obama's christmas tree tax

Typical tax fear mongering from the rightwing propaganda machine. Christmas tree growers face competition from artificial trees. They were wiling to pay extra taxes for a collective ad campaign on the merits and beauty of a real tree

Republicans fucked them over

Yea sure,those imaginary volunteer Taxes. What about those who don't want to pay this "volunteer" tax? Can they opt out? This thing just sounds ridiculous. Doesn't our Government have anything better to do? Oh well,another Nanny State mess i guess.

Typical conservative trying to take advantage of the sacrifice of others. Let everyone else pay for advertisements on the advantage of buying a fresh tree...let me benefit for free

Why does the Government have anything to do with it? And it all sounds very fishy anyway. There are no "volunteer" Taxes. That sounds like a silly fairy tale. Forcing all to pay a Tax is not a volunteer Tax. Make any sense to you? The Government needs to get a life. Just stay out of the Christmas Tree business period. Then they might have a chance of staying in business.
 
All i know after baling, delivery, set up and a tip for the 3 guys.... it was always close to 9 hundred bucks for our tree. (big tree) Another 15 cents would not have made that much difference at that point.

That being said a tax on trees is a totally fucked up thing.
 
Yea sure,those imaginary volunteer Taxes. What about those who don't want to pay this "volunteer" tax? Can they opt out? This thing just sounds ridiculous. Doesn't our Government have anything better to do? Oh well,another Nanny State mess i guess.

Typical conservative trying to take advantage of the sacrifice of others. Let everyone else pay for advertisements on the advantage of buying a fresh tree...let me benefit for free

Why does the Government have anything to do with it? And it all sounds very fishy anyway. There are no "volunteer" Taxes. That sounds like a silly fairy tale. Forcing all to pay a Tax is not a volunteer Tax. Make any sense to you? The Government needs to get a life. Just stay out of the Christmas Tree business period. Then they might have a chance of staying in business.

He's from Chicago, that's his mold - Chicago democrats would tax air if they could..

I'm not shocked at all by this bullshit..

The only concern for democrats here in Chicago is keeping their voting base satisfied and that costs money - Obamafuck has taken that ideology to Pennsylvania avenue..

Obama needs money to payoff his voting base so they will vote for him in 2012...

Its pretty simple...
 
This is a Department of Agriculture Tax. So it is a Government Tax and it obviously isn't voluntary. If it was just a fee charged by this association then it could be voluntary. But it's the Government levying a Tax instead. And i'm not even sure he has the authority to do this. This is definitely very strange. So i'm skeptical. And now he's backing off on it. Something is wrong with this picture.
 
All i know after baling, delivery, set up and a tip for the 3 guys.... it was always close to 9 hundred bucks for our tree. (big tree) Another 15 cents would not have made that much difference at that point.

That being said a tax on trees is a totally fucked up thing.

$900.00 for a tree? is it gold plated?

That must be a big tree... :lol:

I get by on a $40.00 tree and enjoy decorating it with my family. Having a little glögg and decorating a tree with those you love is just fantastic..
 
you really can't make shit this stupid up. fee free to defend it; i could use a laugh

"President Obama’s Agriculture Department today announced that it will impose a new 15-cent charge on all fresh Christmas trees—the Christmas Tree Tax—
to support a new Federal program to improve the image and marketing of Christmas trees.

In the Federal Register of November 8, 2011, Acting Administrator of Agricultural Marketing David R. Shipman announced that the Secretary of Agriculture will appoint a Christmas Tree Promotion Board. The purpose of the Board is to run a
“program of promotion, research, evaluation, and information designed to strengthen the Christmas tree industry’s position in the marketplace; maintain and expend existing markets for Christmas trees; and to carry out programs, plans, and projects designed to provide maximum benefits to the Christmas tree industry” (7 CFR 1214.46(n)). And the program of “information” is to include efforts to “enhance the image of Christmas trees and the Christmas tree industry in the United States” (7 CFR 1214.10)."

because you know, without the government, no one would buy a christmas tree.
:rofl:

Obama Couldn't Wait: His New Christmas Tree Tax


wtf?

So there really was a Grinch who stole taxed Christmas...
 
Next the Nanny Staters will be claiming that it's all for the children. Bad Big Government,go sit in the corner.
 
This is a Department of Agriculture Tax. So it is a Government Tax and it obviously isn't voluntary. If it was just a fee charged by this association then it could be voluntary. But it's the Government levying a Tax instead. And i'm not even sure he has the authority to do this. This is definitely very strange. So i'm skeptical. And now he's backing off on it. Something is wrong with this picture.

What is wrong is the Christmas Tree growers wanting to have a good season during hard economic times. That 15 cents.....yes 15 cents a tree would have helped to sell a lot more trees

Instead, the Conservative tax fear mongers had to screw everything up. Better to give up selling thousands of extra trees than to pay a tax of even 15 cents
 
They want to make sure that Christmas tree growers of America has a union representative.

