The hypocrisy and arrogance of atheism

[Hollie]

Aww. Your YEC'ist feelings

aggressive irrelevancy......your forte.....

Please try to keep up, I've said over and over again that I'm agnostic, as I see no proof one way or the other. The only rational position to hold.

then why, when I point out that atheists are irrational, do you continue to argue with me?.....

I said that they are less irrational than theists.

there's no reason to repeat your mistakes.....

You were embarrassed, right? Your "one judge" comment was ignorant and ill-informed.

You were too ignorant to acknowledge is that the Kitzmiller case was just one of many that resulted in ID'iot creationism being a false label for christian fundies attempting to force their dogma into the public schools.

at least you agree its a false label.....for a minute I thought you believed ID meant YE creationism.....

You agree it's an accurate label. There's no need to scurry from your YEC'ist beliefs. Embrace the silliness.

 

[Hollie]

Which makes a bird's nest intelligent design.

And what's the evidence for abiogenesis again?

There are many viable hypotheses. You wont find them at your Harun Yahya madrassah, though.

And what's the evidence for any of your polytheistic gawds?

So, you're going tell us all about abiogenesis right?

Already did.

So, you're going to tell us about one or more of your gawds did it, right?

Holly told us all there is to know about abiogenesis......mud puddle, lightning, zap, life.......she loves science......

Actually, mud puddles is your claim; taken from your fundie creation ministries. It's a typically fraudulent description for the beginning of life that the science ignorant use.

So, tell us about your talking snakes, Arks that never existed and your 6,000 year old earth fable.

 

[MaxGrit]

Another Hyper-religious Windbag Confusing His Dogma with Objective Reality


Vacuous, unsupported claims + from nothing, nothing comes = A totally unsupported claim of unparalleled pointlessness

Refuting the Relativist, Materialist and/or Atheist's Utter Insanity


The Seven Bindingly Incontrovertible Whether or Knots™: http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248681/.


The Seven Things™ stand! They are objectively true for all regarding the problems of existence and origin due to the organic laws of human thought (the law of identity, the law of contradiction and the law of the excluded middle): http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248535/.



Hollie's Ten Incredibly Obtuse, Hermeneutically Dated Straw Men! http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248427/



The On-Going Saga of the Relativist's Irrationalism, Rank Stupidity, Pseudoscientific Claptrap, Mindless Chatter and Pathological Dishonesty: The Kool-Aid Drinkers of Duh: http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248474/



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248513/
Hollie's Stumper Questions for Creationists is a Mess of Pseudoscientific Blather, and Philosophical and Theological Illiteracy



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248527/
The Atheist Demonstrates Once Again that He's Got Nothin', and Nothin' from Nothin' = Nothin'!



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10207407/
The Incontrovertible, Scientific Facts of Human Cognition/Psychology Versus the Make Believe World of Materialistic, Cross-My-Fingers Nuh-huh


http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10210743/
The 25 Questions for the species Dropus Cranium Infans Orogenicmanicus de Basketus Weavicus: Or How the Proponents of Make Believe Aboigenesis Don't Really Have the First Clue about the Science. . . .



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248384/
Another Atheist Confusing His Personal Opinions with Scientific Facts



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248322/
Puttin' Hollie Down for The Seven Things™



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10196537/
The Betty Boop Chronicles



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10185098/
The Insanity that Science Precedes Logic



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10198442/
Magical Materialism - The Stuff of Straightjackets and Shock Therapy



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10174792/
The Laws of Human Thought are Bioneurologically Hardwired!



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10178816/
The Four Refusals of Rationality that Would Render None of Our Beliefs Tenable, Including the Atheist's!



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10165346/
The Three Laws of Divine Thought According to Boss ≠ Boss, but = a Tiny Little god (Boss) in the Gap!



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10169294/
More on the Intellectual Gymnastics of Boss ≠ Boss, but = a tiny little god (Boss) in the gap



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10155999/
The Irrationalists Mock Themselves



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10157487/
The Universal Principle of Human Relations: Most Atheists are Idiots


http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10218381/
The Omnipotence Paradox is a Straw Man I



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10218773/
The Omnipotence Paradox is a Straw Man II



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10227044/
Orogenicman and the Magical Mythical Tour of Abiogenesis




http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248818/
Summary Post - Part I



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248844/
Summary Post - Part II

Nice

 

[Taz]

There's just no proof of said designer whatsoever.

