Why Democrats Are in Trouble

[Freewill]

Beretta304, stop it.

Let's worry about the GOP, and leave the dems to themselves.

We have enough work fixing ourselves without bothering the party that won the WH and increased their senate lead and added to Dems in the House.

Bravo.

I can't speak for Beretta, but there are many within the party who are absolutely convinced that there is nothing to "fix". That's your challenge going forward.

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The only fix jake thinks, and probably you is to become democrats, no way I would rather lose elections then to belittle the party. Besides, what really changed after the election? Rs still control the house and the dems have control of the Senate without a filibuster majority. Nothing changed no reason to become as them.

 

[beretta304]

Hillary Clinton is not going to run. She's done. A Hillary comeback is wishful thinking.

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At least someone takes off their rose colored glasses once in a while and faces reality. She's done. Just like the GOP, the Democrats need new blood as well. The country is tired of Bush and Clinton.

Obama got elected by his own hand not by anything BJ said. Clinton was good showmanship for the convention but he didn't draw any voters that wouldn't have likely voted for Obama anyway.

 

[beretta304]

Then you must be exhausted.



Actress Stacey Dash Endorses Romney, Nastiness Ensues On Twitter


Actress Stacey Dash, of "Clueless" fame, had the courage to come out and endorse Mitt Romney. Not an easy thing to do, considering her profession. She posted on her Twitter account:



“Vote for Romney. The only choice for your future. @mittromney @teamromney #mittromney #VOTE #voteromney”


This enraged many of her fans and Twitter followers who started with a barrage of nasty comments, including offensive racial epithets. Like Barack Obama Dash is bi-racial. From News Busters, here is some of the nastiness coming from the oh-so-tolerant, liberal Obama supporters.


"Kill yaself you old hag,” tweeted someone named Briggs Marley. His sentiments were echoed by several other bastions of tolerance.
Another genius calling himself Sherrick W. denounced Dash as “an indoor slave.” He was replying back to someone named @HelloItsBeyonce who had also used racial slurs to attack the actress: “You ready to head back to the fields, jiggaboo?” the person had said, using an offensive racial slur referring to dark-skinned black Americans. Someone calling herself @ASvpFeefa blasted Dash using another racial slur: “TYPICAL OREO .. Voting for a white devil. #SICK”

So far...you lose

I referenced major players and policies pushed by Republicans which cost them contituencies in the 2012 election

You counter with some anonymous internet quotes that had no impact on the election

Try to keep up...will ya?

He is incapable of keeping up with you, as you see from his reply to this post.

A turtle walking backwards could keep up with your pea-sized brainpower.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I think a greater chance will be the emergence of Chelsea Clinton as a candidate, maybe for a seat in the HoR.

On point however, until those on the right engage in a little self examination, they can expect greater losses for the GOP in 2014; that is, of course, if the Democrats don't overreach. I would hope that the leadership in the house on both sides of the aisle have learned a lesson, a hope I don't have for the leaders in the Senate.

 

[Mac1958]

Beretta304, stop it.

Let's worry about the GOP, and leave the dems to themselves.

We have enough work fixing ourselves without bothering the party that won the WH and increased their senate lead and added to Dems in the House.

Bravo.

I can't speak for Beretta, but there are many within the party who are absolutely convinced that there is nothing to "fix". That's your challenge going forward.

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The only fix jake thinks, and probably you is to become democrats, no way I would rather lose elections then to belittle the party. Besides, what really changed after the election? Rs still control the house and the dems have control of the Senate without a filibuster majority. Nothing changed no reason to become as them.

We can go back and forth about where the GOP should stand on the issues, but I'd think the first thing that should be examined is the way the message is being delivered. We have some in the GOP screaming "Nazi socialist Marxist commie" at every opportunity, others making absurd and unnecessary comments about rape and pregnancy, others essentially ignoring the burgeoning minority vote, and still others shoving "pledges" into the faces of their representatives, threatening to "primary" them if they are so crazy and un-American as to actually work with the other side.

