obama's christmas tree tax

Oh so it's a completely voluntary "Tax/Fee?" Seriously,are the Big Government folks really spinning it that way? If it's a voluntary Tax/Fee,the Government shouldn't be looking to fine or imprison anyone who doesn't pay it right? But i'll believe that when i see it. No Government Tax/Fee is voluntary.

Yep, and there is also no such thing as a temporary tax, or permanent press.
 
"Voluntary Tax" lol! You gotta hand it to the Big Government folks,they really have learned how to spin Big Government oppression into heart-warming fairy tales. "Voluntary Tax." Man,that's a good one.
 
"Voluntary Tax" lol! You gotta hand it to the Big Government folks,they really have learned how to spin Big Government oppression into heart-warming fairy tales. "Voluntary Tax." Man,that's a good one.

no tax is really voluntary :lol:

We'll see how voluntary their Tax is when some growers refuse to pay it. I suspect the Government aint gonna be happy. Just a hunch anyway. The Big Goverment folks do crack me up.
 
"Voluntary Tax" lol! You gotta hand it to the Big Government folks,they really have learned how to spin Big Government oppression into heart-warming fairy tales. "Voluntary Tax." Man,that's a good one.

no tax is really voluntary :lol:

Your elected officials enacted it. That makes it voluntary

Probably not mine. And it's far from voluntary. Nice Big Government spin though. I do have to give you guys credit on that. Funny stuff. :)
 
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Tree Farmers Blast ‘Sinister’ ‘Smear’ Of ‘Obama’s Christmas Tree Tax’

By Ryan J. Reilly-November 9, 2011

No, America, President Obama didn’t impose a 15-cent tax on Christmas trees because he “Hates Christians,” or because he’s keen to launch another front in the War on Christmas. Christmas tree growers had the plan all along.

Remember those “Got Milk?” and “Beef, It’s What’s For Dinner” ads? Well, Christmas tree farmers and retailers thought those are pretty nifty. Plus, with more and more people buying artificial trees instead of the natural ones, they wanted to protect their brand. So three years ago — before Obama took office — a group of them started studying the pluses and minuses of starting a so-called “checkoff promotion and research program” of their very own.

“It has absolutely nothing to do with Obama, it’s not a tax,” National Christmas Tree Association spokesman Rick Dungey told TPM. “I’m slowly but surely narrowing down who the culprits are who put out that sinister little statement for whatever reasons there were.”

“Growers have been working on this for three and a half years,” Dungey added. “It’s just sort of interesting timing, and unfortunately somebody decided to smear it. It’s growers pooling their money to promote the crop that they grow on their farms.”

More: Tree Farmers Blast ‘Sinister’ ‘Smear’ Of ‘Obama’s Christmas Tree Tax’ | TPMMuckraker
 
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Tree Farmers Blast ‘Sinister’ ‘Smear’ Of ‘Obama’s Christmas Tree Tax’

By Ryan J. Reilly-November 9, 2011

No, America, President Obama didn’t impose a 15-cent tax on Christmas trees because he “Hates Christians,” or because he’s keen to launch another front in the War on Christmas. Christmas tree growers had the plan all along.

Remember those “Got Milk?” and “Beef, It’s What’s For Dinner” ads? Well, Christmas tree farmers and retailers thought those are pretty nifty. Plus, with more and more people buying artificial trees instead of the natural ones, they wanted to protect their brand. So three years ago — before Obama took office — a group of them started studying the pluses and minuses of starting a so-called “checkoff promotion and research program” of their very own.

“It has absolutely nothing to do with Obama, it’s not a tax,” National Christmas Tree Association spokesman Rick Dungey told TPM. “I’m slowly but surely narrowing down who the culprits are who put out that sinister little statement for whatever reasons there were.”

“Growers have been working on this for three and a half years,” Dungey added. “It’s just sort of interesting timing, and unfortunately somebody decided to smear it. It’s growers pooling their money to promote the crop that they grow on their farms.”

More: Tree Farmers Blast ‘Sinister’ ‘Smear’ Of ‘Obama’s Christmas Tree Tax’ | TPMMuckraker
You didn't think they would take it sitting down do you?
 