There is plenty of evidence of intelligent design
God did not make dogs.......they were intelligently designed by man
Same goes for cats, cows, chickens, sheep

Which makes a bird's nest intelligent design.

And what's the evidence for abiogenesis again?

There are many viable hypotheses. You wont find them at your Harun Yahya madrassah, though.

And what's the evidence for any of your polytheistic gawds?

So, you're going tell us all about abiogenesis right?

Abiogenesis is the leading THEORY! No one has closed their mind in the scientific community about this, the search goes on. But at least they don't close their minds and spout "it's my invisible friend who created everything".

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

The diff I would say is that creationists have stopped looking and have settled on "it's my invisible friend". Whereas others are still looking, such as at abiogenesis. A closed mind versus an open mind still asking questions and searching for the real truth.

Abiogenesis is the leading THEORY! No one has closed their mind in the scientific community about this, the search goes on. But at least they don't close their minds and spout "it's my invisible friend who created everything".

The Wire - Associated Press: Taz declares the greatest scientific feat in history!

More tiresome ignorance from a know-nothing atheist. Prebiotic, monomeric precursors cannot and do not form the polymers of biology, let alone form any self-ordering structures of replication above the polymerization level of prebiotic chemistry. Professional scientists in prebiotic chemistry know this. The self-ordering properties of mere chemistry coupled with the physical laws of nature have never been observed to produce anything whatsoever above the infrastructural-level of ontology. Ever! The value of prebiotic chemistry (abiogenetic research) serves the enterprise of microbiological engineering only, and there are many creationist and ID scientists doing research in prebiotic chemistry.

Closed minded? What do you know about the science? Abiogenesis is no longer about demonstrating the actuality of nature producing life on its own, but about what prebiotic, monomeric precursors were available to the primordial world and about how the other indispensable prebiotic, monomeric precursors came to be.

Abiogenesis is not a theory, you ignoramus. It's a mere hypothesis and nothing more.

Theory?!

Look everybody. First, the mindless atheists/relativists of the USMB make the manifestly false claim that the theological axioms of human psychology hold that everything was created, including knowledge, apparently, beginning with logic. What philosophical or theological system of thought in history has ever asserted the imbecilic notion that divinity created everything? So according to some atheists/relativists, the theological axioms of human psychology hold that divinity didn't have the knowledge and the logic it needed in order to create the knowledge and the logic it needed until it created the knowledge and the logic it needed in order to create the knowledge and the logic it needed until it created the knowledge and the logic it needed. . . .

The egg! No! The chicken! No! The egg! No! The chicken! Fairies wear boots! You gotta believe me!

Are most atheists (1) imbeciles or (2) what?

Answer: Door number one!

Now, we have an atheist making the amazing claim that the Pasteurian theory of omne vivum ex vivo, i.e., all life is from life has been overthrown. When did that happen? Stop the presses! This is big news! This is a scientific breakthrough on the order of the discovery of the position-momentum dichotomy of subatomic particles in the wave-like systems of quantum physics! No wait! What am I talking about? This is a major story on the order of landing the first man on the moon! No wait! Landing the first man on the moon? What am I talking about? Taz has declared the greatest scientific feat in history!

Got ?

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

Refuting the Relativist, Materialist and/or Atheist's Utter Insanity



The Seven Bindingly Incontrovertible Whether or Knots™: http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248681/.



The Seven Things™ stand! They are objectively true for all regarding the problems of existence and origin due to the organic laws of human thought (the law of identity, the law of contradiction and the law of the excluded middle): http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248535/.



