Was Viktor Shokin actually corrupt? The media and Biden say yes but where is the evidence?

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Everyone points to the rest of the world and claims that Biden was essentially the worlds spokesperson as appointed by Obama.

Problem is where is the evidence he was actually corrupt? According to recent news reports the man has NEVER been charged with anything related to corruption. Nor has he any previous convictions along those lines.

He was investigating Burisma and freezing their assets which is the company Bidens son worked for. That is when the whole world supposedly realized he was corrupt.

So, where is the evidence of corruption? And no, so and so says is not evidence. So list the actual people/companies that accused him of bribing or extorting from them. REAL ACCUSATIONS not post Biden quid pro quo cover up accusations ment to give Sleepy Joe cover.


This should be a simple task if in fact he is/was corrupt.

 

[The Original Tree]

Everyone points to the rest of the world and claims that Biden was essentially the worlds spokesperson as appointed by Obama.

Problem is where is the evidence he was actually corrupt? According to recent news reports the man has NEVER been charged with anything related to corruption. Nor has he any previous convictions along those lines.

He was investigating Burisma and freezing their assets which is the company Bidens son worked for. That is when the whole world supposedly realized he was corrupt.

So, where is the evidence of corruption? And no, so and so says is not evidence. So list the actual people/companies that accused him of bribing or extorting from them. REAL ACCUSATIONS not post Biden quid pro quo cover up accusations ment to give Sleepy Joe cover.


This should be a simple task if in fact he is/was corrupt.

The Guy is poor by our standards, and lives in a regular ole house, and drives a regular ole car. With all the money disappearing from The Obama-Clinton State Department in to The Ukraine laundered through The US Ukraine Embassy, you would think people who are corrupt would be able to make themselves wealthy.

Now The Corrupt Ukraine Politicians The Obama Administration was propping up and who Obama gave money to for purposes of opposing the Anti_Corruption Government that was elected? They all became wealthy and then they Fled to Russia when the new government was sworn in. Shokin? Still there in The Ukraine with a Shingle hanging out in front of his house doing divorces, wills, and petty lawsuits.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Biden could easily be exonerated of wrong doing by simply providing evidence that the man he targeted was corrupt.

 

[alang1216]

Everyone points to the rest of the world and claims that Biden was essentially the worlds spokesperson as appointed by Obama.

Problem is where is the evidence he was actually corrupt? According to recent news reports the man has NEVER been charged with anything related to corruption. Nor has he any previous convictions along those lines.

He was investigating Burisma and freezing their assets which is the company Bidens son worked for. That is when the whole world supposedly realized he was corrupt.

So, where is the evidence of corruption? And no, so and so says is not evidence. So list the actual people/companies that accused him of bribing or extorting from them. REAL ACCUSATIONS not post Biden quid pro quo cover up accusations ment to give Sleepy Joe cover.


This should be a simple task if in fact he is/was corrupt.

His Deputy Prosecutor, Vitaly Kasko, announced his resignation on 15 February 2016 denouncing the corruption and lawlessness of the Prosecutor's office.[18]

 

[Stratford57]

Was Viktor Shokin actually corrupt? The media and Biden say yes

If corrupt Biden says Shokin is corrupt it only means that in reality Shokin must be an honest guy, which is very rear case for a prosecutor (as well as any official) in my corrupt country of Ukraine. Thanks to Soros and Obama's administration who brought their "democracy" to us. overthrowing our dully elected president and installing Nazi regime

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Everyone points to the rest of the world and claims that Biden was essentially the worlds spokesperson as appointed by Obama.

Problem is where is the evidence he was actually corrupt? According to recent news reports the man has NEVER been charged with anything related to corruption. Nor has he any previous convictions along those lines.

He was investigating Burisma and freezing their assets which is the company Bidens son worked for. That is when the whole world supposedly realized he was corrupt.

