Open season on our elections

[bripat9643]

She used an American law firm to launder the transaction. Everyone involved in the transaction knew what was going on.

Who do you think you're fooling?

Nothing was "laundered" or hidden. Fusion GPS is an American company and Orbis was a Brithish company. They aren't criminal enterprises, dope.

If these outfits are MAKING UP LIES in a dossier to get a fake FISA warrant, they are indeed criminal enterprises.

Remember, INNOCENT Americans like Carter Page were spied on by liberal operatives. And that's a crime

If these outfits are MAKING UP LIES in a dossier to get a fake FISA warrant, they are indeed criminal enterprises.

Remember, INNOCENT Americans like Carter Page were spied on by liberal operatives. And that's a crime

Why do you feel the need to mischaracterize all of this?

Nothing in the dossier has been proven to be "lies" or "made up", liar.

Sure it has, the dossier has Mike Cohen in Prague, something which has never been demonstrated. And where are the DNA blotches from the allegedly ruined mattresses?

I bet Lefty forgot about DNA. If there was one thing The Trump Hating Comey Clan could have did, it was verify DNA from Trump and the two hookers.

My guess is that Hillary just refashioned a story from one of her and Bill's Bisexual Orgies on The Lolita Express, and just inserted Trump's name in to it.

Maybe Trump's DNA is on Adam Schiff's Face. Maybe that is the evidence Adam Schiff was talking about that he still has yet to produce.

I hope he gets hit by a Trump Campaign Bus in 2020.

There is nothing to validate: no booking, no witnesses, not even the names of the prostitutes.

 

[The Original Tree]

So funny that every leftard here can't grasp the simple concept that information is not a monetary contribution. Thus it is not illegal to accept it. I believe their term in 2016 was "opposition research". Every politician in Washington or anywhere else would take any information they could get on their opponent. But the meltdowns here are becoming epic.

BULL SHIT If that was Hillary in the WH saying she'd accept help from foreign countries republican AH's would string her up

The dumb bitch did more than accept such “intel”... she paid a foreign entity to manufacture some. Fuck off off you hypocritical twat.

"She", her Campaign, paid a law firm to do research, liar.

She laundered Money to Russia to ask Putin to help her Defeat The ORANGE MENACE!

You Likah SUCKAH POOTIN'S COCKAH?

 

[The Original Tree]

LOL...
Nowhere does the link say they tried to hide anything, dope.

Dope? Really? Is that you're level of discourse?

The campaign and party "routed the money through the law firm Perkins Coie and described the purpose as 'legal services' on their FEC reports rather than research," the CLC said online in announcing the complaint. "By law, campaign and party committees must disclose the reason money is spent and its recipient."

Opposition research is not legal services and by including it the $5 million she paid to Perkins Coie and describing it as "legal services" she's hiding it.

That's from two years ago anyway. Where are we with that "investigation" now?

Still pending.

He's confused by the word discourse.
He's also confused by the word intercourse.
That and which bathroom to use are perplexing to him...it.

 

[bripat9643]

Fusion GPS hired Steele's firm, dope.

More importantly, the law prohibits accepting donations from foreigners. Stelle's report was not a donation. That's why, in more than two years, a Republican DoJ didn't investigate the wrongdoing that wasn't. Everyone with a hint of a clue knows that, and that's why you hear nothing about it from anyone unless they're paid to lie about it.

Wrong. The real reason is that Comey ran the FBI, Brennan ran the CIA and Lynch ran the DOJ. Trump didn't want to touch it because he knew the fake new media would accuse him of "obstruction." Sessions was a spineless weasel.

The FEC has ruled consistently that facts are not a thing of value as far as political campaigns are concerned.

 

[The Original Tree]

Nothing was "laundered" or hidden. Fusion GPS is an American company and Orbis was a Brithish company. They aren't criminal enterprises, dope.

If these outfits are MAKING UP LIES in a dossier to get a fake FISA warrant, they are indeed criminal enterprises.