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Tree Farmers Blast ‘Sinister’ ‘Smear’ Of ‘Obama’s Christmas Tree Tax’

By Ryan J. Reilly-November 9, 2011

No, America, President Obama didn’t impose a 15-cent tax on Christmas trees because he “Hates Christians,” or because he’s keen to launch another front in the War on Christmas. Christmas tree growers had the plan all along.

Remember those “Got Milk?” and “Beef, It’s What’s For Dinner” ads? Well, Christmas tree farmers and retailers thought those are pretty nifty. Plus, with more and more people buying artificial trees instead of the natural ones, they wanted to protect their brand. So three years ago — before Obama took office — a group of them started studying the pluses and minuses of starting a so-called “checkoff promotion and research program” of their very own.

“It has absolutely nothing to do with Obama, it’s not a tax,” National Christmas Tree Association spokesman Rick Dungey told TPM. “I’m slowly but surely narrowing down who the culprits are who put out that sinister little statement for whatever reasons there were.”

“Growers have been working on this for three and a half years,” Dungey added. “It’s just sort of interesting timing, and unfortunately somebody decided to smear it. It’s growers pooling their money to promote the crop that they grow on their farms.”

More: Tree Farmers Blast ‘Sinister’ ‘Smear’ Of ‘Obama’s Christmas Tree Tax’ | TPMMuckraker
You didn't think they would take it sitting down do you?

Huh? Who are "they"...?
 
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Tree Farmers Blast ‘Sinister’ ‘Smear’ Of ‘Obama’s Christmas Tree Tax’

By Ryan J. Reilly-November 9, 2011

No, America, President Obama didn’t impose a 15-cent tax on Christmas trees because he “Hates Christians,” or because he’s keen to launch another front in the War on Christmas. Christmas tree growers had the plan all along.

Remember those “Got Milk?” and “Beef, It’s What’s For Dinner” ads? Well, Christmas tree farmers and retailers thought those are pretty nifty. Plus, with more and more people buying artificial trees instead of the natural ones, they wanted to protect their brand. So three years ago — before Obama took office — a group of them started studying the pluses and minuses of starting a so-called “checkoff promotion and research program” of their very own.

“It has absolutely nothing to do with Obama, it’s not a tax,” National Christmas Tree Association spokesman Rick Dungey told TPM. “I’m slowly but surely narrowing down who the culprits are who put out that sinister little statement for whatever reasons there were.”

“Growers have been working on this for three and a half years,” Dungey added. “It’s just sort of interesting timing, and unfortunately somebody decided to smear it. It’s growers pooling their money to promote the crop that they grow on their farms.”

More: Tree Farmers Blast ‘Sinister’ ‘Smear’ Of ‘Obama’s Christmas Tree Tax’ | TPMMuckraker

Typical tax fear mongering from the rightwing propaganda machine. Christmas tree growers face competition from artificial trees. They were wiling to pay extra taxes for a collective ad campaign on the merits and beauty of a real tree

Republicans fucked them over
 
This is a very slimy & weasly Tax. They pretend to be helping the Christmas Tree industry while screwing them and Taxpayers. This is another classic Socialist/Progressive Democrat dirty trick. Time to give these creeps the boot.

How is this "screwing the industry", when they voted to impose this on themselves? :doubt:

Clearly armchair politicians are more qualified to decide what is best for the christmas tree industry than that industry is.
 
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Tree Farmers Blast ‘Sinister’ ‘Smear’ Of ‘Obama’s Christmas Tree Tax’

By Ryan J. Reilly-November 9, 2011

No, America, President Obama didn’t impose a 15-cent tax on Christmas trees because he “Hates Christians,” or because he’s keen to launch another front in the War on Christmas. Christmas tree growers had the plan all along.

Remember those “Got Milk?” and “Beef, It’s What’s For Dinner” ads? Well, Christmas tree farmers and retailers thought those are pretty nifty. Plus, with more and more people buying artificial trees instead of the natural ones, they wanted to protect their brand. So three years ago — before Obama took office — a group of them started studying the pluses and minuses of starting a so-called “checkoff promotion and research program” of their very own.