This government is completely out of control :eusa_wall:
"President Obama’s Agriculture Department today announced that it will impose a new 15-cent charge on all fresh Christmas trees"

I'm not a Constitutional scholar like some around here, but I thought only the Congress could impose taxes.

Did someone amend the Constitution recently?
 
This is a Department of Agriculture Tax. So it is a Government Tax and it obviously isn't voluntary. If it was just a fee charged by this association then it could be voluntary. But it's the Government levying a Tax instead. And i'm not even sure he has the authority to do this. This is definitely very strange. So i'm skeptical. And now he's backing off on it. Something is wrong with this picture.

What is wrong is the Christmas Tree growers wanting to have a good season during hard economic times. That 15 cents.....yes 15 cents a tree would have helped to sell a lot more trees

Instead, the Conservative tax fear mongers had to screw everything up. Better to give up selling thousands of extra trees than to pay a tax of even 15 cents

Really?

How the fuck does that work??

That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard..
 
Seems this is targeting a religion with a new tax, as Christmas is a Christian holiday. Are they gonna add a tax to the paraphernalia of other religous celebrationis? A burka tax?

A tax that targets Christmas trees.
A tax that targets tanning beds.

Why does Obama have it out for white Christians?

Burka Tax-- Wear and Tear Law

He's dreaming of a white-out Christmas.."
 
you really can't make shit this stupid up. fee free to defend it; i could use a laugh

"President Obama’s Agriculture Department today announced that it will impose a new 15-cent charge on all fresh Christmas trees—the Christmas Tree Tax—to support a new Federal program to improve the image and marketing of Christmas trees.

In the Federal Register of November 8, 2011, Acting Administrator of Agricultural Marketing David R. Shipman announced that the Secretary of Agriculture will appoint a Christmas Tree Promotion Board. The purpose of the Board is to run a “program of promotion, research, evaluation, and information designed to strengthen the Christmas tree industry’s position in the marketplace; maintain and expend existing markets for Christmas trees; and to carry out programs, plans, and projects designed to provide maximum benefits to the Christmas tree industry” (7 CFR 1214.46(n)). And the program of “information” is to include efforts to “enhance the image of Christmas trees and the Christmas tree industry in the United States” (7 CFR 1214.10)."

because you know, without the government, no one would buy a christmas tree. :rofl:

Obama Couldn't Wait: His New Christmas Tree Tax

wtf?

People here in Maine can get a tax break for growing trees.
Our Christmas tree farms here have a lot of dead red pines. You pass them everywhere since the drought. Maybe if you all had more water than we, you could send some Christmas trees our way.
 
This is a Department of Agriculture Tax. So it is a Government Tax and it obviously isn't voluntary. If it was just a fee charged by this association then it could be voluntary. But it's the Government levying a Tax instead. And i'm not even sure he has the authority to do this. This is definitely very strange. So i'm skeptical. And now he's backing off on it. Something is wrong with this picture.

What is wrong is the Christmas Tree growers wanting to have a good season during hard economic times. That 15 cents.....yes 15 cents a tree would have helped to sell a lot more trees

Instead, the Conservative tax fear mongers had to screw everything up. Better to give up selling thousands of extra trees than to pay a tax of even 15 cents

Really?

How the fuck does that work??

That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard..

Got milk? Pork, the other white meat

Advertisement can help sell agricultural products. Christmas tree growers face competition from $49 WalMart specials made in China

They wanted the tax, not the Government...to help sell their product to Americans

Republicans had to screw it up
 
Hey, if Herman Cain were president, the tax on your Christmas tree would be 9%.

On a 30 dollar tree, that's 18 times a 15 cent fee.

Its 8% on a tree or roughly .36 cents...

On the bright side of that all this corporate harassing and 90% taxation socialist demand talk would go away...

The 9-9-9 plan is more practical than a flat tax...

A flat tax is nothing more than an 0-18-18 tax..

I support a flat tax but it needs a formula as does the 9-9-9 idea...
 
What is wrong is the Christmas Tree growers wanting to have a good season during hard economic times. That 15 cents.....yes 15 cents a tree would have helped to sell a lot more trees

Instead, the Conservative tax fear mongers had to screw everything up. Better to give up selling thousands of extra trees than to pay a tax of even 15 cents

Really?

How the fuck does that work??

That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard..

Got milk? Pork, the other white meat

Advertisement can help sell agricultural products. Christmas tree growers face competition from $49 WalMart specials made in China

They wanted the tax, not the Government...to help sell their product to Americans

Republicans had to screw it up

That makes no fucking sense whatsoever...
 
Unlike Christians, Atheists do whatever the hell they want.
Not just what their religion tells them to do.

I, as a Christian, am not doing what I want?

I hate to break it to you, but I WANT to be a Christian, or I would not be one.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

If you are not doing as the bible tell you to do then you are not by definition a Christian.

The majority of people need to be told what to do and what to think.
There's only one difference between a Christian and a non-Christian: belief that Jesus is Christ. It's that simple. Halleluia! :)
 

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