Remember, INNOCENT Americans like Carter Page were spied on by liberal operatives. And that's a crime

If these outfits are MAKING UP LIES in a dossier to get a fake FISA warrant, they are indeed criminal enterprises.

Remember, INNOCENT Americans like Carter Page were spied on by liberal operatives. And that's a crime

Why do you feel the need to mischaracterize all of this?

Nothing in the dossier has been proven to be "lies" or "made up", liar.

Sure it has, the dossier has Mike Cohen in Prague, something which has never been demonstrated. And where are the DNA blotches from the allegedly ruined mattresses?

I bet Lefty forgot about DNA. If there was one thing The Trump Hating Comey Clan could have did, it was verify DNA from Trump and the two hookers.

My guess is that Hillary just refashioned a story from one of her and Bill's Bisexual Orgies on The Lolita Express, and just inserted Trump's name in to it.

Maybe Trump's DNA is on Adam Schiff's Face. Maybe that is the evidence Adam Schiff was talking about that he still has yet to produce.

I hope he gets hit by a Trump Campaign Bus in 2020.

There is nothing to validate: no booking, no witnesses, not even the names of the prostitutes.

Correctomundo!

 

[bripat9643]

So funny that every leftard here can't grasp the simple concept that information is not a monetary contribution. Thus it is not illegal to accept it. I believe their term in 2016 was "opposition research". Every politician in Washington or anywhere else would take any information they could get on their opponent. But the meltdowns here are becoming epic.

BULL SHIT If that was Hillary in the WH saying she'd accept help from foreign countries republican AH's would string her up

The dumb bitch did more than accept such “intel”... she paid a foreign entity to manufacture some. Fuck off off you hypocritical twat.

"She", her Campaign, paid a law firm to do research, liar.

Money laundering.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Absolves her of what? The Clinton campaign and the DNC were paying for opposition research.
When Steele realized he had found far more than that, he contacted the FBI.
Do you know if either the Clinton campaign or the DNC ever acually received a completed copy of the dossier? Did they use it in any way?

I think it would have been helpful if Mueller looked into that during his investigation of Russian interference in the election. Perhaps AG Barr's new investigation will have some answers. Rumor has it that they are talking to Steele soon.

Mueller was not tasked to look at that. Why would he? A former British intel officer sharing intel with the US is neither uncommon nor suspicious.

I encourage you to gain a perspective other than the trumpian narratives.
Christopher Steele, the Man Behind the Trump Dossier

His partner was a Russian named Skirpal, and was a Russian Spy, so Clinton and Obama were dealing directly with Russians.

Obama had nothing to do with it and the Clinton campaign hired a law firm to do the research, dope.

Sorry, but Obama paid $1 Million of his own money towards The Russian Collusion Scam, and not only that he was ALL IN on the Unmasking, The Spying, and The COUP, as he was kept informed at every juncture.

What the Obamas’ $65 million book advance actually means

He probably paid The $1 Million out of the $64 Million he got from a Russian backed Publisher for the book advance for a book he NEVER WROTE.

Team Obama Paid Nearly $1M to Law Firm That Paid Fusion
https://www.realclearinvestigations...y_1m_to_law_firm_that_paid_fusion_118404.html

FEC: Obama Paid $1 Million To Fusion GPS To Fund 'Piss-Gate' Dossier

Slimy George Soros also pitched in.

George Soros gave $1M to group that paid for Fusion GPS research


Obama may be the first president in US History to actually end up in jail after leaving office, and Hillary Clinton may be the first presidential candidate to do the same.

Wow, you've posted a complete picture of Obama and his dastardly deeds, conspiring with HRC, the DNC and other ne`er do wells. Thank you so much for once again enlightening us and proving with such probity your clear, concise and credible investigations.




SARCASM ALERT

 

[The Original Tree]

Fusion GPS hired Steele's firm, dope.