As was said earlier, the GOP is making it too easy for the Dems to paint them as crazies, and that's even before we get deep into the issues.

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[rightwinger]

So far...you lose

I referenced major players and policies pushed by Republicans which cost them contituencies in the 2012 election

You counter with some anonymous internet quotes that had no impact on the election

Try to keep up...will ya?

He is incapable of keeping up with you, as you see from his reply to this post.

And because you put your 2 cents in on an issue that rightwinger and I have had some some time, you're an expert to be taken seriously. Get lost, clown.

You and I have had an issue for some time?

Damn....news to me

 

[beretta304]

Beretta304, stop it.

Let's worry about the GOP, and leave the dems to themselves.

We have enough work fixing ourselves without bothering the party that won the WH and increased their senate lead and added to Dems in the House.

Bravo.

I can't speak for Beretta, but there are many within the party who are absolutely convinced that there is nothing to "fix". That's your challenge going forward.

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Correct, I can speak for myself and speaking to Jake is worse than speaking to rightwinger so by choice, I choose to speak to neither.


Now that we cleared that up....

 

[beretta304]

He is incapable of keeping up with you, as you see from his reply to this post.

And because you put your 2 cents in on an issue that rightwinger and I have had some some time, you're an expert to be taken seriously. Get lost, clown.

You and I have had an issue for some time?

Damn....news to me

Lying is another characteristic you seem to embrace. How about the whining you used to do when I didn't agree with you. Add the complaining you did when I refused to reply to you...JUST LIKE EARLIER IN THIS VERY THREAD. Are you really this dense?

So let's end it here and now.

I don't like you politically and personally. You're petty, juvenile and not nearly as astute as you think that you are. You're a simpleton who only engages people with the hope that ultimately you can start insulting them. Then when your troll pals join in, you're just delighted and you hit the thanks button as if you had the DTs and couldn't control your trigger finger.

You "win" remember? Winning is what you mistakenly think that you are here for.




Now as I said before and call me whatever names you chose, then...FUCK OFF!

 

[rightwinger]

Beretta304, stop it.

Let's worry about the GOP, and leave the dems to themselves.

We have enough work fixing ourselves without bothering the party that won the WH and increased their senate lead and added to Dems in the House.

Bravo.

I can't speak for Beretta, but there are many within the party who are absolutely convinced that there is nothing to "fix". That's your challenge going forward.

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Correct, I can speak for myself and speaking to Jake is worse than speaking to rightwinger so by choice, I choose to speak to neither.


Now that we cleared that up....

La....La...La
I can't hear you

Good comeback there

 

[JakeStarkey]

beretta304 is an incompetent fool.

We lost because of ourselves not because Obama was the better candidate.

The far right and libertarian wings better step off and be good little followers this time.

 

[beretta304]

Bravo.

I can't speak for Beretta, but there are many within the party who are absolutely convinced that there is nothing to "fix". That's your challenge going forward.

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Correct, I can speak for myself and speaking to Jake is worse than speaking to rightwinger so by choice, I choose to speak to neither.


Now that we cleared that up....

La....La...La
I can't hear you

Good comeback there

See post # 68. # 69 is just the confirm" of what # 68 alledges.

 

[rightwinger]

And because you put your 2 cents in on an issue that rightwinger and I have had some some time, you're an expert to be taken seriously. Get lost, clown.

You and I have had an issue for some time?

Damn....news to me

Lying is another characteristic you seem to embrace. How about the whining you used to do when I didn't agree with you. Add the complaining you did when I refused to reply to you...JUST LIKE EARLIER IN THIS VERY THREAD. Are you really this dense?

So let's end it here and now.

I don't like you politically and personally. You're petty, juvenile and not nearly as astute as you think that you are. You're a simpleton who only engages people with the hope that ultimately you can start insulting them. Then when your troll pals join in, you're just delighted and you hit the thanks button as if you had the DTs and couldn't control your trigger finger.

