Was Viktor Shokin actually corrupt? The media and Biden say yes but where is the evidence?

Biden could easily be exonerated of wrong doing by simply providing evidence that the man he targeted was corrupt.

LOL- do you really think that would stop Trump from claiming Biden is corrupt?

Or would stop the Trumpettes from claiming Biden is corrupt?

Biden was implementing American foriegn policy. And doesn't need to be exonerated of anything.

Stop being a hypocrite and judge Biden by the same standards you insist we judge Shokin.

Where is the evidence of any wrong doing by Biden?
I have not judged Biden. Your free to point to a post of me claiming his guilt.
There is a cloud over his head despite what you or I might think.
He can not win the presidency with that cloud over his head. Pure and simple.
Shokin can rot in hell for all I care as he has no power in our government over me. Having said that the left are eager to use him as a scapegoat. Want me to buy it......

 
No one at Burisma is going to admit to it. Paying bribes is a crime. It was the belief of our State Dept. based on how the court case in England collapsed and Ukrainian lawyers sent a letter to Burisma’s owner saying everything is cool.
So it's a "hunch"

We're going to hang our political hats and future presidents on a bunch?

You're kidding right?

Who is hanging what?

There’s more to Shokin. He was living large, larger than a government employee would. His underlings were found to have wads of cash and diamonds in their houses as well as Shokin’s passport. Guess who ended the investigation into his underlines? That’s right. Shokin.

Even if everyone is wrong about Shokin, the fact remains that the push to oust him came from career state dept officials, not Biden. That’s awfully exculpatory. Wouldn’t you say?

Y’all are willing to torpedo Biden’s candidacy on a hunch. Is there a double standard?
I heard he lived a modest life.

This is why you need proof. He said she said proves nothing.
Who did you hear he lived a modest life?

It was part of George Kent’s testimony under oath.
And do you believe all testimony under oath? Our current investigations are nothing more than hardcore partisan bullshit. Nothing will come from any of them.
Personally I don't believe a fucking word out of Washington and only half of what I hear in the news.
Not all. I tend to believe people with nothing to gain or lose. George Kent is a career State Dept. If you’ve know any of those people, they’re not your typical government bureaucrat. They spend their lives bouncing from one post to another. All they really have is their job. I don’t see him risking everything to help Biden. I put a lot of credibility to what he says. Moreover, his statements are consistent with many others.

On the other hand, Shokin is out there defending his own integrity, a day late and a dollar short. He has motive and a reason to lie. And there isn’t really anyone coming out who defends him.

My greatest fear from the Trump presidency is this obfuscation of the truth. He’s successfully bombarded people with so much bullshit that people like you no longer believe there is a truth to be had. That’s exactly what crooks want. They thrive in that space. Fight the urge.
 
Investigate it .................then Biden can clear his name and his son's name at the same time.

Biden should be eager to clear his name.

:113:
 
Head in the sand it is...enjoy your stay

So you're going to believe the Trump lies...with no actual proof and in the face of evidence to the contrary...because you want to


Oh...
I am going off the research that I have done myself by googling and you tubing every bit of info I can. Has NOTHING to do with Trumps statements or speeches. I know you won't believe that but it is the truth
There is a name for that kind of "research"

Confirmation bias.

You look for shit until you find "someone" saying what you want to here.

Moron videos by the QAnon jerks...videos from right wing sites like OAN featuring the corrupt prosecutor who was removed BECAUSE HE WAS CORRUPT
 
Investigate it .................then Biden can clear his name and his son's name at the same time.

Biden should be eager to clear his name.

:113:
Of course the "investigation" is all Trump ever wanted...so he could point to that investigation as "evidence" of....something.

Hey...it worked in 2016 with Clinton (who has since been absolved of course)
 
Biden could easily be exonerated of wrong doing by simply providing evidence that the man he targeted was corrupt.

LOL- do you really think that would stop Trump from claiming Biden is corrupt?

Or would stop the Trumpettes from claiming Biden is corrupt?

Biden was implementing American foriegn policy. And doesn't need to be exonerated of anything.

Stop being a hypocrite and judge Biden by the same standards you insist we judge Shokin.