“It has absolutely nothing to do with Obama, it’s not a tax,” National Christmas Tree Association spokesman Rick Dungey told TPM. “I’m slowly but surely narrowing down who the culprits are who put out that sinister little statement for whatever reasons there were.”

“Growers have been working on this for three and a half years,” Dungey added. “It’s just sort of interesting timing, and unfortunately somebody decided to smear it. It’s growers pooling their money to promote the crop that they grow on their farms.”

More: Tree Farmers Blast ‘Sinister’ ‘Smear’ Of ‘Obama’s Christmas Tree Tax’ | TPMMuckraker

Typical tax fear mongering from the rightwing propaganda machine. Christmas tree growers face competition from artificial trees. They were wiling to pay extra taxes for a collective ad campaign on the merits and beauty of a real tree

Republicans fucked them over

Yea sure,those imaginary volunteer Taxes. What about those who don't want to pay this "volunteer" tax? Can they opt out? This thing just sounds ridiculous. Doesn't our Government have anything better to do? Oh well,another Nanny State mess i guess.
 
Right wingers would clearly prefer that Americans buy artifical trees made in China than natural ones grown in America.
 
If some in the industry wanted to volunteer for higher taxes then why didn't they just work that out for themselves? Why did they have to impose it on all in the industry? This thing just sounds so fishy. A "volunteer" Tax that forces all to pay it just seems ludicrous. I call Nanny State Bullshot on this one for sure.
 

Typical tax fear mongering from the rightwing propaganda machine. Christmas tree growers face competition from artificial trees. They were wiling to pay extra taxes for a collective ad campaign on the merits and beauty of a real tree

Republicans fucked them over

Yea sure,those imaginary volunteer Taxes. What about those who don't want to pay this "volunteer" tax? Can they opt out? This thing just sounds ridiculous. Doesn't our Government have anything better to do? Oh well,another Nanny State mess i guess.

Typical conservative trying to take advantage of the sacrifice of others. Let everyone else pay for advertisements on the advantage of buying a fresh tree...let me benefit for free
 
you really can't make shit this stupid up. fee free to defend it; i could use a laugh

"President Obama’s Agriculture Department today announced that it will impose a new 15-cent charge on all fresh Christmas trees—the Christmas Tree Tax—to support a new Federal program to improve the image and marketing of Christmas trees.

In the Federal Register of November 8, 2011, Acting Administrator of Agricultural Marketing David R. Shipman announced that the Secretary of Agriculture will appoint a Christmas Tree Promotion Board. The purpose of the Board is to run a “program of promotion, research, evaluation, and information designed to strengthen the Christmas tree industry’s position in the marketplace; maintain and expend existing markets for Christmas trees; and to carry out programs, plans, and projects designed to provide maximum benefits to the Christmas tree industry” (7 CFR 1214.46(n)). And the program of “information” is to include efforts to “enhance the image of Christmas trees and the Christmas tree industry in the United States” (7 CFR 1214.10)."

because you know, without the government, no one would buy a christmas tree. :rofl:

Obama Couldn't Wait: His New Christmas Tree Tax

wtf?

Just another progressive way of advancing socialism with the blessing of Francis Fox Piven ( Cloward and Piven ) and Cass Sunstein. Kill private enterprise and business, the radical but slow way because Americans are too stupid to know what hits them, when it is done with subversion. Government will then take over.

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One reviewer wrote of this nasty book:

"As somone who's read Hayek's The Road to Serfdom The Road to Serfdom and understands one of its core arguements; that centralize/command economies by any name will inevitably become totaliterian, oppressive and violent because as the policies of authorities fail it will require ever increasing levels of force to gain compliance with those policies - this book is a frightening omen. That one of its authors, Cass Sunstein, serves the current administration should strike fear in the very core of any American who is concerned about freedom and personal liberty. Today it's a" Nudge," tomorrow a push and it's only a matter of time before William Ayer's desire to round up and exterminate 25 million people who he estimates will never comply comes to pass.

The only good thing about this book is that makes crystal clear the threat Cass Sunstein and the current administration pose should anyone care enough to read it."
 

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