You "win" remember? Winning is what you mistakenly think that you are here for.




Now as I said before and call me whatever names you chose, then...FUCK OFF!

Awwww...does that mean no Christmas card this year?

 

[Katzndogz]

The GOP is in disarray and will be for a while, until we stomp down the far right weirdos. Once that is done, we will going to looking for candidates the caliber of Jon Huntsman.

That's it, candidates that will split the democratic vote because republicans won't vote for them. After all, republicans didn't have candidates the caliber of Jon Huntsman, they had the actual Jon Huntsman! Why did he fail as a republican candidate? He's too liberal! If republicans did alienate the vast majority of republicans by a Jon Huntsman candidate it would do nothing but split the democrat vote and possibly allow a third party win as republicans abandoned the party. You would not get a Jon Huntsman, possibly a Rick Santorum, but not a Jon Huntsman.

 

[Freewill]

Bravo.

I can't speak for Beretta, but there are many within the party who are absolutely convinced that there is nothing to "fix". That's your challenge going forward.

.

The only fix jake thinks, and probably you is to become democrats, no way I would rather lose elections then to belittle the party. Besides, what really changed after the election? Rs still control the house and the dems have control of the Senate without a filibuster majority. Nothing changed no reason to become as them.

We can go back and forth about where the GOP should stand on the issues, but I'd think the first thing that should be examined is the way the message is being delivered. We have some in the GOP screaming "Nazi socialist Marxist commie" at every opportunity, others making absurd and unnecessary comments about rape and pregnancy, others essentially ignoring the burgeoning minority vote, and still others shoving "pledges" into the faces of their representatives, threatening to "primary" them if they are so crazy and un-American as to actually work with the other side.

As was said earlier, the GOP is making it too easy for the Dems to paint them as crazies, and that's even before we get deep into the issues.

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WHO, WHO in the Republcian party is screaming "Nazi socialist Marxist commie?" Not some internet bloggers but someone actually working for or in the Republican party.

No, the only thing that will satisfy some is that Republican become as democrats, to that I say "nuts."

 

[beretta304]

You and I have had an issue for some time?

Damn....news to me

Lying is another characteristic you seem to embrace. How about the whining you used to do when I didn't agree with you. Add the complaining you did when I refused to reply to you...JUST LIKE EARLIER IN THIS VERY THREAD. Are you really this dense?

So let's end it here and now.

I don't like you politically and personally. You're petty, juvenile and not nearly as astute as you think that you are. You're a simpleton who only engages people with the hope that ultimately you can start insulting them. Then when your troll pals join in, you're just delighted and you hit the thanks button as if you had the DTs and couldn't control your trigger finger.

You "win" remember? Winning is what you mistakenly think that you are here for.




Now as I said before and call me whatever names you chose, then...FUCK OFF!

Awwww...does that mean no Christmas card this year?

From me to you with best wishes....

Ignore List
JakeStarkey

rightwinger


The only two on ignore since I removed any others after the election.



Proving that you can't give some people, not all, a second chance and that first intuition is usually correct.

 

[g5000]

The right is overflowing with people who keep returning to the same well of piss over and over and over. They never get mad at the hypocrites who lie to them. This is some kind of weird idol worship going on.

Obama's death panels, Obama creating a web site to give gifts to immigrants, Obama watching from a drone as Ambassador Stevens was killed. A never ending stream of lies from the same sources time and time and time again.

As long as the false idols say bad things about the other false idol Obama, then whatever those idols say must be right and honest and true. Even after being shown countless times the idols are lying and being hypocritical, the worshippers STILL return to the piss well.

They can no longer tell what is true or false any more. If it is what they want to believe and what they want to hear, it is true for them.


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[beretta304]

The right is overflowing with people who keep returning to the same well of piss over and over and over. They never get mad at the hypocrites who lie to them. This is some kind of weird idol worship going on.

