Was Viktor Shokin actually corrupt? The media and Biden say yes but where is the evidence?

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Everyone points to the rest of the world and claims that Biden was essentially the worlds spokesperson as appointed by Obama.

Problem is where is the evidence he was actually corrupt? According to recent news reports the man has NEVER been charged with anything related to corruption. Nor has he any previous convictions along those lines.

He was investigating Burisma and freezing their assets which is the company Bidens son worked for. That is when the whole world supposedly realized he was corrupt.

So, where is the evidence of corruption? And no, so and so says is not evidence. So list the actual people/companies that accused him of bribing or extorting from them. REAL ACCUSATIONS not post Biden quid pro quo cover up accusations ment to give Sleepy Joe cover.


This should be a simple task if in fact he is/was corrupt.

Why are you promoting Russian propaganda about Shokin? SHOKIN WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS NOT PROSECUTING BURISMA.

Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance

The inside story of Ukraine’s ‘very good’ prosecutor at the centre of Trump's latest scandal

If you really did want to find out the truth, you could have googled it too.

"SHOKIN WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS NOT PROSECUTING BURISMA."

Funny you said that. Shortly after he was fired, investigation into Burisma was officially closed.

She is proof that the fake media has motive to promote fake news.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

So, no proof.

You are eager to be a useful tool apparently.

The request is a simple one...

This is not a math problem so demanding proof is akin to putting your hands over your ears and yelling "I can't hear you" as loud as you can. In the real world there are no 'proofs', only evidence, which you can choose to ignore if you prefer ignorance.

Ok, cite the evidence. I'm all ears

 

[alang1216]

Ok, cite the evidence. I'm all ears

After graduating from the Kharkiv Law Institute (today Yaroslav Mudryi National Law University) in 1980, Shokin worked for the Prosecutor General Office as investigator until 2001. In an interview with Ukrayinska Pravda he stated that he was forced to retire in 2001 after refusing to take on the case against Yulia Tymoshenko.[3]

Shokin was appointed Prosecutor General of Ukraine on 10 February 2015, replacing Vitaly Yarema.[4] He was a controversial appointee due to his perceived role in blocking prosecutions against those accused of shooting demonstrators in the 2014 Ukrainian revolution.[5] As Prosecutor General, he was accused of blocking major cases against allies and influential figures and hindering the fight against corruption in Ukraine.[6]

Various street protests demanding Shokin's resignation were held.[7][8][9] On 2 November 2015, there was an assassination attempt against him when an unidentified sniper fired three shots into his office, but was foiled by the bulletproof glass window.[10] In response to a query from Ukrainian News Agency in late 2019, the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) acknowledged that it is continuing to investigate the attempted assassination of Shokin.[11] In March 2016 his office carried out a raid against one of Ukraine's leading anti-corruption groups, the Anti-Corruption Action Center (AntAC), claiming that it had misappropriated aid money.[9] AntAC was a frequent critic of the Prosecutor General's Office under Shokin.[12] In one notorious case, two of Shokin's prosecutors were caught with stashes of diamonds, cash and valuables in their homes, likely indicating bribery. Prosecutors from another department of Shokin's office were fired or reassigned when they attempted to bring a prosecution against the so-called "diamond prosecutors".[13]

Through 2015 and early 2016, domestic and international pressure (including from the IMF, the EU, and the EBRD) built for Shokin to be removed from office. The Obama administration withheld $1 billion in loan guarantees to pressure the Ukrainian government to remove Shokin from office.[14][15][16] His defenders nonetheless argued that he played an important role "balancing competing political interests".[17] His Deputy Prosecutor, Vitaly Kasko, announced his resignation on 15 February 2016 denouncing the corruption and lawlessness of the Prosecutor's office.[18]

On 16 February 2016, Shokin submitted a letter of resignation,[19] although the next day an official of the prosecution office stated, "As far as I know he has taken a paid leave".[20] On 19 February 2016 presidential press secretary Sviatoslav Tsegolko wrote on Twitter that the presidential administration had received an official letter of resignation from Shokin.[21] On 16 March 2016 an official of the prosecution office stated that Shokin had resumed his work.[4] On 28 March, protesters called for Shokin's firing, after his office was authorized by a Kiev court to investigate AntAC.[9][22] Shokin was formally dismissed in a parliamentary vote on 29 March 2016.[23] The European Union praised Shokin's dismissal due to a "lack of tangible results" of his office's investigations, and also because people in Shokin's office were themselves being investigated.[6]

 

[berg80]

Biden could easily be exonerated of wrong doing by simply providing evidence that the man he targeted was corrupt.

