more! Huh! Tell that to the teams on Sunday when they lose, tell that to the person working for a raise, tell that to the sweating grunt passed over for promotion. What BS.

    "Logic, like whiskey, loses its beneficial effect when taken in too large quantities." Dunsany
     
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    If I'm reading this correctly, the writer is saying (1) it's okay that we lost, the other guys will screw up anyway, and (2) we don't need to change anything, the electorate will like us more next time. I'm inferring, of course.

    Yikes. Don't know if that's a great strategy.

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    Gad, read, what the author is saying is that LBJ won in a landslide, four years later did not run because he mucked it up. What is going to happen four years from now when nothing is better and Obamatax has taken full force?

    Myself, I think nothing will change. The takers exceed the makers with a small percentage in the middle. and I don't see that changing except for the worse. The takers, and I don't blame them, will vote for the party they BELIEVE has their best interest at heart. The democrats have definitely won the propaganda war, hats off to them. To get people to believe that we need four more years of what we have had for the last four is quite impressive. We all whine about Washington yet we keep sending the same people back. No punishment at all for failed policy and we expect something else, lunacy.
     
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    Which is why with all the candidates out there... already I read and hear the talk about Hillary.


    Is there no better qualified Democrat than she?
     
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    And yet old folks today still have Medicare.
     
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    It isn't about her they want Bill back in the WH. Somehow they believe that he did something great. He is the one that started the outsourcing of jobs with his "free" trade agreements. Yet either the left forgot or just runs from the truth. Clinton not taking action when we were attacked overseas, and actually running away emboldened those who perpetrated 9/11. Planned entirely on Clinton's watch yet do you hear one 9/11er ever give him ONE ounce of the blame?

    The real bottom line is that the propaganda machine of the democrats is much better then that of the Republicans. Just stating the facts as they stand isn't good enough. What did Obama actually run his campaign on? A continuous attack on Romney. He had the perfect opportunity to divide the country and used the election to do so.

    In my opinion the whole Obama campaign can be summed up as follows.

    1. "No one cares" (Benghazi, the economy, unemployment, devaluation of the dollar...etc)

    2. " It's not may fault" (anything bad that happened)

    3. "Romney is rich" (verse the electorate who are not and never will be so let's attack the rich except Obama and Soros)
     
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    And yet Greenbeard still has Non-sequiturs.
     
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    Bill does seem to be the "draw".
     

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