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The Inquisition which resulted in devastation of many communities mostly in Spain,Nothing “legalizes genocide”.
Do you use a scapegoat or no? How do you atone for sins?
Gen 37:35Can you show me, in the canonical texts of Jewish law and practice, any information about She'ol that supports your claims? I can provide links to all sorts of books that would be acceptable. Let me know, please.
All you have done is cite verses that make reference to the concept of Sh'ol. None of these explains anything that would defend any of your claims nor is any of these a statement of belief of Judaism as a religion so you have failed in supporting what you said. Want to try again? Remember, your claim was in post 91 asGen 37:35
Gen 44:29
1 Kings 2:9
Psalm 18:5
Proverb 1:12
Proverb 30:16
Ezekiel 31:15
Jonah 2:2
Job 7:9
Psalm 6:5
Isaiah 14:9
Num 16:33
1 Sam 2:6
Job 24:19
Isaiah 14:15
Luke 16:19-21
Those few taken up to heaven:
2 Kings 2:11-12. (Elijah taken up to Heaven)
Gen 5:22-24 (Enoch was taken by God)
Also, Revelation tells us after the final judgement Death and Hades (Sheol) itself will be thrown into a lake of fire for the second death. (Rev 20:14)
I don’t care about links to “all sorts of books”.
If you can’t cite the Tanakh then you got nothing.
Sheol was divided into two areas. The good people went to Abraham’s bosom (where they were embraced by Abraham himself), the bad went to “the place or torment”, separated by a chasm.
sheeeesh, Rosends----the HAWK'S model sounds interesting----better thanAll you have done is cite verses that make reference to the concept of Sh'ol. None of these explains anything that would defend any of your claims nor is any of these a statement of belief of Judaism as a religion so you have failed in supporting what you said. Want to try again? Remember, your claim was in post 91 as
Which if your referenced verses supports that?
I'm all for creative fiction as long as people understand it is creative fiction.sheeeesh, Rosends----the HAWK'S model sounds interesting----better than
Dante's DIVINE COMEDY
All of my versus support that. The dead go down into Sheol, not up into heaven (with very few exceptions).All you have done is cite verses that make reference to the concept of Sh'ol. None of these explains anything that would defend any of your claims nor is any of these a statement of belief of Judaism as a religion so you have failed in supporting what you said. Want to try again? Remember, your claim was in post 91 as
Which if your referenced verses supports that?
Dante is not scripture nor considered canon by the Church.sheeeesh, Rosends----the HAWK'S model sounds interesting----better than
Dante's DIVINE COMEDY
hawk check the word VERSUSAll of my versus support that. The dead go down into Sheol, not up into heaven (with very few exceptions).
Meanwhile you have listed zero versus in support of…..whatever it is you are claiming, which you are vague about.
SO? actually--IN FACT Dante wrote the Divine comedy to beDante is not scripture nor considered canon by the Church.
The Ramayana is a scriptural writings----do you credit every word therein asDante is not scripture nor considered canon by the Church.
nothing legalizes genocide? so you consider canon law which didNothing “legalizes genocide”.
Do you use a scapegoat or no? How do you atone for sins?
Yes, we know, “Jewish scholarship”, whatever that is at any given moment, believes what it wants, from time to time. When things get ….inconvenient, they dismiss scripture from the Tanakh. You lot have proven that.The Ramayana is a scriptural writings----do you credit every word therein as
a REALITY ? I got bad news for you-----Jewish scholarship does not credit every
word of any book with an ABSOLUTE reality-----if you consider the NT to be a
magical crystal ball----fine with me
The inquisition was merely something set up by church leaders. That does not make them canon law like scriptures. Any Bishop, including the Bishop of Rome (the Pope) can become corrupt. It has no effect on Holy Scripture or our beliefs.nothing legalizes genocide? so you consider canon law which did
legalize the Inquisition to be a pile of dog feces?
Any Bishop, including the Bishop of Rome (the Pope) can become corrupt. It has no effect on Holy Scripture or our beliefs.
So what law should we follow then?... or our beliefs. so true.
it has no "effect" because the scriptures they read is what is corrupt - on nearly every page of all 3 desert documents ...
- provide the etched heavenly tablets w/10 commandments - or remove them from all documents that include them.
wrong again---in FACT none of the writings are ever dismissed---they remain even ifYes, we know, “Jewish scholarship”, whatever that is at any given moment, believes what it wants, from time to time. When things get ….inconvenient, they dismiss scripture from the Tanakh. You lot have proven that.
you are very UNFAMILIAR with Canon law-----IN FACT the Inquisition was LEGALThe inquisition was merely something set up by church leaders. That does not make them canon law like scriptures. Any Bishop, including the Bishop of Rome (the Pope) can become corrupt. It has no effect on Holy Scripture or our beliefs.
Except your verse references don't indicate that. In fact, they indicate that the concept of "going down to Sh'ol" is rather rare, invoked only in particular cases.All of my versus support that. The dead go down into Sheol, not up into heaven (with very few exceptions).
I don't have to post anything to support anything. I am asking you to support your claims and so far, you can't. The burden is on you.Meanwhile you have listed zero versus in support of…..whatever it is you are claiming, which you are vague about.
In other words you have nothing to counter what I said.I don't have to post anything to support anything. I am asking you to support your claims and so far, you can't. The burden is on you.
Except that I went through over a third of what you claimed a support and showed how it didn't operate as support so your claim fails.In other words you have nothing to counter what I said.
It is a Hebrew word with a very curious etymology. The simplest explanation is that it is related to sh-a-l meaning "question" or "uncertainty" because it represents separation from the certainty of the divine. It is translated as "pit" (which it isn't exactly) or "grave" (which it isn't). Here is some informationCan you tell us what Sheol is then? You claim to be a Rabbi. Why not teach us? Odd that you refuse to.
jewishlink.news
www.sefaria.org
You said that "The dead go down into Sheol" except that textually, very few of the dead go down to Sh'ol and some go down alive. So those verses refute your claim.Saying that the text I provided only pertains to “one situation“ does not refute my statement, they all support it.
Except that this isn't how Jews saw death. I find it funny that you try to instruct about something of which you are woefully ignorant.Just because some of the text don’t describe an actual death, and just a hypothetical, doesn’t detract from the fact that this is how the Jews saw death and Sheol.
some light readingSo once again, I say you tell us what Sheol is, or the afterlife, and back it up with text.
judaism.stackexchange.com
www.beezrathashem.org
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org