U.S. Embassy Kyiv Ukraine

 

[colfax_m]

Where is the evidence?

Just for comparison, consider the IRS, and how it deals with income tax evasion.

If you report a taxable income of $50k, and are living in a ten-million dollar residence, and have other accessories (cars, clothing, etc) that are consistent with extreme wealth, those possessions and that lifestyle are EVIDENCE that the person's tax filings may be fraudulent.

They are not DEFINITIVE, of course. Further investigation may show that money was inherited, or gifted by a rich uncle, or that the person won a Nobel Prize (which is not income-taxable). But it is EVIDENCE of under-reported income.

And that EVIDENCE warrants closer investigation.

In the instant case, Joe Biden and his son may be completely legitimate, above board, and honest. But the EVIDENCE indicates that something is amiss. The junior Biden has no particular knowledge or expertise in the energy field, he does not speak Russian or Ukrainian, he never attended a board meeting in Ukraine during the YEARS when he was receiving a $50+ thousand a month stipend for being a director of the company, and his only credential appears to be his last name.

And the new Ukrainian government, which ran on a platform of eliminating corruption, is well-positioned to investigate...better positioned, it turns out, than our own Justice Department. So it was entirely appropriate for the President to seek help in investigating this APPARENT corruption by a former U.S. Vice President and his family, although a direct President-toPresident request may not have been the customary vehicle for this request.

And the fact that Joe Biden is running for President doesn't give him a pass - which is apparently the position of the entire Democrat/Leftist universe. They profess to believe that the fact that he's running for President renders President Trump's request a personal, political favor.

Which is, logically, horse shit.

Biden is a lawyer, worked in US government and has served on Amtrak's board. He participated in board meetings that were held outside of Ukraine. I still agree he's got very little CV to support his position on Burisma's board, but let's not claim he was plucked from managing a 7/11 or something.

If Trump thinks there's enough for a corruption investigation, there's no reason he shouldn't be starting domestically. The DoJ has not been involved in any part of this request, as would usually occur. An investigation into Biden would start by gathering testimony from State Dept officials who were a part of Ukrainian policy and an investigation of their tax records and bank records (which is how it worked with Manafort). That never happened. Probably because although Biden may not be qualified, that is not in and of itself sufficiently suspicious to have probable cause a crime was committed.

What you don't do is have the president pursue an investigation with his personal lawyer and hand picked politically appointed ambassadors and request that such an investigation be made public. That would be how you'd operate this scheme if it absolutely was for a personal political favor.

 

[BULLDOG]

You're grabbing at straws. If you insist on not believing facts, there is no need bothering with you.

Asking for proof of a specific accusation is grabbing at straws?

REALLY???

Sounds more like you can not answer the question and so you are moving on because YOU don't want to see/hear/face the possibility that you've been duped.

You are free to believe that. It fits perfectly with your tunnel vision on Trump's lawlessness.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

On 2 November 2015, there was an assassination attempt against him when an unidentified sniper fired three shots into his office, but was foiled by the bulletproof glass window.[10] In response to a query from Ukrainian News Agency in late 2019, the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) acknowledged that it is continuing to investigate the attempted assassination of Shokin.

I read all you posted and it does seem quite damning but the devil's advocate in me has to ask, that is A LOT of accusations but no substantiated evidence or charges. The man is out of office now so why hasn't he been charged in ANY of those scenarios? And this leads to my second take away. Who would try to assassinate him? Someone who's mad he wasnt doing his job or someone who feared he was?

I definitely have doubts now BUT knowing the depths that corruption goes to it is hard to draw a definitive conclusion based on accusations alone. If he was as those points say he was WHY is he not in jail now?
I'm sure that accusing your political rivals of that which you are guilty of is not exclusive to the United States

 

[Lesh]

You Russian tools really ought to ask GOP Senator Ron Johnson and a bunch of his GOP buddies...because THEY knew Shokin was corrupt.

Ya know who thought Shokin was great?

Putin

 

[Lesh]

Oh wait.

