The U.S. Has No Conservative Party | Opinion

TAX THE RICH, TAX THE RICH........ blah blah blah blah blah.
I’m in favor of doing away with social security, Medicaid payments, Medicare and all small business loans and disability and unemployment benefits for registered republicans…we could cut as much as 20% of the domestic spending
 
What a fool. Then it’s the private sectors job to build bridges, roads and plow the roads feed the poor right ?
Still waiting for GM to finance the interstate.

Those things are fine. But when that same government is paying for gender studies in Pakistan, gay parades in Progue, opposition candidates in Bulgaria and 10,000 other retarded things, then those who actually pay in more than they get back, start having a problem with where our tax dollars are going.
 
When was the last time a Republican led tax cuts for the rich, ever also cut spending…….NEVER DUFUS.

Those are the very ones in the GOP I, as an actual conservative, oppose. Because they're nothing more than left leaning republicans. IE RINO's.

DUFUS
 
This is a good article that explains why us actual conservatives don't like Trump or much of what's going on with the GOP. Republicans run their campaigns on stopping the left and the lefts "out of control spending." But campaigning is about all they do. Once elected, they turn into exactly what they campaign against.

Actual conservatives are voters without a party.

The U.S. Has No Conservative Party | Opinion​

Ideology in the United States is an often muddled subject, not well understood by most, and usually confused with partisanship when people speak about it. In so doing, the common belief is that Democrats are liberal while Republicans are conservative, and each party represents the left and right ends of the spectrum respectively. This belief is so entrenched that most will use the partisan and ideological terms interchangeably, treating them as one and the same. However, the reality is that ideology isn't really a simple one-dimensional spectrum stretching from left to right, and in the United States, we don't really have a conservative party.

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Knowing this, it now ought to be easy to see why the United States is truly without a conservative party and has been for decades. Republicans only ever campaign on the principle of limited government in the economy, but that is little more than lip service to a position they have never truly adhered to.

Nowhere is this Republican hypocrisy better evidenced than when it comes to the matter of government spending. In looking to the U.S. budget going as far back as Ronald Regan, we see a nearly four decade pattern of deficit spending under Republican presidents. Blowing up the national debt to finance an ever-growing government is not a conservative position, but it is a consistent result of what happens when a Republican is in the White House.
There is no Republicans and no conservatives just a hate party called MAGA, which is a joke on humanity. The only thing that ties this group together is stupidity and hatred.
 
There is no GOP, what a hoot. What you have is a group that has a god and leader that shits in his pants and has literally a group standing by to change his diapers , they say the hardest part of their job is to get Trumps girdle off it is like a straight jacket. These diaper changers know how futile it is because Trump will just take another shot, snort or handful of drugs and just shits in his pants again. His son says he is like sitting next to a open sewer, the man just reeks,
 
There is no Republicans and no conservatives just a hate party called MAGA, which is a joke on humanity. The only thing that ties this group together is stupidity and hatred.

You're a democrat, right?
 
And yet, congressional Repubs sell themselves to their constituents as fiscal conservatives and their constituents buy it. The reality is fiscally conservative Repubs don't have a party because they don't reflect what people want. Their cake and to eat it too.

It depends on how you define "fiscal conservative". If you define it as someone who makes sound investments to provide a good return you would be correct. But if you define it as government spending no money it doesn't have, that's neither sound nor conservative.

Fiscal conservatives believe in small government and sound investment in the nation and the people. They believe in paying for things like health, education and infrastructure because these are sound investments in the nation.

Republicans abandoned the sound fiscal policies when Reagan was elected. Reagan expanded the size of government because unemployment reached 6% and he wanted to bring it down.

He cut taxes without balancing the budget, and then he went on a spending spree on the national credit card. It was the expanded government spending that fuelled the economic growth, more than the tax cuts. The result crashed the economy, and yet Republicans continue to cut taxes, go on a spending spree and crash the economy.