More importantly, the law prohibits accepting donations from foreigners. Stelle's report was not a donation. That's why, in more than two years, a Republican DoJ didn't investigate the wrongdoing that wasn't. Everyone with a hint of a clue knows that, and that's why you hear nothing about it from anyone unless they're paid to lie about it.

Wrong. The real reason is that Comey ran the FBI, Brennan ran the CIA and Lynch ran the DOJ. Trump didn't want to touch it because he knew the fake new media would accuse him of "obstruction." Sessions was a spineless weasel.

The FEC has ruled consistently that facts are not a thing of value as far as political campaigns are concerned.

You Crazy WIF FACTS and TROOF and SHIT!

 

[The Original Tree]

I think it would have been helpful if Mueller looked into that during his investigation of Russian interference in the election. Perhaps AG Barr's new investigation will have some answers. Rumor has it that they are talking to Steele soon.

Mueller was not tasked to look at that. Why would he? A former British intel officer sharing intel with the US is neither uncommon nor suspicious.

I encourage you to gain a perspective other than the trumpian narratives.
Christopher Steele, the Man Behind the Trump Dossier

His partner was a Russian named Skirpal, and was a Russian Spy, so Clinton and Obama were dealing directly with Russians.

Obama had nothing to do with it and the Clinton campaign hired a law firm to do the research, dope.

Sorry, but Obama paid $1 Million of his own money towards The Russian Collusion Scam, and not only that he was ALL IN on the Unmasking, The Spying, and The COUP, as he was kept informed at every juncture.

What the Obamas’ $65 million book advance actually means

He probably paid The $1 Million out of the $64 Million he got from a Russian backed Publisher for the book advance for a book he NEVER WROTE.

Team Obama Paid Nearly $1M to Law Firm That Paid Fusion
https://www.realclearinvestigations...y_1m_to_law_firm_that_paid_fusion_118404.html

FEC: Obama Paid $1 Million To Fusion GPS To Fund 'Piss-Gate' Dossier

Slimy George Soros also pitched in.

George Soros gave $1M to group that paid for Fusion GPS research


Obama may be the first president in US History to actually end up in jail after leaving office, and Hillary Clinton may be the first presidential candidate to do the same.

Wow, you've posted a complete picture of Obama and his dastardly deeds, conspiring with HRC, the DNC and other ne`er do wells. Thank you so much for once again enlightening us and proving with such probity your clear, concise and credible investigations.




SARCASM ALERT

Obama once made a Deal with The Devil.....then Reneged on it.

 

[The Original Tree]

So funny that every leftard here can't grasp the simple concept that information is not a monetary contribution. Thus it is not illegal to accept it. I believe their term in 2016 was "opposition research". Every politician in Washington or anywhere else would take any information they could get on their opponent. But the meltdowns here are becoming epic.

BULL SHIT If that was Hillary in the WH saying she'd accept help from foreign countries republican AH's would string her up

The dumb bitch did more than accept such “intel”... she paid a foreign entity to manufacture some. Fuck off off you hypocritical twat.

"She", her Campaign, paid a law firm to do research, liar.

Money laundering.

Clinton Cash Baby

$1.5 Billion to Buy The White House.

Credit Declined

 

[bripat9643]

LOL...
Nowhere does the link say they tried to hide anything, dope.

Dope? Really? Is that you're level of discourse?

The campaign and party "routed the money through the law firm Perkins Coie and described the purpose as 'legal services' on their FEC reports rather than research," the CLC said online in announcing the complaint. "By law, campaign and party committees must disclose the reason money is spent and its recipient."

Opposition research is not legal services and by including it the $5 million she paid to Perkins Coie and describing it as "legal services" she's hiding it.

That's from two years ago anyway. Where are we with that "investigation" now?

Still pending.

I think lying about such expenditures is a felony.

 

[Rawley]

The DNC did NOT go directly to the Ukrainian government. The woman who approached the Ukraines didn't work for either the DNC or the Clinton Campaign.