Hollie's Ten Incredibly Obtuse, Hermeneutically Dated Straw Men! http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248427/



The On-Going Saga of the Relativist's Irrationalism, Rank Stupidity, Pseudoscientific Claptrap, Mindless Chatter and Pathological Dishonesty: The Kool-Aid Drinkers of Duh: http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248474/



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248513/
Hollie's Stumper Questions for Creationists is a Mess of Pseudoscientific Blather, and Philosophical and Theological Illiteracy



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248527/
The Atheist Demonstrates Once Again that He's Got Nothin', and Nothin' from Nothin' = Nothin'!




http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10207407/
The Incontrovertible, Scientific Facts of Human Cognition/Psychology Versus the Make Believe World of Materialistic, Cross-My-Fingers Nuh-huh




http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10226095/
Taz Affirms the OP's Charge Regarding the Character and the Quality of the Intellect of the Typical Atheist (or Materialistic Pantheist) on this Forum



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10222908/
That's Really Weird



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10223665/
That's Really Weird Too



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10251424/
The Wire - Associated Press: Taz declares the greatest scientific feat in history!



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10223597/
Delta4Embassy Habitually Writes Posts that are Really Weird


http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10210743/
The 25 Questions for the species Dropus Cranium Infans Orogenicmanicus de Basketus Weavicus: Or How the Proponents of Make Believe Aboigenesis Don't Really Have the First Clue about the Science. . . .



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248384/
Another Atheist Confusing His Personal Opinions with Scientific Facts



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248322/
Puttin' Hollie Down for The Seven Things™




http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10196537/
The Betty Boop Chronicles



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10185098/
The Insanity that Science Precedes Logic



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10198442/
Magical Materialism - The Stuff of Straightjackets and Shock Therapy



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10174792/
The Laws of Human Thought are Bioneurologically Hardwired!



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10178816/
The Four Refusals of Rationality that Would Render None of Our Beliefs Tenable, Including the Atheist's!



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10165346/
The Three Laws of Divine Thought According to Boss ≠ Boss, but = a Tiny Little god (Boss) in the Gap!



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10169294/
More on the Intellectual Gymnastics of Boss ≠ Boss, but = a tiny little god (Boss) in the gap



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10155999/
The Irrationalists Mock Themselves



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10157487/
The Universal Principle of Human Relations: Most Atheists are Idiots



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10218381/
The Omnipotence Paradox is a Straw Man I



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10218773/
The Omnipotence Paradox is a Straw Man II



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10227044/
Orogenicman and the Magical Mythical Tour of Abiogenesis



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248818/
Summary Post - Part I



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248844/
Summary Post - Part II

 

[Hollie]

Refuting the Relativist, Materialist and/or Atheist's Utter Insanity



The Seven Bindingly Incontrovertible Whether or Knots™: http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248681/.



The Seven Things™ stand! They are objectively true for all regarding the problems of existence and origin due to the organic laws of human thought (the law of identity, the law of contradiction and the law of the excluded middle): http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248535/.



Hollie's Ten Incredibly Obtuse, Hermeneutically Dated Straw Men! http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248427/



The On-Going Saga of the Relativist's Irrationalism, Rank Stupidity, Pseudoscientific Claptrap, Mindless Chatter and Pathological Dishonesty: The Kool-Aid Drinkers of Duh: http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248474/



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248513/
Hollie's Stumper Questions for Creationists is a Mess of Pseudoscientific Blather, and Philosophical and Theological Illiteracy



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248527/
The Atheist Demonstrates Once Again that He's Got Nothin', and Nothin' from Nothin' = Nothin'!




http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10207407/
The Incontrovertible, Scientific Facts of Human Cognition/Psychology Versus the Make Believe World of Materialistic, Cross-My-Fingers Nuh-huh




http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10226095/
Taz Affirms the OP's Charge Regarding the Character and the Quality of the Intellect of the Typical Atheist (or Materialistic Pantheist) on this Forum



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10222908/
That's Really Weird



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10223665/
That's Really Weird Too



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10251424/
The Wire - Associated Press: Taz declares the greatest scientific feat in history!



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10223597/
Delta4Embassy Habitually Writes Posts that are Really Weird


http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10210743/
The 25 Questions for the species Dropus Cranium Infans Orogenicmanicus de Basketus Weavicus: Or How the Proponents of Make Believe Aboigenesis Don't Really Have the First Clue about the Science. . . .



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248384/
Another Atheist Confusing His Personal Opinions with Scientific Facts



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248322/
Puttin' Hollie Down for The Seven Things™




http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10196537/
The Betty Boop Chronicles



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10185098/
The Insanity that Science Precedes Logic



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10198442/
Magical Materialism - The Stuff of Straightjackets and Shock Therapy



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10174792/
The Laws of Human Thought are Bioneurologically Hardwired!