So, where is the evidence of corruption? And no, so and so says is not evidence. So list the actual people/companies that accused him of bribing or extorting from them. REAL ACCUSATIONS not post Biden quid pro quo cover up accusations ment to give Sleepy Joe cover.


This should be a simple task if in fact he is/was corrupt.

His Deputy Prosecutor, Vitaly Kasko, announced his resignation on 15 February 2016 denouncing the corruption and lawlessness of the Prosecutor's office.[18]

That is not proof of anything. Corruption usually has a victim. Who is the victim?

That individual may simply be a disgruntled employee or on the take himself. Either way his accusation is not proof of criminal conduct without actual evidence or testimony from supposed victims.

As stated in the op, "so & so says" is not evidence.

Got anything REAL?

 

[BULLDOG]

Three Republican senators who are currently pushing this Russian based conspiracy theory signed a letter urging Sorkin's removal.
GOP senator says he doesn't remember signing 2016 letter urging 'reform' of Ukraine prosecutor's office
CNN on Thursday reported that three Republican senators, including Johnson, Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and then-Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) signed a 2016 letter urging “urgent reforms to the Prosecutor General’s office and Judiciary.”

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Three Republican senators who are currently pushing this Russian based conspiracy theory signed a letter urging Sorkin's removal.
GOP senator says he doesn't remember signing 2016 letter urging 'reform' of Ukraine prosecutor's office
CNN on Thursday reported that three Republican senators, including Johnson, Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and then-Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) signed a 2016 letter urging “urgent reforms to the Prosecutor General’s office and Judiciary.”

That's a start I suppose but we still need a victim/crime citation.

WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE

 

[BULLDOG]

Three Republican senators who are currently pushing this Russian based conspiracy theory signed a letter urging Sorkin's removal.
GOP senator says he doesn't remember signing 2016 letter urging 'reform' of Ukraine prosecutor's office
CNN on Thursday reported that three Republican senators, including Johnson, Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and then-Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) signed a 2016 letter urging “urgent reforms to the Prosecutor General’s office and Judiciary.”

That's a start I suppose but we still need a victim/crime citation.

WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE

You're grabbing at straws. If you insist on not believing facts, there is no need bothering with you.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Everyone points to the rest of the world and claims that Biden was essentially the worlds spokesperson as appointed by Obama.

Problem is where is the evidence he was actually corrupt? According to recent news reports the man has NEVER been charged with anything related to corruption. Nor has he any previous convictions along those lines.

He was investigating Burisma and freezing their assets which is the company Bidens son worked for. That is when the whole world supposedly realized he was corrupt.

So, where is the evidence of corruption? And no, so and so says is not evidence. So list the actual people/companies that accused him of bribing or extorting from them. REAL ACCUSATIONS not post Biden quid pro quo cover up accusations ment to give Sleepy Joe cover.


This should be a simple task if in fact he is/was corrupt.

He was costing Soros real money, so Soros pulled a few strings

 

[alang1216]

Everyone points to the rest of the world and claims that Biden was essentially the worlds spokesperson as appointed by Obama.

Problem is where is the evidence he was actually corrupt? According to recent news reports the man has NEVER been charged with anything related to corruption. Nor has he any previous convictions along those lines.

He was investigating Burisma and freezing their assets which is the company Bidens son worked for. That is when the whole world supposedly realized he was corrupt.

So, where is the evidence of corruption? And no, so and so says is not evidence. So list the actual people/companies that accused him of bribing or extorting from them. REAL ACCUSATIONS not post Biden quid pro quo cover up accusations ment to give Sleepy Joe cover.


This should be a simple task if in fact he is/was corrupt.

His Deputy Prosecutor, Vitaly Kasko, announced his resignation on 15 February 2016 denouncing the corruption and lawlessness of the Prosecutor's office.[18]

That is not proof of anything. Corruption usually has a victim. Who is the victim?

That individual may simply be a disgruntled employee or on the take himself. Either way his accusation is not proof of criminal conduct without actual evidence or testimony from supposed victims.

