McCarthy approaches Biden debt ceiling talks with the economy — and his job — at stake

[peacefan]

hahaa it’s not. It’s not at all. Nobody is obligated to give you anything…while socialism clearly has a history of failure, your failure to work is not the fault of socialism or capitism…it’s just you being lazy

you don't know me, so don't act as if you do.
i work long hours very often (16+ on a single day is quite possible for me, when i take slightly too much coffee to stay productive during the day), followed by regular sabaticals in an omni-Theist kinda way.
i hear voices, which i know for sure not to be from my own brain, and i suffer from an irregular sleep rythm with occasional bouts of severe sleep deprivation which require treatment in a mental hospital.
so don't come to me talking about how i need to work harder. i work as hard as the next succesful guy, but it seems the rich have really cordoned off the social welfare class into ever more extreme poverty.

 

[peacefan]

Meh, were I McCarthy I'd walk into the meeting with a basketball, toss it to Chuckie, and say "the House did it's job, the ball is in your court" and walk out.

Once the Bill passed the House it should have been sent to the floor of the Senate for a vote. If it failed then the reconciliation process should have started......A fuckin' week ago!

McCarthy is not going to pull the Bill so the dems better get hot or they will face the consequences.

I believe that the is a Tater replacement move afoot within the MSM and they might not be willing to support the dems on this one.

we'll have to see what the media chooses, but it won't be to allow a default, i can guarantee you that much.
not even MSNBC will go *there*.

 

[peacefan]

i think Biden should get of his behind and do debates around an urgent current issue : that required debt ceiling raising.
that's right, with Republicans.
like a real democratic leader is supposed to do.
hiding in the basement?
shameless profiteering off the public.
together with their influence peddled family business schemes, i can't say i have a lot of respect for the Biden family at the moment.
face it together, i suggest to them. but face it. in the media. publicly.
and also face the fact that when you do that, you might lose your job.
but i'm sure they can keep the damage contained to that.
they got the support of the entire liberal MSM.

 

[22lcidw]

yeah, i know what the debt ceiling means.
i also know that Republicans and especially MAGA Republicans have a tendency to push the poor through austerity measures just so they can shuttle more money to the richest!

Progressives just passed legislation the last two years for trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars. There was little responsibility in that.

 

[struth]

you don't know me, so don't act as if you do.
i work long hours very often (16+ on a single day is quite possible for me, when i take slightly too much coffee to stay productive during the day), followed by regular sabaticals in an omni-Theist kinda way.
i hear voices, which i know for sure not to be from my own brain, and i suffer from an irregular sleep rythm with occasional bouts of severe sleep deprivation which require treatment in a mental hospital.
so don't come to me talking about how i need to work harder. i work as hard as the next succesful guy, but it seems the rich have really cordoned off the social welfare class into ever more extreme poverty.

Good for you....you would meet any work requirement.

But it's not the obligation of anyone, to take care of you.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

UBI is exactly what it portrays to be. a basic liveable income. nothing more than that.
you'd still have to work hard to make it into the ranks of the (super-)rich.

You can see with your own eyes what happens in the inner cities when people don’t work and live on what the politicians give them.
Why would you want more of that?
Try to come to conclusions based on facts not emotions.

 

[jotathought]

well, either the US tries UBI out first, or we here in Europe *will*.
i'll promise you that much.

Why would we try something that has never been successful? Is that the direction Democrats / liberals want to go?

 

[Godboy]

oh you got a superiority complex do you?
well then i got a nice concrete room for you over here.
just fly in to Amsterdam, i'll pick you up with a couple of friends from the airport.

Why would i go to your inferior nation?

 

[Resnic]

McCarthy approaches Biden debt ceiling talks with the economy — and his job — at stake

Speaker Kevin McCarthy faces a defining challenge: Can he can strike a debt ceiling deal with President Joe Biden without endangering his job?