Where is the evidence of any wrong doing by Biden?
I have not judged Biden. Your free to point to a post of me claiming his guilt.
There is a cloud over his head despite what you or I might think.
He can not win the presidency with that cloud over his head. Pure and simple.
Shokin can rot in hell for all I care as he has no power in our government over me. Having said that the left are eager to use him as a scapegoat. Want me to buy it......
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Biden could easily be exonerated of wrong doing by simply providing evidence that the man he targeted was corrupt.
Sure you have- by claiming that Biden needs to exonerate himself.

There is a manufactured cloud over Biden's head.

And you are contributing to that manufactured cloud.

Again- why the hypocrisy?

Where is your thread demanding the evidence of Biden's corruption?

Amazing isn't it- that you demand evidence of corruption for a Ukrainian, but don't demand any evidence of corruption for an American?
 
Everyone points to the rest of the world and claims that Biden was essentially the worlds spokesperson as appointed by Obama.

Problem is where is the evidence he was actually corrupt? According to recent news reports the man has NEVER been charged with anything related to corruption. Nor has he any previous convictions along those lines.

He was investigating Burisma and freezing their assets which is the company Bidens son worked for. That is when the whole world supposedly realized he was corrupt.

So, where is the evidence of corruption? And no, so and so says is not evidence. So list the actual people/companies that accused him of bribing or extorting from them. REAL ACCUSATIONS not post Biden quid pro quo cover up accusations ment to give Sleepy Joe cover.


This should be a simple task if in fact he is/was corrupt.



Trump is corrupt & you don't care?

What Joe Biden did does not change what Trump did.

You care not about that prosecutor being corrupt. You care only to provide cover for Trump.

Other countries were with us in dumping that prosecutor. Did they all have kids on the board.
 
Investigate it .................then Biden can clear his name and his son's name at the same time.

Biden should be eager to clear his name.

:113:

I have no problem with Biden being investigated if there is any evidence to support such an investigation.

Of course the investigation should be done by the FBI- not a secret call to a foreign government to ask them to announce an investigation into a political rival.
 
Everyone points to the rest of the world and claims that Biden was essentially the worlds spokesperson as appointed by Obama.

Problem is where is the evidence he was actually corrupt? According to recent news reports the man has NEVER been charged with anything related to corruption. Nor has he any previous convictions along those lines.

He was investigating Burisma and freezing their assets which is the company Bidens son worked for. That is when the whole world supposedly realized he was corrupt.

So, where is the evidence of corruption? And no, so and so says is not evidence. So list the actual people/companies that accused him of bribing or extorting from them. REAL ACCUSATIONS not post Biden quid pro quo cover up accusations ment to give Sleepy Joe cover.


This should be a simple task if in fact he is/was corrupt.

Why are you promoting Russian propaganda about Shokin? SHOKIN WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS NOT PROSECUTING BURISMA.

Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance

The inside story of Ukraine’s ‘very good’ prosecutor at the centre of Trump's latest scandal

If you really did want to find out the truth, you could have googled it too.

"SHOKIN WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS NOT PROSECUTING BURISMA."

Funny you said that. Shortly after he was fired, investigation into Burisma was officially closed.
Actually, it was closed because the Prosecutor General's office, led by Shokin's replacement, finished the case by collecting millions in back taxes from Burisma's owner. Something Shokin wouldn't do.

Actually it was not. Investigation was closed by Shokin's successor.
And Shokin was fired AFTER he froze their assets during the investigation.
Evidence to support that claim?
 
Shokin was not just a prosecutor, but the Inspector General, so should not have been fired without charges and a trial.
It turns civil service upside down.
 
Biden could easily be exonerated of wrong doing by simply providing evidence that the man he targeted was corrupt.

LOL- do you really think that would stop Trump from claiming Biden is corrupt?

Or would stop the Trumpettes from claiming Biden is corrupt?

Biden was implementing American foriegn policy. And doesn't need to be exonerated of anything.

Stop being a hypocrite and judge Biden by the same standards you insist we judge Shokin.

Where is the evidence of any wrong doing by Biden?
I have not judged Biden. Your free to point to a post of me claiming his guilt.A]
Quoting you from May 2019

You're clearly ignorant of the facts of what Biden did using his POLITICAL POSITION to ensure his sons success with regard to Ukraine.

My advice would be to inform yourself before spouting off so you look less stupid....

Up to you though
 
Biden could easily be exonerated of wrong doing by simply providing evidence that the man he targeted was corrupt.