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10178816/
The Four Refusals of Rationality that Would Render None of Our Beliefs Tenable, Including the Atheist's!



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10165346/
The Three Laws of Divine Thought According to Boss ≠ Boss, but = a Tiny Little god (Boss) in the Gap!



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10169294/
More on the Intellectual Gymnastics of Boss ≠ Boss, but = a tiny little god (Boss) in the gap



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10155999/
The Irrationalists Mock Themselves



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10157487/
The Universal Principle of Human Relations: Most Atheists are Idiots



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10218381/
The Omnipotence Paradox is a Straw Man I



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10218773/
The Omnipotence Paradox is a Straw Man II



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10227044/
Orogenicman and the Magical Mythical Tour of Abiogenesis



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248818/
Summary Post - Part I



http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10248844/
Summary Post - Part II

Attention: angry, self-hating religious zealot. How many more times are you going to cut and paste this same nonsense?

 

[PostmodernProph]

It's a typically fraudulent description for the beginning of life that the science ignorant use.

agreed.....but then some of you have pointed out that abiogenesis is the best you've got, even if it is a fraudulent description for the beginning of life......

 

[Hollie]

It's a typically fraudulent description for the beginning of life that the science ignorant use.

agreed.....but then some of you have pointed out that abiogenesis is the best you've got, even if it is a fraudulent description for the beginning of life......

Abiogenesis as well as biogenesis are viable descriptions for the beginning of life.

As opposed to your claims for magic and supernaturalism that occurred just 6,000 years ago.

 

[Taz]

The diff I would say is that creationists have stopped looking and have settled on "it's my invisible friend". Whereas others are still looking, such as at abiogenesis. A closed mind versus an open mind still asking questions and searching for the real truth.

Abiogenesis is the leading THEORY! No one has closed their mind in the scientific community about this, the search goes on. But at least they don't close their minds and spout "it's my invisible friend who created everything".

The Wire - Associated Press: Taz declares the greatest scientific feat in history!

More tiresome ignorance from a know-nothing atheist. Prebiotic, monomeric precursors cannot and do not form the polymers of biology, let alone form any self-ordering structures of replication above the polymerization level of prebiotic chemistry. Professional scientists in prebiotic chemistry know this. The self-ordering properties of mere chemistry coupled with the physical laws of nature have never been observed to produce anything whatsoever above the infrastructural-level of ontology. Ever! The value of prebiotic chemistry (abiogenetic research) serves the enterprise of microbiological engineering only, and there are many creationist and ID scientists doing research in prebiotic chemistry.

Closed minded? What do you know about the science? Abiogenesis is no longer about demonstrating the actuality of nature producing life on its own, but about what prebiotic, monomeric precursors were available to the primordial world and about how the other indispensable prebiotic, monomeric precursors came to be.

Abiogenesis is not a theory, you ignoramus. It's a mere hypothesis and nothing more.

Theory?!

Look everybody. First, the mindless atheists/relativists of the USMB make the manifestly false claim that the theological axioms of human psychology hold that everything was created, including knowledge, apparently, beginning with logic. What philosophical or theological system of thought in history has ever asserted the imbecilic notion that divinity created everything? So according to some atheists/relativists, the theological axioms of human psychology hold that divinity didn't have the knowledge and the logic it needed in order to create the knowledge and the logic it needed until it created the knowledge and the logic it needed in order to create the knowledge and the logic it needed until it created the knowledge and the logic it needed. . . .

The egg! No! The chicken! No! The egg! No! The chicken! Fairies wear boots! You gotta believe me!

Are most atheists (1) imbeciles or (2) what?

Answer: Door number one!

Now, we have an atheist making the amazing claim that the Pasteurian theory of omne vivum ex vivo, i.e., all life is from life has been overthrown. When did that happen? Stop the presses! This is big news! This is a scientific breakthrough on the order of the discovery of the position-momentum dichotomy of subatomic particles in the wave-like systems of quantum physics! No wait! What am I talking about? This is a major story on the order of landing the first man on the moon! No wait! Landing the first man on the moon? What am I talking about? Taz has declared the greatest scientific feat in history!

Got ?

not an atheist, you dumbass.