Obama's death panels, Obama creating a web site to give gifts to immigrants, Obama watching from a drone as Ambassador Stevens was killed. A never ending stream of lies from the same sources time and time and time again.

As long as the false idols say bad things about the other false idol Obama, then whatever those idols say must be right and honest and true. Even after being shown countless times the idols are lying and being hypocritical, the worshippers STILL return to the piss well.

They can no longer tell what is true or false any more. If it is what they want to believe and what they want to hear, it is true for them.


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"I never had sex with that woman"!

 

[Wry Catcher]

Bravo.

I can't speak for Beretta, but there are many within the party who are absolutely convinced that there is nothing to "fix". That's your challenge going forward.

.

The only fix jake thinks, and probably you is to become democrats, no way I would rather lose elections then to belittle the party. Besides, what really changed after the election? Rs still control the house and the dems have control of the Senate without a filibuster majority. Nothing changed no reason to become as them.

We can go back and forth about where the GOP should stand on the issues, but I'd think the first thing that should be examined is the way the message is being delivered. We have some in the GOP screaming "Nazi socialist Marxist commie" at every opportunity, others making absurd and unnecessary comments about rape and pregnancy, others essentially ignoring the burgeoning minority vote, and still others shoving "pledges" into the faces of their representatives, threatening to "primary" them if they are so crazy and un-American as to actually work with the other side.

As was said earlier, the GOP is making it too easy for the Dems to paint them as crazies, and that's even before we get deep into the issues.

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Spot on. One might add that the Independents who fled the GOP and Libertarians who fled the GOP fail to speak out against the kooks you've mentioned.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The right is overflowing with people who keep returning to the same well of piss over and over and over. They never get mad at the hypocrites who lie to them. This is some kind of weird idol worship going on.

Obama's death panels, Obama creating a web site to give gifts to immigrants, Obama watching from a drone as Ambassador Stevens was killed. A never ending stream of lies from the same sources time and time and time again.

As long as the false idols say bad things about the other false idol Obama, then whatever those idols say must be right and honest and true. Even after being shown countless times the idols are lying and being hypocritical, the worshippers STILL return to the piss well.

They can no longer tell what is true or false any more. If it is what they want to believe and what they want to hear, it is true for them.


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"I never had sex with that woman"!

If you're going to quote someone get it right; if you're speaking in the first person please excuse the observation.

 

[rightwinger]

The only fix jake thinks, and probably you is to become democrats, no way I would rather lose elections then to belittle the party. Besides, what really changed after the election? Rs still control the house and the dems have control of the Senate without a filibuster majority. Nothing changed no reason to become as them.

We can go back and forth about where the GOP should stand on the issues, but I'd think the first thing that should be examined is the way the message is being delivered. We have some in the GOP screaming "Nazi socialist Marxist commie" at every opportunity, others making absurd and unnecessary comments about rape and pregnancy, others essentially ignoring the burgeoning minority vote, and still others shoving "pledges" into the faces of their representatives, threatening to "primary" them if they are so crazy and un-American as to actually work with the other side.

As was said earlier, the GOP is making it too easy for the Dems to paint them as crazies, and that's even before we get deep into the issues.

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WHO, WHO in the Republcian party is screaming "Nazi socialist Marxist commie?" Not some internet bloggers but someone actually working for or in the Republican party.

No, the only thing that will satisfy some is that Republican become as democrats, to that I say "nuts."

Rep Allen West

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...re-communists/2012/04/11/gIQApbZiAT_blog.html

When a questioner asked West about Marxists in “the American legislature,” some in the crowd jeered, but West took a different approach.

“No, it’s a good question,” he said, adding: “I believe there is about 78 to 81 members of the Democratic Party that are members of the Communist Party.”

After a long pause, West adds that he is talking about the Congressional Progressive Caucus, a group of 76 of the more liberal Democrats in the U.S. House.