Palestinian identity ?

[P F Tinmore]

Front Page Rag and World Nut Daily are both Israeli propaganda organizations.

 

[rylah]

Front Page Rag and World Nut Daily are both Israeli propaganda organizations.

Calling it 'propaganda' is not a reason to dismiss the points presented.
If You have anything substantial to say please do.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Front Page Rag and World Nut Daily are both Israeli propaganda organizations.

Calling it 'propaganda' is not a reason to dismiss the points presented.
If You have anything substantial to say please do.

They are propaganda because of the points presented.

 

[rylah]

Front Page Rag and World Nut Daily are both Israeli propaganda organizations.

Calling it 'propaganda' is not a reason to dismiss the points presented.
If You have anything substantial to say please do.

They are propaganda because of the points presented.

You still haven't presented anything.

Why do You fuel the hate between those 2 close peoples?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Front Page Rag and World Nut Daily are both Israeli propaganda organizations.

Calling it 'propaganda' is not a reason to dismiss the points presented.
If You have anything substantial to say please do.

They are propaganda because of the points presented.

You still haven't presented anything.

Why do You fuel the hate between those 2 close peoples?

The Israeli assholes fuel their own hate.

 

[Sixties Fan]

How the Palestinian People were born (but Jew haters will never own up to it ) :

The emergence of a distinctive Palestinian entity is thus a product of the last decades and may be seen as the joint creation of Israel and the Arab states葉he one by extruding the Arabs of Palestine, the others by refusing to accept them. According to pan-Arab or even pan-Syrian ideologies, Palestinian Arabs moving to Lebanon, Syria, or Jordan should still have been men in their own country, moving from one province to another. The bitter experience of the past twenty-seven years has shown that this is not so and, as so often before, deprivation has created a new sense of identity based on shared experience, desperation, and aspiration.And that is born out by the following graphs:

The first graph shows the usage of the words "" and "" in books published in English from 1800 to 2008.



While the phrase "Palestinian Jew" was common from about 1825, back then the phrase "Palestinian Arab was practically unknown. That began to change around 1915 -- during WWI and increased during the British Mandate and spiked following the 1967 Six Day War.




The next graph illustrates that as the phrase "Palestinian Arab" became more common, so too did the word "Palestinian" which we know today is associated with the Palestinian Arabs in particular.

(full article online)

Arab Palestinians Originally Hated the Word -- Yet Here We Are (Daled Amos) ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[montelatici]

Not one mention of Israel from a real historian.


"91. From that division which begins with the city of Posideion, founded by
Amphilochos the son of Amphiaraos on the borders of the Kilikians and the
Syrians, and extends as far as Egypt, not including the territory of the
Arabians (for this was free from payment), the amount was three hundred and
fifty talents; and in this division are the whole of Phenicia and Syria
which is called Palestine and Cyprus: this is the fifth division.


Now in the line stretching to Phenicia from the land of the Persians the
land is broad and the space abundant, but after Phenicia this peninsula goes
by the shore of our Sea along Palestine, Syria, and Egypt, where it ends;
and in it there are three nations only."

Herodotus "Histories" circa 450 BC.

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2707

 

[montelatici]

Or a more recent Jewish historian.

"As neither the Byzantines nor the Muslims carried out any large-scale population resettlement projects, the Christians were the offspring of the Jewish and Samaritan farmers who converted to Christianity in the Byzantine period; while the Muslim fellaheen in Palestine in modern times are descendants of those Christians who were the descendants of Jews, and had turned to Islam before the Crusaders’ conquest."

Professor Maxime Rodinson, Professor of law at the Sorbonne University in Paris, . Israel and the Arabs, 1968.

Israel and the Arabs

Try the snippets if you don't want to buy the book.

 

[rylah]

Not one mention of Israel from a real historian.


"91. From that division which begins with the city of Posideion, founded by
Amphilochos the son of Amphiaraos on the borders of the Kilikians and the
Syrians, and extends as far as Egypt, not including the territory of the
Arabians (for this was free from payment), the amount was three hundred and
fifty talents; and in this division are the whole of Phenicia and Syria
which is called Palestine and Cyprus: this is the fifth division.


Now in the line stretching to Phenicia from the land of the Persians the
land is broad and the space abundant, but after Phenicia this peninsula goes
by the shore of our Sea along Palestine, Syria, and Egypt, where it ends;
and in it there are three nations only."

Herodotus "Histories" circa 450 BC.

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2707

Really not ONE mention of Israelites in history?

oh professor...

 

[P F Tinmore]

How the Palestinian People were born (but Jew haters will never own up to it ) :

The emergence of a distinctive Palestinian entity is thus a product of the last decades and may be seen as the joint creation of Israel and the Arab states葉he one by extruding the Arabs of Palestine, the others by refusing to accept them. According to pan-Arab or even pan-Syrian ideologies, Palestinian Arabs moving to Lebanon, Syria, or Jordan should still have been men in their own country, moving from one province to another. The bitter experience of the past twenty-seven years has shown that this is not so and, as so often before, deprivation has created a new sense of identity based on shared experience, desperation, and aspiration.And that is born out by the following graphs:

The first graph shows the usage of the words "" and "" in books published in English from 1800 to 2008.