As stated in the op, "so & so says" is not evidence.

Got anything REAL?

The victim of corruption is the Ukraine people. If the person charged with ending corruption was himself corrupt, Ukraine suffered financial and prestige loss. How many businesses didn't choose to do business in Ukraine due to corruption?

I suspect you are so committed to Trump you would not even accept a confession by Shokin.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You're grabbing at straws. If you insist on not believing facts, there is no need bothering with you.

Asking for proof of a specific accusation is grabbing at straws?

REALLY???

Sounds more like you can not answer the question and so you are moving on because YOU don't want to see/hear/face the possibility that you've been duped.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Everyone points to the rest of the world and claims that Biden was essentially the worlds spokesperson as appointed by Obama.

Problem is where is the evidence he was actually corrupt? According to recent news reports the man has NEVER been charged with anything related to corruption. Nor has he any previous convictions along those lines.

He was investigating Burisma and freezing their assets which is the company Bidens son worked for. That is when the whole world supposedly realized he was corrupt.

So, where is the evidence of corruption? And no, so and so says is not evidence. So list the actual people/companies that accused him of bribing or extorting from them. REAL ACCUSATIONS not post Biden quid pro quo cover up accusations ment to give Sleepy Joe cover.


This should be a simple task if in fact he is/was corrupt.

His Deputy Prosecutor, Vitaly Kasko, announced his resignation on 15 February 2016 denouncing the corruption and lawlessness of the Prosecutor's office.[18]

That is not proof of anything. Corruption usually has a victim. Who is the victim?

That individual may simply be a disgruntled employee or on the take himself. Either way his accusation is not proof of criminal conduct without actual evidence or testimony from supposed victims.

As stated in the op, "so & so says" is not evidence.

Got anything REAL?

The victim of corruption is the Ukraine people. If the person charged with ending corruption was himself corrupt, Ukraine suffered financial and prestige loss. How many businesses didn't choose to do business in Ukraine due to corruption?

I suspect you are so committed to Trump you would not even accept a confession by Shokin.

So, no proof.

You are eager to be a useful tool apparently.

The request is a simple one...

 

[colfax_m]

This is a good read. The “Diamond prosecutors” refers to Shokin’s allies being found with large amounts of precious gems and cash in their house which was searched as part of an investigation into corruption (extortion from the PG office).

The prosecutor looking into this matter was forced out and nothing ever came of it.

The inside story of Ukraine’s ‘very good’ prosecutor at the centre of Trump's latest scandal

 

[Ame®icano]

Everyone points to the rest of the world and claims that Biden was essentially the worlds spokesperson as appointed by Obama.

Problem is where is the evidence he was actually corrupt? According to recent news reports the man has NEVER been charged with anything related to corruption. Nor has he any previous convictions along those lines.

He was investigating Burisma and freezing their assets which is the company Bidens son worked for. That is when the whole world supposedly realized he was corrupt.

So, where is the evidence of corruption? And no, so and so says is not evidence. So list the actual people/companies that accused him of bribing or extorting from them. REAL ACCUSATIONS not post Biden quid pro quo cover up accusations ment to give Sleepy Joe cover.


This should be a simple task if in fact he is/was corrupt.

Corrupted politician calls someone else corrupted. What else is new?

 

[candycorn]

Three Republican senators who are currently pushing this Russian based conspiracy theory signed a letter urging Sorkin's removal.
GOP senator says he doesn't remember signing 2016 letter urging 'reform' of Ukraine prosecutor's office
CNN on Thursday reported that three Republican senators, including Johnson, Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and then-Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) signed a 2016 letter urging “urgent reforms to the Prosecutor General’s office and Judiciary.”

That's a start I suppose but we still need a victim/crime citation.

WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE

You're grabbing at straws. If you insist on not believing facts, there is no need bothering with you.

Conspiracy whack jobs—aka blob supporters —only buy into facts that support their conclusion

 

[Dragonlady]

Everyone points to the rest of the world and claims that Biden was essentially the worlds spokesperson as appointed by Obama.