Johnson now "doesn't remember signing the letter demanding Shokin's ouster

GOP senator says he doesn't remember signing 2016 letter urging 'reform' of Ukraine prosecutor's office

But his SIGNATURE is on that letter...as well as those of several other GOP Senators

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You Russian tools

Stopped reading right there.
If you want to be taken seriously stop shitposting like an unhinged freak.

 

[Lesh]

From the Hill

Shokin’s own deputy resigned, according to a report by the Congressional Research Service, because “his efforts to address government corruption had been consistently stymied by his own prosecutor general, Viktor Shokin, as well as other government officials.” Then-Ukraine President Poroshenko, according to the same report, asked for Shokin’s resignation because he was “taking too long to clean up corruption even within the PGO [Prosecutor General’s Office] itself.”

As an example, searches of the homes of two Shokin subordinates unearthed diamonds, cash and other valuables, which suggests that they had been taking bribes. The prosecutors in a department in Shokin’s office who tried to investigate reportedly were fired.

 

[Lesh]

You Russian tools

Stopped reading right there.
If you want to be taken seriously stop shitposting like an unhinged freak.

Fingers in your ears in not an argument.

You're spreading Russian propaganda.

Sorry if pointing that out upsets you. I suggest if that's the case you STOP FUCKING DOING IT

 

[Faun]

Everyone points to the rest of the world and claims that Biden was essentially the worlds spokesperson as appointed by Obama.

Problem is where is the evidence he was actually corrupt? According to recent news reports the man has NEVER been charged with anything related to corruption. Nor has he any previous convictions along those lines.

He was investigating Burisma and freezing their assets which is the company Bidens son worked for. That is when the whole world supposedly realized he was corrupt.

So, where is the evidence of corruption? And no, so and so says is not evidence. So list the actual people/companies that accused him of bribing or extorting from them. REAL ACCUSATIONS not post Biden quid pro quo cover up accusations ment to give Sleepy Joe cover.


This should be a simple task if in fact he is/was corrupt.

His corruption was that he wouldn't prosecute oligarchs. Including the owner of Burisma...

Timeline in Ukraine Probe Casts Doubt on Giuliani’s Biden Claim

After the U.K. request, Ukrainian prosecutors opened their own case, accusing Zlochevsky of embezzling public funds. Burisma and Zlochevsky have denied the allegations.

The case against Zlochevsky and his Burisma Holdings was assigned to Shokin, then a deputy prosecutor. But Shokin and others weren’t pursuing it, according to the internal reports from the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office reviewed by Bloomberg.

In a December 2014 letter, U.S. officials warned Ukrainian prosecutors of negative consequences for Ukraine over its failure to assist the U.K., which had seized Zlochevsky’s assets, according to the documents.

Those funds, $23.5 million, were unblocked in 2015 when a British court determined there wasn’t enough evidence to justify the continued freeze, in part because Ukrainian prosecutors had failed to provide the necessary information.​

 

[alang1216]

I'm sure that accusing your political rivals of that which you are guilty of is not exclusive to the United States

You got that right.

 

[Siete]

consider Gramps a Trump ass pimple.

if he didnt know half of the world wanted Shokin run out of office with a rail up his ass he's too f'n stupid for a legit answer ...... f him.

 

[Faun]

Everyone points to the rest of the world and claims that Biden was essentially the worlds spokesperson as appointed by Obama.

Problem is where is the evidence he was actually corrupt? According to recent news reports the man has NEVER been charged with anything related to corruption. Nor has he any previous convictions along those lines.

He was investigating Burisma and freezing their assets which is the company Bidens son worked for. That is when the whole world supposedly realized he was corrupt.

So, where is the evidence of corruption? And no, so and so says is not evidence. So list the actual people/companies that accused him of bribing or extorting from them. REAL ACCUSATIONS not post Biden quid pro quo cover up accusations ment to give Sleepy Joe cover.


This should be a simple task if in fact he is/was corrupt.

Why are you promoting Russian propaganda about Shokin? SHOKIN WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS NOT PROSECUTING BURISMA.

Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance

The inside story of Ukraine’s ‘very good’ prosecutor at the centre of Trump's latest scandal

If you really did want to find out the truth, you could have googled it too.

"SHOKIN WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS NOT PROSECUTING BURISMA."

Funny you said that. Shortly after he was fired, investigation into Burisma was officially closed.