While the phrase "Palestinian Jew" was common from about 1825, back then the phrase "Palestinian Arab was practically unknown. That began to change around 1915 -- during WWI and increased during the British Mandate and spiked following the 1967 Six Day War.




The next graph illustrates that as the phrase "Palestinian Arab" became more common, so too did the word "Palestinian" which we know today is associated with the Palestinian Arabs in particular.

(full article online)

Arab Palestinians Originally Hated the Word -- Yet Here We Are (Daled Amos) ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

A rose by any other name...

 

[montelatici]

Not one mention of Israel from a real historian.


"91. From that division which begins with the city of Posideion, founded by
Amphilochos the son of Amphiaraos on the borders of the Kilikians and the
Syrians, and extends as far as Egypt, not including the territory of the
Arabians (for this was free from payment), the amount was three hundred and
fifty talents; and in this division are the whole of Phenicia and Syria
which is called Palestine and Cyprus: this is the fifth division.


Now in the line stretching to Phenicia from the land of the Persians the
land is broad and the space abundant, but after Phenicia this peninsula goes
by the shore of our Sea along Palestine, Syria, and Egypt, where it ends;
and in it there are three nations only."

Herodotus "Histories" circa 450 BC.

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2707

Really not ONE mention of Israelites in history?

oh professor...

"Histories" is what Herodotus's work is called. LOL You really aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

 

[rylah]

Not one mention of Israel from a real historian.


"91. From that division which begins with the city of Posideion, founded by
Amphilochos the son of Amphiaraos on the borders of the Kilikians and the
Syrians, and extends as far as Egypt, not including the territory of the
Arabians (for this was free from payment), the amount was three hundred and
fifty talents; and in this division are the whole of Phenicia and Syria
which is called Palestine and Cyprus: this is the fifth division.


Now in the line stretching to Phenicia from the land of the Persians the
land is broad and the space abundant, but after Phenicia this peninsula goes
by the shore of our Sea along Palestine, Syria, and Egypt, where it ends;
and in it there are three nations only."

Herodotus "Histories" circa 450 BC.

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2707

Really not ONE mention of Israelites in history?

oh professor...

"Histories" is what Herodotus's work is called. LOL You really aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

You wrote:
"Not one mention of Israel from a real historian".

And I ask again: not ONE mention of Israelites from authoritative historians?

 

[montelatici]

Herodotus is the only acknowleged authoritative historian from that era that we have.

 

[rylah]

Herodotus is the only acknowleged authoritative historian from that era that we have.

So all Your knowledge of history in that area comes from one single historian?
Interesting, I'll investigate.

 

[rylah]

However what's the reason the Palestinian Arabs hold on to their occupiers' culture so hard?
Why not go back to the roots?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestinian identity was established by law at the end of WWI.

So why the debate?

 

[Hollie]

Palestinian identity was established by law at the end of WWI.

So why the debate?

Actually, "Pal'istanian" as an invented identity was not established until about 1967 when Yassir Arafat invented "Pal'istanian" as a slogan to add a national identity to an invented people.

That invention has morphed into a forever UN sponsored welfare fraud and quite a collection of Islamic terrorist franchises, all sucking on the welfare fraud spigot.

 

[rylah]

Palestinian identity was established by law at the end of WWI.

So why the debate?

Heritage is stronger than any ink on a piece of paper.
The debate is because it seems Palestinians so much oppose 'occupation' while at the same time hold on to occupiers culture, as if they've lost all connection to their roots

Speaking foreign language, no distinct culture...they prefer occupiers' identity (Roman/Arab) while denying anything that originally came from the land, and their brothers - Jews, who're culturally more Palestinian than themselves.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestinian identity was established by law at the end of WWI.

So why the debate?

Actually, "Pal'istanian" as an invented identity was not established until about 1967 when Yassir Arafat invented "Pal'istanian" as a slogan to add a national identity to an invented people.

That invention has morphed into a forever UN sponsored welfare fraud and quite a collection of Islamic terrorist franchises, all sucking on the welfare fraud spigot.

You are shoveling Israeli shit, as usual.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestinian identity was established by law at the end of WWI.

So why the debate?

Heritage is stronger than any ink on a piece of paper.
The debate is because it seems Palestinians so much oppose 'occupation' while at the same time hold on to occupiers culture, as if they've lost all connection to their roots

Speaking foreign language, no distinct culture...they prefer occupiers' identity (Roman/Arab) while denying anything that originally came from the land, and their brothers - Jews, who're culturally more Palestinian than themselves.

The Palestinians are Palestinian by law. They are citizens of Palestine by law. Palestine is defined by international borders.

Israeli blabber cannot change any of that.