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

[

The diff I would say is that creationists have stopped looking and have settled on "it's my invisible friend". Whereas others are still looking, such as at abiogenesis. A closed mind versus an open mind still asking questions and searching for the real truth.

Abiogenesis is the leading THEORY! No one has closed their mind in the scientific community about this, the search goes on. But at least they don't close their minds and spout "it's my invisible friend who created everything".

The Wire - Associated Press: Taz declares the greatest scientific feat in history!

More tiresome ignorance from a know-nothing atheist. Prebiotic, monomeric precursors cannot and do not form the polymers of biology, let alone form any self-ordering structures of replication above the polymerization level of prebiotic chemistry. Professional scientists in prebiotic chemistry know this. The self-ordering properties of mere chemistry coupled with the physical laws of nature have never been observed to produce anything whatsoever above the infrastructural-level of ontology. Ever! The value of prebiotic chemistry (abiogenetic research) serves the enterprise of microbiological engineering only, and there are many creationist and ID scientists doing research in prebiotic chemistry.

Closed minded? What do you know about the science? Abiogenesis is no longer about demonstrating the actuality of nature producing life on its own, but about what prebiotic, monomeric precursors were available to the primordial world and about how the other indispensable prebiotic, monomeric precursors came to be.

Abiogenesis is not a theory, you ignoramus. It's a mere hypothesis and nothing more.

Theory?!

Look everybody. First, the mindless atheists/relativists of the USMB make the manifestly false claim that the theological axioms of human psychology hold that everything was created, including knowledge, apparently, beginning with logic. What philosophical or theological system of thought in history has ever asserted the imbecilic notion that divinity created everything? So according to some atheists/relativists, the theological axioms of human psychology hold that divinity didn't have the knowledge and the logic it needed in order to create the knowledge and the logic it needed until it created the knowledge and the logic it needed in order to create the knowledge and the logic it needed until it created the knowledge and the logic it needed. . . .

The egg! No! The chicken! No! The egg! No! The chicken! Fairies wear boots! You gotta believe me!

Are most atheists (1) imbeciles or (2) what?

Answer: Door number one!

Now, we have an atheist making the amazing claim that the Pasteurian theory of omne vivum ex vivo, i.e., all life is from life has been overthrown. When did that happen? Stop the presses! This is big news! This is a scientific breakthrough on the order of the discovery of the position-momentum dichotomy of subatomic particles in the wave-like systems of quantum physics! No wait! What am I talking about? This is a major story on the order of landing the first man on the moon! No wait! Landing the first man on the moon? What am I talking about? Taz has declared the greatest scientific feat in history!

Got ?

not an atheist, you dumbass.

I don't know why you're calling me a "dumbass." I'm not the one who said that abiogenesis was a scientific theory. And don't try to sell the nonsense that you're an agnostic. No real agnostics disregard the fact of the theological axioms of human psychology.

 

[emilynghiem]

[

The diff I would say is that creationists have stopped looking and have settled on "it's my invisible friend". Whereas others are still looking, such as at abiogenesis. A closed mind versus an open mind still asking questions and searching for the real truth.

Abiogenesis is the leading THEORY! No one has closed their mind in the scientific community about this, the search goes on. But at least they don't close their minds and spout "it's my invisible friend who created everything".

The Wire - Associated Press: Taz declares the greatest scientific feat in history!

More tiresome ignorance from a know-nothing atheist. Prebiotic, monomeric precursors cannot and do not form the polymers of biology, let alone form any self-ordering structures of replication above the polymerization level of prebiotic chemistry. Professional scientists in prebiotic chemistry know this. The self-ordering properties of mere chemistry coupled with the physical laws of nature have never been observed to produce anything whatsoever above the infrastructural-level of ontology. Ever! The value of prebiotic chemistry (abiogenetic research) serves the enterprise of microbiological engineering only, and there are many creationist and ID scientists doing research in prebiotic chemistry.

Closed minded? What do you know about the science? Abiogenesis is no longer about demonstrating the actuality of nature producing life on its own, but about what prebiotic, monomeric precursors were available to the primordial world and about how the other indispensable prebiotic, monomeric precursors came to be.

Abiogenesis is not a theory, you ignoramus. It's a mere hypothesis and nothing more.