Did you ever see the movie Serpico? Shokin committed the same crime Serpico did - he didn't play the game.

See my sig for a deeper explanation.

Shokin was no Serpico.

Unless Serpico was actually a corrupt prosecutor in Ukraine.
 
Biden could easily be exonerated of wrong doing by simply providing evidence that the man he targeted was corrupt.

Did you ever see the movie Serpico? Shokin committed the same crime Serpico did - he didn't play the game.

See my sig for a deeper explanation.
Shokin was corrupt

Ask Senator Ron Johnson. He signed a letter (along with several other GOP Senators) demanding Shokin's removal

Ya know who thinks Shokin was a great guy?

Putin

And What really happened when Biden forced out Ukraine's top prosecutor
 
Biden could easily be exonerated of wrong doing by simply providing evidence that the man he targeted was corrupt.

Did you ever see the movie Serpico? Shokin committed the same crime Serpico did - he didn't play the game.

See my sig for a deeper explanation.
Shokin was corrupt

Ask Senator Ron Johnson. He signed a letter (along with several other GOP Senators) demanding Shokin's removal

Ya know who thinks Shokin was a great guy?

Putin

And What really happened when Biden forced out Ukraine's top prosecutor

US politicians demanding the firing of a foreign prosecutor is about as corrupt and illegal as one can get.
That would be totally inappropriate.
 
Everyone points to the rest of the world and claims that Biden was essentially the worlds spokesperson as appointed by Obama.

Problem is where is the evidence he was actually corrupt? According to recent news reports the man has NEVER been charged with anything related to corruption. Nor has he any previous convictions along those lines.

He was investigating Burisma and freezing their assets which is the company Bidens son worked for. That is when the whole world supposedly realized he was corrupt.

So, where is the evidence of corruption? And no, so and so says is not evidence. So list the actual people/companies that accused him of bribing or extorting from them. REAL ACCUSATIONS not post Biden quid pro quo cover up accusations ment to give Sleepy Joe cover.


This should be a simple task if in fact he is/was corrupt.

Why are you promoting Russian propaganda about Shokin? SHOKIN WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS NOT PROSECUTING BURISMA.

Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance

The inside story of Ukraine’s ‘very good’ prosecutor at the centre of Trump's latest scandal

If you really did want to find out the truth, you could have googled it too.

"SHOKIN WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS NOT PROSECUTING BURISMA."

Funny you said that. Shortly after he was fired, investigation into Burisma was officially closed.

Gee. No link whatsoever to support this lie. Radio Free Europe says that Burisma is still being investigated.

Ukraine To Fire Prosecutor Who Led Probes Into Burisma Holdings

I provided links many times, and every single time you leftist fucks shut up and just move to another thread just to claim again and again that "there was no investigation at the time when Shokin was fired." And that is a lie.

Shokin was fired on March 29, 2016, per Biden request.

Lets see what Ukrainian media says about that... From Kyiv Post and Hromadske International
On September 13, 2016, the Pechersk District Court ordered the Prosecutor General to approve termination of the search for Zlochevsky.

The Prosecutor General's Office closed the case of tax evasion. “I believe that we have had success with this case: Burisma has paid the largest amount of taxes and penalties based on the results of examinations at that time – 180 million hryvnias ($7.46 million),” Lutsenko commented.

Meaning, the investigation was open neatly 6 more months after Shokin was fired, and was closed by Shokin successor, Yuriy Lutsenko.

Now you can stop your ignorant and senseless yapping.
 
Why are you promoting Russian propaganda about Shokin? SHOKIN WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS NOT PROSECUTING BURISMA.

Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance

The inside story of Ukraine’s ‘very good’ prosecutor at the centre of Trump's latest scandal

If you really did want to find out the truth, you could have googled it too.

"SHOKIN WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS NOT PROSECUTING BURISMA."

Funny you said that. Shortly after he was fired, investigation into Burisma was officially closed.
Actually, it was closed because the Prosecutor General's office, led by Shokin's replacement, finished the case by collecting millions in back taxes from Burisma's owner. Something Shokin wouldn't do.

Actually it was not. Investigation was closed by Shokin's successor.
And Shokin was fired AFTER he froze their assets during the investigation.

he resigned u dumbass.

He was asked to resign, same as firing, you moron.
 

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