A bit early for hitting the pipe, isn't it? She worked for the DNC. I saw your alleged distinction yesterday that she was a 1099 versus W2 employee. That doesn't pass the laugh test.

 

[The Original Tree]

-You're being obtuse because I have answered the question of why it matters at least five times in the course of this OP. Two of those times in answer to you asking that question. If someone answers a question 5 times just to have the other person posing the same question I conclude you are obtuse. Giving you the benefit of the doubt that you don't simply have reading comprehension problems.
-Yes, it could be all those things. It doesn't explain why you jump to wanting to make the point that because of Democrats having problems with Trump saying he would accept "dirt" from foreign governments means the Democrats have done something illegal. Just to go to logical fallacies again, it's called Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Making causal jumps without proper justification.

What we are struggling with is the Democrats' and media's "outrage" over the President's comments when Hillary solicited and accepted opposition research from foreign nationals, the DNC solicited and accepted opposition research from foreign nationals.

This exposes the outrage as politically motivated and completely disingenuous.

You struggle with something that is not comparable then. Both legally, from a national security standpoint and from a standpoint of severity. Hiring a law firm to do opposition research who then hires a British PRIVATE citizen is not even remotely the same as accepting help from the Russian government or the Chinese government as Trump said in the interview. If you can't see the difference between the 2 instances I can't help you.

The DNC went directly to the Ukraine government. You OK with that?

And think about your Hillary argument. Using a cutout, a lawfirm, to get the exact same information from the exact same people is legal and more secure? Why isn't the lawfirm breaking the law, or risking our national security.

The DNC did NOT go directly to the Ukrainian government. The woman who approached the Ukraines didn't work for either the DNC or the Clinton Campaign.

There is a process by which opposition research can be conducted legally, obtaining information, which is to use an arm's length third party, which is what the Clinton Campaign. In the case of the Clintons, none of Fusion GPS, Christopher Steele or any of his sources knew who the end client was. That was also true of the first Republican client who originally commissioned the work.

Today Trump said that if he was given truly compromising information about illegal activity, he would turn it over to the FBI. Which is EXACTLY what the Clinton Campaign and Christopher Steele DID, and which Trump is now trying to prosecute them for doing.

As for the Dossier being made up and full of lies, I don't think so:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...t-mueller-report-said/?utm_term=.bd1aa689f10c

Nearly everything in the Dossier was true. All the important stuff has been verified.

So Steele, Skirpal. Clinton and Obama turned themselves in for the crimes they committed soliciting the help of Putin to defeat Trump?

First I heard of that.

Maybe they do have some honor.

 

[The Original Tree]

LOL...
Nowhere does the link say they tried to hide anything, dope.

Dope? Really? Is that you're level of discourse?

The campaign and party "routed the money through the law firm Perkins Coie and described the purpose as 'legal services' on their FEC reports rather than research," the CLC said online in announcing the complaint. "By law, campaign and party committees must disclose the reason money is spent and its recipient."

Opposition research is not legal services and by including it the $5 million she paid to Perkins Coie and describing it as "legal services" she's hiding it.

That's from two years ago anyway. Where are we with that "investigation" now?

Still pending.

I think lying about such expenditures is a felony.

Remember Sparky, Lefty doesn't think lying and perjury are crimes.
He also thing hairy man butt is sexy, and killing babies is a religious experience.

 

[Rawley]

Fusion GPS hired Steele's firm, dope.

More importantly, the law prohibits accepting donations from foreigners. Stelle's report was not a donation.

Want to share that with your fellow lefties that are ready to hang the Peesident for treason about his response to the hypothetical question of accepting information from foreigners?

That's why, in more than two years, a Republican DoJ didn't investigate the wrongdoing that wasn't. Everyone with a hint of a clue knows that, and that's why you hear nothing about it from anyone unless they're paid to lie about it.

Uh, there was the little matter of he Mueller investigation. Now that is over, the DOJ is looking at Steele.

 

[Rawley]

I think lying about such expenditures is a felony.