Theory?!

Look everybody. First, the mindless atheists/relativists of the USMB make the manifestly false claim that the theological axioms of human psychology hold that everything was created, including knowledge, apparently, beginning with logic. What philosophical or theological system of thought in history has ever asserted the imbecilic notion that divinity created everything? So according to some atheists/relativists, the theological axioms of human psychology hold that divinity didn't have the knowledge and the logic it needed in order to create the knowledge and the logic it needed until it created the knowledge and the logic it needed in order to create the knowledge and the logic it needed until it created the knowledge and the logic it needed. . . .

The egg! No! The chicken! No! The egg! No! The chicken! Fairies wear boots! You gotta believe me!

Are most atheists (1) imbeciles or (2) what?

Answer: Door number one!

Now, we have an atheist making the amazing claim that the Pasteurian theory of omne vivum ex vivo, i.e., all life is from life has been overthrown. When did that happen? Stop the presses! This is big news! This is a scientific breakthrough on the order of the discovery of the position-momentum dichotomy of subatomic particles in the wave-like systems of quantum physics! No wait! What am I talking about? This is a major story on the order of landing the first man on the moon! No wait! Landing the first man on the moon? What am I talking about? Taz has declared the greatest scientific feat in history!

Got ?

not an atheist, you dumbass.

I don't know why you're calling me a "dumbass." I'm not the one who said that abiogenesis was a scientific theory. And don't try to sell the nonsense that you're an agnostic. No real agnostics disregard the fact of the theological axioms of human psychology.

Dear TAZ and M.D. Rawlings
I have no problem with people either believing in or rejecting creation and/or evolution
as long as we can focus and agree on how to apply the laws of nature and governance to
solve problems in the real world.

I have no problem with people like TAZ or O man favoring the concept/approach of abiogenesis
or even people who believe all things always were in existence, with or without God,
as long as we can focus on how to apply laws of nature and governance
to solving real world problems.

Where I do have an issue is where these conflicts
INTERFERE or obstruct/damage relations
where we cannot work together effectively as fellow citizens
facing a world and economy that needs rebuilding in many areas.

I think our mental capacity, creative ideas, resources and efforts
are much needed to put into real world action.
And this can better be accomplished by focusing on points of
AGREEMENT not divorce.

We'll always have areas of conflict, even long married couples still don't agree on everything.
But we have a household to run, and lots of work to do.

Why can't we focus on what we agree needs to be fixed or changed.
and quit trying to change each other's views of how we got here.

The common factor I have found in resolving conflicts
is FORGIVING our differences first, then the solutions to work them out come afterwards.

Can you please try this, try just agreeing to accept the other person
is coming from a different platform.
And try your best to work out points you actually AGREE on from there.

I probably agree a lot more with secular types like TAZ and others
who don't get religion TAG or Christianity.

Can we please focus on practical solutions that will help in the real world?

I'm posting a challenge to BreezeWood and also M.D about spiritual healing.
TAZ if you can help me out in the Bullring to set up the points to prove with science,
I think that can be resolved scientifically and have greater impact on society
than arguing about creation evolution and abiogenesis, where I'm okay with any combination of these. (In fact, I think we can better resolve these issues AFTER we establish the influence on healing relationships by forgiveness, which is the key factor in the spiritual healing studies I propose. So these other issues will get resolved AFTER, this isn't avoiding or denying them.)

The challenge to M.D. is to argue that spiritual healing is a better focus to prove FIRST
than TAG which will follow as a consequence. M.D. believes in spiritual healing,
and has better understanding of the importance of the science to demonstrate this,
but for some reason keeps focusing on TAG instead of spiritual healing when that
has better potential to be demonstrated by science, greater impact, and will actually
help to resolve conflicts about TAG.

So to be fair to BreezeWood I added this challenge to M.D. so they are equally called out.
If Justin Davis want to jump in the ring with M.D., then TAZ if you want to side with
BreezeWood that would balance it out in teams where we're not picking on any one person.

Thank you very much!
Yours truly,
Emily

 

[Hollie]

[

The diff I would say is that creationists have stopped looking and have settled on "it's my invisible friend". Whereas others are still looking, such as at abiogenesis. A closed mind versus an open mind still asking questions and searching for the real truth.