Problem is where is the evidence he was actually corrupt? According to recent news reports the man has NEVER been charged with anything related to corruption. Nor has he any previous convictions along those lines.

He was investigating Burisma and freezing their assets which is the company Bidens son worked for. That is when the whole world supposedly realized he was corrupt.

So, where is the evidence of corruption? And no, so and so says is not evidence. So list the actual people/companies that accused him of bribing or extorting from them. REAL ACCUSATIONS not post Biden quid pro quo cover up accusations ment to give Sleepy Joe cover.


This should be a simple task if in fact he is/was corrupt.

Why are you promoting Russian propaganda about Shokin? SHOKIN WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS NOT PROSECUTING BURISMA.

Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance

The inside story of Ukraine’s ‘very good’ prosecutor at the centre of Trump's latest scandal

If you really did want to find out the truth, you could have googled it too.

 

[DGS49]

Where is the evidence?

Just for comparison, consider the IRS, and how it deals with income tax evasion.

If you report a taxable income of $50k, and are living in a ten-million dollar residence, and have other accessories (cars, clothing, etc) that are consistent with extreme wealth, those possessions and that lifestyle are EVIDENCE that the person's tax filings may be fraudulent.

They are not DEFINITIVE, of course. Further investigation may show that money was inherited, or gifted by a rich uncle, or that the person won a Nobel Prize (which is not income-taxable). But it is EVIDENCE of under-reported income.

And that EVIDENCE warrants closer investigation.

In the instant case, Joe Biden and his son may be completely legitimate, above board, and honest. But the EVIDENCE indicates that something is amiss. The junior Biden has no particular knowledge or expertise in the energy field, he does not speak Russian or Ukrainian, he never attended a board meeting in Ukraine during the YEARS when he was receiving a $50+ thousand a month stipend for being a director of the company, and his only credential appears to be his last name.

And the new Ukrainian government, which ran on a platform of eliminating corruption, is well-positioned to investigate...better positioned, it turns out, than our own Justice Department. So it was entirely appropriate for the President to seek help in investigating this APPARENT corruption by a former U.S. Vice President and his family, although a direct President-toPresident request may not have been the customary vehicle for this request.

And the fact that Joe Biden is running for President doesn't give him a pass - which is apparently the position of the entire Democrat/Leftist universe. They profess to believe that the fact that he's running for President renders President Trump's request a personal, political favor.

Which is, logically, horse shit.

 

[Ame®icano]

Everyone points to the rest of the world and claims that Biden was essentially the worlds spokesperson as appointed by Obama.

Problem is where is the evidence he was actually corrupt? According to recent news reports the man has NEVER been charged with anything related to corruption. Nor has he any previous convictions along those lines.

He was investigating Burisma and freezing their assets which is the company Bidens son worked for. That is when the whole world supposedly realized he was corrupt.

So, where is the evidence of corruption? And no, so and so says is not evidence. So list the actual people/companies that accused him of bribing or extorting from them. REAL ACCUSATIONS not post Biden quid pro quo cover up accusations ment to give Sleepy Joe cover.


This should be a simple task if in fact he is/was corrupt.

Why are you promoting Russian propaganda about Shokin? SHOKIN WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS NOT PROSECUTING BURISMA.

Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance

The inside story of Ukraine’s ‘very good’ prosecutor at the centre of Trump's latest scandal

If you really did want to find out the truth, you could have googled it too.

"SHOKIN WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS NOT PROSECUTING BURISMA."

Funny you said that. Shortly after he was fired, investigation into Burisma was officially closed.

 

[alang1216]

So, no proof.

You are eager to be a useful tool apparently.

The request is a simple one...

This is not a math problem so demanding proof is akin to putting your hands over your ears and yelling "I can't hear you" as loud as you can. In the real world there are no 'proofs', only evidence, which you can choose to ignore if you prefer ignorance.