More a matter of FEC enforcement (fines). But the FEC is run by a Democrat, which is most likely the reason why that investigation has been buried.

 

[Care4all]

The DNC did NOT go directly to the Ukrainian government. The woman who approached the Ukraines didn't work for either the DNC or the Clinton Campaign.

A bit early for hitting the pipe, isn't it? She worked for the DNC. I saw your alleged distinction yesterday that she was a 1099 versus W2 employee. That doesn't pass the laugh test.

the information on Manafort that the woman got from an employee that worked for the Ukraine Embassy was PUBLIC INFORMATION from a case that anyone, absolutely anyone, could have gotten. It was not some secret document that the Ukranian government sought out or stole to supply the Clinton campaign with help only the intel agencies or higher up government had available to them.

It had NO VALUE, it was PUBLIC INFORMATION.

The Ukrainian government was not needed to get the information on Manafort, the Embassy employee was not needed to get the Manafort information, they did not hold anything secret over Clinton's head and expect some secret favor in return, down the road.

UNLIKE the Russian government's systemic help with getting Trump elected....

 

[The Original Tree]

The DNC did NOT go directly to the Ukrainian government. The woman who approached the Ukraines didn't work for either the DNC or the Clinton Campaign.

A bit early for hitting the pipe, isn't it? She worked for the DNC. I saw your alleged distinction yesterday that she was a 1099 versus W2 employee. That doesn't pass the laugh test.

the information on Manafort that the woman got from an employee that worked for the Ukraine Embassy was PUBLIC INFORMATION from a case that anyone, absolutely anyone, could have gotten. It was not some secret document that the Ukranian government sought out or stole to supply the Clinton campaign with help only the intel agencies or higher up government had available to them.

It had NO VALUE, it was PUBLIC INFORMATION.

The Ukrainian government was not needed to get the information on Manafort, the Embassy employee was not needed to get the Manafort information, they did not hold anything secret over Clinton's head and expect some secret favor in return, down the road.

UNLIKE the Russian government's systemic help with getting Trump elected....

Russia only helped Clinton and that is a fact. Or do you conveniently forget The "Not My President" and Pussy Hat Marches?

Otherwise there would not have been a Dirty Russian Dossier paid for by Obama Bin Lying and UberCunt Hillary Von Cankles McPutin.

Then you get to Manafort......you are an amateur.....anything he did, was done for Clinton, Obama, and The Podesta Group in conjuntion with Joe Biden's Work in The Ukraine.

Like, how do you fail on a fail, fall down on top of a fail and then you can't get up?

 

[Rawley]

The DNC did NOT go directly to the Ukrainian government. The woman who approached the Ukraines didn't work for either the DNC or the Clinton Campaign.

A bit early for hitting the pipe, isn't it? She worked for the DNC. I saw your alleged distinction yesterday that she was a 1099 versus W2 employee. That doesn't pass the laugh test.

the information on Manafort that the woman got from an employee that worked for the Ukraine Embassy was PUBLIC INFORMATION from a case that anyone, absolutely anyone, could have gotten. It was not some secret document that the Ukranian government sought out or stole to supply the Clinton campaign with help only the intel agencies or higher up government had available to them.

It had NO VALUE, it was PUBLIC INFORMATION.

The Ukrainian government was not needed to get the information on Manafort, the Embassy employee was not needed to get the Manafort information, they did not hold anything secret over Clinton's head and expect some secret favor in return, down the road.

I frankly don't care if it was the Kiev phone books. She reached out the Ukranian gvt to get dirt on Manafort. Democrats and the media are birthing kittens at Trump's suggestion that he listen to foreigners if they has opposition research. The hypocrisy can't get much more rank.

UNLIKE the Russian government's systemic help with getting Trump elected....

You funny

 

[Rawley]

Sorry guys, but I'm returning to the Badlands. It's a bit too constricting having to stay on one topic per thread.

I think our thread down there is called Make America Great Again. You are all invited

It's been fun. Later.