Abiogenesis is the leading THEORY! No one has closed their mind in the scientific community about this, the search goes on. But at least they don't close their minds and spout "it's my invisible friend who created everything".

The Wire - Associated Press: Taz declares the greatest scientific feat in history!

More tiresome ignorance from a know-nothing atheist. Prebiotic, monomeric precursors cannot and do not form the polymers of biology, let alone form any self-ordering structures of replication above the polymerization level of prebiotic chemistry. Professional scientists in prebiotic chemistry know this. The self-ordering properties of mere chemistry coupled with the physical laws of nature have never been observed to produce anything whatsoever above the infrastructural-level of ontology. Ever! The value of prebiotic chemistry (abiogenetic research) serves the enterprise of microbiological engineering only, and there are many creationist and ID scientists doing research in prebiotic chemistry.

Closed minded? What do you know about the science? Abiogenesis is no longer about demonstrating the actuality of nature producing life on its own, but about what prebiotic, monomeric precursors were available to the primordial world and about how the other indispensable prebiotic, monomeric precursors came to be.

Abiogenesis is not a theory, you ignoramus. It's a mere hypothesis and nothing more.

Theory?!

Look everybody. First, the mindless atheists/relativists of the USMB make the manifestly false claim that the theological axioms of human psychology hold that everything was created, including knowledge, apparently, beginning with logic. What philosophical or theological system of thought in history has ever asserted the imbecilic notion that divinity created everything? So according to some atheists/relativists, the theological axioms of human psychology hold that divinity didn't have the knowledge and the logic it needed in order to create the knowledge and the logic it needed until it created the knowledge and the logic it needed in order to create the knowledge and the logic it needed until it created the knowledge and the logic it needed. . . .

The egg! No! The chicken! No! The egg! No! The chicken! Fairies wear boots! You gotta believe me!

Are most atheists (1) imbeciles or (2) what?

Answer: Door number one!

Now, we have an atheist making the amazing claim that the Pasteurian theory of omne vivum ex vivo, i.e., all life is from life has been overthrown. When did that happen? Stop the presses! This is big news! This is a scientific breakthrough on the order of the discovery of the position-momentum dichotomy of subatomic particles in the wave-like systems of quantum physics! No wait! What am I talking about? This is a major story on the order of landing the first man on the moon! No wait! Landing the first man on the moon? What am I talking about? Taz has declared the greatest scientific feat in history!

Got ?

not an atheist, you dumbass.

I don't know why you're calling me a "dumbass." I'm not the one who said that abiogenesis was a scientific theory. And don't try to sell the nonsense that you're an agnostic. No real agnostics disregard the fact of the theological axioms of human psychology.

It's actually a simple matter to disregard your alleged "fact of the theological axioms of human psychology".

There is no such "fact" as you describe. Such "facts" seem to exist only in the twisted, skewed world of the religiously insane.

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

Religious zealot. How many more times are you going to cut and paste this same nonsense?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/posts/10253751/
Refuting the Relativist, Materialist and/or Atheist's Utter Insanity

 

[Hollie]

The hypocrisy and arrogance of atheism Page 99 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Refuting the Religious Zealots False Claims, Lies, Buffoonish Assumptions and Exposing The Pathology of Self Hate.

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

The hypocrisy and arrogance of atheism Page 99 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Refuting the Religious Zealots False Claims, Lies, Buffoonish Assumptions and Exposing The Pathology of Self Hate.

Sweet! Hollie refutes herself with her own words and arguments again: The hypocrisy and arrogance of atheism Page 99 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum, "Puttin' Hollie Down for The Seven Things™"!

 

[Justin Davis]

There is plenty of evidence of intelligent design
God did not make dogs.......they were intelligently designed by man
Same goes for cats, cows, chickens, sheep

Which makes a bird's nest intelligent design.

And what's the evidence for abiogenesis again?

There are many viable hypotheses. You wont find them at your Harun Yahya madrassah, though.

And what's the evidence for any of your polytheistic gawds?

So, you're going tell us all about abiogenesis right?

Abiogenesis is the leading THEORY! No one has closed their mind in the scientific community about this, the search goes on. But at least they don't close their minds and spout "it's my invisible friend who created everything".