Remote : Mon, 08 May 2023 21:03:52 GMT
Local : 2023-05-08(Monday) 23 : 03 : 52
Found via https://nicer.app/world-headlines

to be honest, i'm getting tired of the endless cycles of seeing the rich get richer at the expense of the poor.
the poor are suffering on all sides.

so instead of more austerity for the poor, MAGA Republicans, i really think it's time to tax the richest more.
as a personal note : you lead the world, Americans. your example to tax the rich more would serve as an example for all of your allies around 10 to 20 years down the road.
if you feel differently about this, then i'd like to see some public statements as to why you feel that way.

Ok, what happens when you tax the rich more? What about when the need for government to take more and more money increases? Do they tax them more and more?

"Tax the rich" is incredibly short sighted and incredibly dumb. It's a low hanging fruit.

If you tax the rich more do you honestly believe all our money problems magically vanish and everything becomes stable?

Our current trend follows right a long with the 100 ryear currency cycle. It has nothing to with no taxing the rich enough because a monetary system can only last so long under its own weight.

We’re at another turning point in the 100-year cycle of money – here’s what to do

Money has always moved in 100-year cycles. And we’re at another turning point now, says Dominic Frisby – money has gone from gold to government-backed paper, and now to blockchain technology. Here’s what that means for you.

moneyweek.com

I don't think you understand how currency works at all.

 

[Ralph Norton]

under pure capitalism, the rich man is already the provider. for his employees. for people in social welfare and elderly care.

and yet, capitalism has failed.
too much slavery.

it's time for UBI!

Demands for UBI, much like demands for reparations, is the battle cry of losers.

 

[OKTexas]

i can get myself a girlfriend with ease, despite my low income.
can you say the same?

and no thanks to the hard drugs. i stick to my legal to purchase weed and tobacco and coffee.

I'm not low income and my wife and I have been together for 47 years. So no, I can't say the same. Loser!

.

 

[struth]

i can get myself a girlfriend with ease, despite my low income.
can you say the same?

and no thanks to the hard drugs. i stick to my legal to purchase weed and tobacco and coffee.

are you really bragging about being poor and alone? hahah

 

[peacefan]

Progressives just passed legislation the last two years for trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars. There was little responsibility in that.

please prove that with links.

 

[peacefan]

You can see with your own eyes what happens in the inner cities when people don’t work and live on what the politicians give them.
Why would you want more of that?
Try to come to conclusions based on facts not emotions.

when emotions lead to facts and vice-versa, it's bloody hard to ignore the emotions.

 

[peacefan]

I'm not low income and my wife and I have been together for 47 years. So no, I can't say the same. Loser!

.

oh now i gotta make more money legally to beat you in the rat race?
I DON'T GO INTO RAT-RACES.

 

[peacefan]

are you really bragging about being poor and alone? hahah

i was responding to an insult.
now you Republican fanboys are teaming up like hyenas to take down a lion (me).

 

[peacefan]

Demands for UBI, much like demands for reparations, is the battle cry of losers.

okay, we'll just wait for that violent revolution then.
i'll get the popcorn ready and hope the microwave keeps working during the start of it.

 

[peacefan]

i'm done in this thread.
call me a loser all you want, i *know* i'm anything but a loser.

i'm not going to wait for the moderators to side with their main paying audience (the Republican fanboys) again, like happened recently.

 

[Stryder50]

you fanboys of the rich are the gullible idiots, not me or the ones supporting UBI.

You and the ones supporting UBI are just parasitic thieves.
Others will have to work more and harder so that more can be taken from them to give to you and your UBI fanboys.
Start here and try to get a grasp on the numbers and finance/economics presented.

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

Then, using that time machine function (upper right), you get some gauge on what your Democrat-socialist wealth redistributors(thieves) have done to run up this Nation's Deficit and Debt.
For example, 2008 when Barry Obummer became POTUS;

U.S. National Debt Clock 2008

www.usdebtclock.org

And 2016, just before he left;

U.S. National Debt Clock 2016

 

[OKTexas]

oh now i gotta make more money legally to beat you in the rat race?
I DON'T GO INTO RAT-RACES.

I don't either anymore, I'm retired, I do what I want, when I want. Spent about half my working life self employed, the other half in the military. So carry on loser, I won't be bumping your dumb ass thread again.

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