Economic crashes have become a feature, not a bug, of Republican Presidential administrations. They enrich the wealthy donor class, impoverish working and middle class Americans, and move the USA closer to an authoritatian dictatorship. Republicans love it.
 
Republicans abandoned the sound fiscal policies when Reagan was elected. Reagan expanded the size of government because unemployment reached 6% and he wanted to bring it down.
Exactly. Fiscally conservative is an oxymoron. Universal healthcare saves billions for every nation that has it compared to the US. Yet, saving money isn‘t in the cards for the fiscally conservative in the USA.
 
Exactly. Fiscally conservative is an oxymoron. Universal healthcare saves billions for every nation that has it compared to the US. Yet, saving money isn‘t in the cards for the fiscally conservative in the USA.
The MAGA party isn't anyway conservative., it is a party of the stupid and the hateful. They are a do nothing party who hate our values, our democracy, our constitution and our country. A group of fake christian who use the ugliest most hate full part of the bible to demand control.
 
It depends on how you define "fiscal conservative". If you define it as someone who makes sound investments to provide a good return you would be correct. But if you define it as government spending no money it doesn't have, that's neither sound nor conservative.

Fiscal conservatives believe in small government and sound investment in the nation and the people. They believe in paying for things like health, education and infrastructure because these are sound investments in the nation.

Republicans abandoned the sound fiscal policies when Reagan was elected. Reagan expanded the size of government because unemployment reached 6% and he wanted to bring it down.

He cut taxes without balancing the budget, and then he went on a spending spree on the national credit card. It was the expanded government spending that fuelled the economic growth, more than the tax cuts. The result crashed the economy, and yet Republicans continue to cut taxes, go on a spending spree and crash the economy.

Economic crashes have become a feature, not a bug, of Republican Presidential administrations. They enrich the wealthy donor class, impoverish working and middle class Americans, and move the USA closer to an authoritatian dictatorship. Republicans love it.
No, it is Democrats who love controlling what we eat, what we drive, what kind of light bulbs we should use, etc. etc. And Reagan had no choice, we were fighting the Soviet Union, which you fucking Canucks love.
 
The MAGA party isn't anyway conservative., it is a party of the stupid and the hateful. They are a do nothing party who hate our values, our democracy, our constitution and our country. A group of fake christian who use the ugliest most hate full part of the bible to demand control.
MAGA is an ideology that has nothing to do with governing. It’s a self serving purpose focused on one person, Trump. It’s not democratic, it’s fascist. Trump tells them what to do.
liberalism and conservatism are different political philosophies that are both found in a democracy. MAGA is neither . It’s nothing more than a cult.
 
I'm not dialing back shit...You keep creating these whine threads, yet propose no course of action to remedy the situation or, steer the efforts already underway.



Well, the Trumpsters are hard at cracking it...Moms for Liberty going at school boards, the Precinct Strategy putting friendlies in at the precinct level, Lindell putting up his entire multi-million dollar business up to fight for clean and transparent elections, for starters....Regardless of their politics, like them or not, they're taking action and getting results.

What's your plan of action?
Conservatism - Progressivism driving the speed limit.
I am not interested in conservatism, conserve what exactly? 160 years of unrestrained government growth, intrusion in private lives and business, and milking the treasury to reward crony business interests.
 
No, it is Democrats who love controlling what we eat, what we drive, what kind of light bulbs we should use, etc. etc. And Reagan had no choice, we were fighting the Soviet Union, which you fucking Canucks love.
and only the stupid would choose to not regulate what we eat what we drive or what kind of light bulbs we use. You dumb fuck what do you think business would do if we didn't regulate these things, you don't even have to guess simply look back into our history to find out what business would and did do. You people are so fucking stupid that it is embarrassing. Without regulation big b would eat our children for the bottom line.
 
Conservatism - Progressivism driving the speed limit.
I am not interested in conservatism, conserve what exactly? 160 years of unrestrained government growth, intrusion in private lives and business, and milking the treasury to reward crony business interests.
So what exactly are you interested in? What direction do you want to see the country going? Because a pure 100% libertarian ideology won't work.
 

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