Actually, it was closed because the Prosecutor General's office, led by Shokin's replacement, finished the case by collecting millions in back taxes from Burisma's owner. Something Shokin wouldn't do.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You're spreading Russian propaganda

You continue to post asinine and irrelevant shit.

When you decide to stop shitposting let me know. Your Russian get out of jail free card is hereby revoked.

Idiot

 

[Dragonlady]

Everyone points to the rest of the world and claims that Biden was essentially the worlds spokesperson as appointed by Obama.

Problem is where is the evidence he was actually corrupt? According to recent news reports the man has NEVER been charged with anything related to corruption. Nor has he any previous convictions along those lines.

He was investigating Burisma and freezing their assets which is the company Bidens son worked for. That is when the whole world supposedly realized he was corrupt.

So, where is the evidence of corruption? And no, so and so says is not evidence. So list the actual people/companies that accused him of bribing or extorting from them. REAL ACCUSATIONS not post Biden quid pro quo cover up accusations ment to give Sleepy Joe cover.


This should be a simple task if in fact he is/was corrupt.

Why are you promoting Russian propaganda about Shokin? SHOKIN WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS NOT PROSECUTING BURISMA.

Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance

The inside story of Ukraine’s ‘very good’ prosecutor at the centre of Trump's latest scandal

If you really did want to find out the truth, you could have googled it too.

"SHOKIN WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS NOT PROSECUTING BURISMA."

Funny you said that. Shortly after he was fired, investigation into Burisma was officially closed.

Gee. No link whatsoever to support this lie. Radio Free Europe says that Burisma is still being investigated.

Ukraine To Fire Prosecutor Who Led Probes Into Burisma Holdings

 

[Ame®icano]

Everyone points to the rest of the world and claims that Biden was essentially the worlds spokesperson as appointed by Obama.

Problem is where is the evidence he was actually corrupt? According to recent news reports the man has NEVER been charged with anything related to corruption. Nor has he any previous convictions along those lines.

He was investigating Burisma and freezing their assets which is the company Bidens son worked for. That is when the whole world supposedly realized he was corrupt.

So, where is the evidence of corruption? And no, so and so says is not evidence. So list the actual people/companies that accused him of bribing or extorting from them. REAL ACCUSATIONS not post Biden quid pro quo cover up accusations ment to give Sleepy Joe cover.


This should be a simple task if in fact he is/was corrupt.

Why are you promoting Russian propaganda about Shokin? SHOKIN WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS NOT PROSECUTING BURISMA.

Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance

The inside story of Ukraine’s ‘very good’ prosecutor at the centre of Trump's latest scandal

If you really did want to find out the truth, you could have googled it too.

"SHOKIN WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS NOT PROSECUTING BURISMA."

Funny you said that. Shortly after he was fired, investigation into Burisma was officially closed.

Actually, it was closed because the Prosecutor General's office, led by Shokin's replacement, finished the case by collecting millions in back taxes from Burisma's owner. Something Shokin wouldn't do.

Actually it was not. Investigation was closed by Shokin's successor.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Everyone points to the rest of the world and claims that Biden was essentially the worlds spokesperson as appointed by Obama.

Problem is where is the evidence he was actually corrupt? According to recent news reports the man has NEVER been charged with anything related to corruption. Nor has he any previous convictions along those lines.

He was investigating Burisma and freezing their assets which is the company Bidens son worked for. That is when the whole world supposedly realized he was corrupt.

So, where is the evidence of corruption? And no, so and so says is not evidence. So list the actual people/companies that accused him of bribing or extorting from them. REAL ACCUSATIONS not post Biden quid pro quo cover up accusations ment to give Sleepy Joe cover.


This should be a simple task if in fact he is/was corrupt.

Why are you promoting Russian propaganda about Shokin? SHOKIN WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS NOT PROSECUTING BURISMA.

Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance

The inside story of Ukraine’s ‘very good’ prosecutor at the centre of Trump's latest scandal

If you really did want to find out the truth, you could have googled it too.

"SHOKIN WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS NOT PROSECUTING BURISMA."

Funny you said that. Shortly after he was fired, investigation into Burisma was officially closed.

Actually, it was closed because the Prosecutor General's office, led by Shokin's replacement, finished the case by collecting millions in back taxes from Burisma's owner. Something Shokin wouldn't do.

Actually it was not. Investigation was closed by Shokin's successor.

And Shokin was fired AFTER he froze their assets during the investigation.