So what's the substance of this "theory"?

 

[Hollie]

The hypocrisy and arrogance of atheism Page 99 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Refuting the Religious Zealots False Claims, Lies, Buffoonish Assumptions and Exposing The Pathology of Self Hate.

Sweet! Hollie refutes herself with her own words and arguments again: The hypocrisy and arrogance of atheism Page 99 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum, "Puttin' Hollie Down for The Seven Things™"!

Really, dude. You need to get back to drinking. At least you'll have a personality.

I see you're desperate to avoid the embarrassment of your failed arguments.

I'm putting you down as in agreement for the failure of The Seven Fraudulent Things™.

Before you post again and further demonstrate your incompetence, I should preview your posts so as to avoid your further deconstruction of the arguments you cut and paste.

 

[Taz]

Which makes a bird's nest intelligent design.

And what's the evidence for abiogenesis again?

There are many viable hypotheses. You wont find them at your Harun Yahya madrassah, though.

And what's the evidence for any of your polytheistic gawds?

So, you're going tell us all about abiogenesis right?

Abiogenesis is the leading THEORY! No one has closed their mind in the scientific community about this, the search goes on. But at least they don't close their minds and spout "it's my invisible friend who created everything".

So what's the substance of this "theory"?

Look it up fool.

 

[Taz]

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The diff I would say is that creationists have stopped looking and have settled on "it's my invisible friend". Whereas others are still looking, such as at abiogenesis. A closed mind versus an open mind still asking questions and searching for the real truth.

Abiogenesis is the leading THEORY! No one has closed their mind in the scientific community about this, the search goes on. But at least they don't close their minds and spout "it's my invisible friend who created everything".

The Wire - Associated Press: Taz declares the greatest scientific feat in history!

More tiresome ignorance from a know-nothing atheist. Prebiotic, monomeric precursors cannot and do not form the polymers of biology, let alone form any self-ordering structures of replication above the polymerization level of prebiotic chemistry. Professional scientists in prebiotic chemistry know this. The self-ordering properties of mere chemistry coupled with the physical laws of nature have never been observed to produce anything whatsoever above the infrastructural-level of ontology. Ever! The value of prebiotic chemistry (abiogenetic research) serves the enterprise of microbiological engineering only, and there are many creationist and ID scientists doing research in prebiotic chemistry.

Closed minded? What do you know about the science? Abiogenesis is no longer about demonstrating the actuality of nature producing life on its own, but about what prebiotic, monomeric precursors were available to the primordial world and about how the other indispensable prebiotic, monomeric precursors came to be.

Abiogenesis is not a theory, you ignoramus. It's a mere hypothesis and nothing more.

Theory?!

Look everybody. First, the mindless atheists/relativists of the USMB make the manifestly false claim that the theological axioms of human psychology hold that everything was created, including knowledge, apparently, beginning with logic. What philosophical or theological system of thought in history has ever asserted the imbecilic notion that divinity created everything? So according to some atheists/relativists, the theological axioms of human psychology hold that divinity didn't have the knowledge and the logic it needed in order to create the knowledge and the logic it needed until it created the knowledge and the logic it needed in order to create the knowledge and the logic it needed until it created the knowledge and the logic it needed. . . .

The egg! No! The chicken! No! The egg! No! The chicken! Fairies wear boots! You gotta believe me!

Are most atheists (1) imbeciles or (2) what?

Answer: Door number one!

Now, we have an atheist making the amazing claim that the Pasteurian theory of omne vivum ex vivo, i.e., all life is from life has been overthrown. When did that happen? Stop the presses! This is big news! This is a scientific breakthrough on the order of the discovery of the position-momentum dichotomy of subatomic particles in the wave-like systems of quantum physics! No wait! What am I talking about? This is a major story on the order of landing the first man on the moon! No wait! Landing the first man on the moon? What am I talking about? Taz has declared the greatest scientific feat in history!

Got ?

not an atheist, you dumbass.

I don't know why you're calling me a "dumbass." I'm not the one who said that abiogenesis was a scientific theory. And don't try to sell the nonsense that you're an agnostic. No real agnostics disregard the fact of the theological axioms of human psychology.

Your "theological axioms of human psychology" don't prove a god. Dumbass.